DeAndre Williams in transfer mode

Lil Spears

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Here's the originally post about him and how long were have been interested in him. So its been in the works for awhile.. He's a very good player just had some bad luck with injury.
 

drbubba

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This is sort of encouraging. Now we've got so many good possibilities and just need one big man. We can throw back 1 or 2 if our boat gets full. Sarr and/or Anselem would be fine. A Banchero reclass or 21 commitment and maybe even Cisse or Marker. So Williams could be plan C or D. AND WE ALREADY HAVE THE #1 class coming in!
 
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I posted about this guy last month, but most people scoffed at it. I guess because he was from EU, but everything I have read on him it seems people think he has a good shot at becoming a PRO. If he goods enough to make it than he's good enough to help us. He looks like a solid player outside of the injuries. EU lost their coach and then this guy their best player so it explains their meltdown a little better.

We have 9 guys for 2020 right now so regardless I think we need 2 more guys and both need to be frontcourt players, bigs. Guys get hurt, foul trouble and you just don't see too many 5's play 40 minutes a game in college. I think we could use a guy like Williams, Maker, or whoever and a proven identity like Sarr. The problem is can we convince 2 guys to come when it has been such a struggle to get one. Williams would be a pretty good story. To go from upsetting us to joining us. Although I will admit I don't care to hear Evansville a thousand times next season like we did this season.
 
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bucsrule8872

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Sorry folks, a coaching change is not an automatic waiver of the sit out rule.

True.

A lot of people on here are thinking it’s a home run and had me convinced of it until I did a little digging.

It is not a guaranteed waiver.
 

kl40504_rivals

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Sorry folks, a coaching change is not an automatic waiver of the sit out rule.
Not automatic but does help. Northern Kentucky coach last year left to go to Cincy. He had a player follow him to Cincinnati and was given a waiver by the NCAA to play immediately for Cincinnati. So it sure doesn't hurt.
 
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bucsrule8872

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Not automatic but does help. Northern Kentucky coach last year left to go to Cincy. He had a player follow him to Cincinnati and was given a waiver by the NCAA to play immediately for Cincinnati. So it sure doesn't hurt.

But Sarr is not following his coach to another school like Vogt did.

That was a little bit different situation.
 

kl40504_rivals

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But Sarr is not following his coach to another school like Vogt did.

That was a little bit different situation.
I agree but why would the NCAA approve a player following his coach? That sets a bad precedent. Makes me feel they are much more lenient with approving waivers.
 

Trinity45

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He might be someone we look at. Would have 2 years left also. Sure yall remember him from Evansville. He's a very solid player.
So now UK is needing low level D-1 players?? Why not just recruit a few of them and have them for 4 years.
 

Los Gatos

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I agree but why would the NCAA approve a player following his coach? That sets a bad precedent. Makes me feel they are much more lenient with approving waivers.
This is correct. The guidelines for waivers changed about 18 months ago although almost all of us were not aware of the change until later. This set off the Fields/Martell football waivers they a lot of us questioned. They didn't make sense under the old guidelines, did (to some degree) under the new ones. This change also explains why the Green/Baker (UK bb) waivers were granted.

Given what we know, my guess is the Evansville player waiver will be granted, but will be surprised if the Wake player request is granted. The key question in both cases is will the original school support the transfer. I expect UK coaches has already ask Evansville if they will support the waiver.
 
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kl40504_rivals

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This is correct. The guidelines for waivers changed about 18 months ago although almost all of us were not aware of the change until later. This set off the Fields/Martell football waivers they a lot of us questioned. They didn't make sense under the old guidelines, did (to some degree) under the new ones. This change also explains why the Green/Baker (UK bb) waivers were granted.

Given what we know, my guess is the Evansville player waiver will be granted, but will be surprised if the Wake player request is granted. The key question in both cases is will the original school support the transfer. I expect UK coaches has already ask Evansville if they will support the waiver.
Steve Forbes will support the transfer and waiver if Sarrs decides to transfer.
 

seccats04

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So now UK is needing low level D-1 players?? Why not just recruit a few of them and have them for 4 years.
Because apparently those guys won't stick around and develop or at least that's how it's been under Cal. Now we are recruiting transfers which is probably a good strategy. Most of these guys are proven on the college level and are not likely to transfer again. I like it.
 

kl40504_rivals

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Because apparently those guys won't stick around and develop or at least that's how it's been under Cal. Now we are recruiting transfers which is probably a good strategy. Most of these guys are proven on the college level and are not likely to transfer again. I like it.
I like it also.
 
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Lil Spears

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So now UK is needing low level D-1 players?? Why not just recruit a few of them and have them for 4 years.
Not sure this guy is a low level player. He's on the NBA radar as well . You need solid players who can perform and he has showed that. Not everyone 4 year player coming in as a recruit can perform at a high level so thats why you persue someone that has.
 

CatsPaws270

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Yes he's low level D1, yes he's injury prone. But his FG, 3PFG and FT percentages say he has a damn fine stroke. I say take him.
Baylor, Houston, SMU, & WKU all offered him out of high school. I read in high school he was invited to the NBA top 100 camp during a summer. Talent wise, he's good enough to play at any level.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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I like the idea of adding perhaps two transfers per year over the option of adding freshmen like Juzang/Baker/Green/SKJ who will be fighting for their lives early on.

The transfer (non grad transfer but regular route) gives you two years minimum - one year as a practice player and learning the system, and one year as a rotation player.

I like the idea of having Williams and Toppin waiting in the wings if it all works out.
The current structure is way too unpredictable and this might solidify the system a bit.
 

Bill Withers

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I like the idea of adding perhaps two transfers per year over the option of adding freshmen like Juzang/Baker/Green/SKJ who will be fighting for their lives early on.

The transfer (non grad transfer but regular route) gives you two years minimum - one year as a practice player and learning the system, and one year as a rotation player.

I like the idea of having Williams and Toppin waiting in the wings if it all works out.
The current structure is way too unpredictable and this might solidify the system a bit.
I can definitely see a shift in Cal's philosophy. We may actually have guys stay and develop. I'm all for it. Still try to get the elite guys, but not as much emphasis on everyone is a pro.
 

FrankUnderwood

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This is sort of encouraging. Now we've got so many good possibilities and just need one big man. We can throw back 1 or 2 if our boat gets full. Sarr and/or Anselem would be fine. A Banchero reclass or 21 commitment and maybe even Cisse or Marker. So Williams could be plan C or D. AND WE ALREADY HAVE THE #1 class coming in!


I think Banchero as explicitly stated numerous times he will absolutely not reclassify.