Dear Jimmy Dykes:

[MSUCostanza]

Shut the 17 up about your 1-12 plan. Really, we get it. Next time the East is a little down, and the West has more good teams, we'll remember what you said.

By the way, seems like State won 4 games in 4 days, and beat Tennessee in the Final last year and fatigue wasn't an issue for us. So why is it for UT today?

 

[dawgatUSM]

This is atrocious. I used to like the guy, but he's just turned into being flat out annoying.

 

[War Machine Dawg]

Then his ONLY point about Stands being King of the West will be gone. Not that it really matters, since the Selection Committee proves on an annual basis they don't give a **** about our divisions. And they'll prove it aGAIN this season when the King of the West sits at home after winning the division.

 

[mstateglfr]

Shut the 17 up about your 1-12 plan. Really, we get it. Next time the East is a little down, and the West has more good teams, we'll remember what you said.

By the way, seems like State won 4 games in 4 days, and beat Tennessee in the Final last year and fatigue wasn't an issue for us. So why is it for UT today?

Dykes is annoying, and he for sure repeats his 1-12 plan too much...especially in the last week, but i dont disagree with him totally.

I think there should be divisions for regular season, but for the conference tournament it should be the top 4 teams regardless of division get a buy. If they all come out of 1 division, where they have to play each other 2 times each and STILL have the best overall conference records, well then that shows even more reason for them to get a buy in the first round.

Regular season can stay divided since thats how teams are scheduled. It doesnt make much sense to me for MSU to play its division twice, Florida to play its division twice, and lump both teams into one large standing. They dont play everyone in the standings equally, so the standings dont make much sense lumped together.
The Big12 does this and i dont get it.

 

[missouridawg]

Costanza will serve you with his keyboard. He's fierce like that...

 

[MSUCostanza]

Jesus Christ, there are some bitches on this board.

My beef has nothing to do with Stansbury. It's the fact that this "plan" is never mentioned unless one of the big boys is inconvenienced by having to play an extra game. Poor Tennessee. Like I said, we played an extra game last year and still managed to beat 3-game-playing Tennessee in the Final. Georgia won 4 games in 3 days during the Tornado Tourney. If UT wanted to have a day off, they should've beaten Vandy in Knoxville and not lost at Georgia. Then they would've finished 2nd instead of Vandy. Dykes needs to shut the 17 up.

And another thing, and another reason why I hate a lot of our fans, is this constant ridicule of Stansbury as being "King of the West". You realize that in 19 seasons of divisional play in all sports, we've only won TWO other division titles in ANYTHING?? Women's soccer and football. That's it. And yet our stupid fans don't understand how rare it is for us to be competitive in anything.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

I don't think it's fair in the NBA that the division winner gets the 1 2 or 3 seeds even though their record may suck. I know it's not NCAA but it's the same argument. I want to say the Big 12 does theirs 1-12.

 

[MSUArrowCS]

but I definitely don't agree with it being an excuse for UT getting rolled by 30. Plenty of really bad teams have made the four-game run in the SEC tourney.

 

[Uncle Leo]

I think there should be divisions for regular season, but for the conference tournament it should be the top 4 teams regardless of division get a buy. If they all come out of 1 division, where they have to play each other 2 times each and STILL have the best overall conference records, well then that shows even more reason for them to get a buy in the first round.

Regular season can stay divided since thats how teams are scheduled. It doesnt make much sense to me for MSU to play its division twice, Florida to play its division twice, and lump both teams into one large standing. They dont play everyone in the standings equally, so the standings dont make much sense lumped together.
The Big12 does this and i dont get it.

I haven't heard Dykes' 1-12 plan, but...

If you're going to seed teams 1-12 for the tournament, then there's no real reason to separate teams into divisions for the regular season because it would be meaningless.

But I would have no problem with seeding 1-12.It appears the Big12 schedules with divisions in mind (play "divisional" opponents twice and all others once), but stillseeds 1-12. I checked a team from each division and that's the case, anyway. But that may be coincidence. I doubt it. If you're going to lump everybody together, it doesn't make sense to have the same schedule every year. Your scheduleshould rotatewho you play twice. It could be a football-type system where you have permanent opponents you play twice,with the others rotating on and off.That would seem to be more fair since there are too many teams to play everybody twice.

 

[Indndawg]

ha hah ku

 

[mstateglfr]

I think there should be divisions for regular season, but for the conference tournament it should be the top 4 teams regardless of division get a buy. If they all come out of 1 division, where they have to play each other 2 times each and STILL have the best overall conference records, well then that shows even more reason for them to get a buy in the first round.

Regular season can stay divided since thats how teams are scheduled. It doesnt make much sense to me for MSU to play its division twice, Florida to play its division twice, and lump both teams into one large standing. They dont play everyone in the standings equally, so the standings dont make much sense lumped together.
The Big12 does this and i dont get it.

I haven't heard Dykes' 1-12 plan, but...

If you're going to seed teams 1-12 for the tournament, then there's no real reason to separate teams into divisions for the regular season because it would be meaningless.

But I would have no problem with seeding 1-12.It appears the Big12 schedules with divisions in mind (play "divisional" opponents twice and all others once), but stillseeds 1-12. I checked a team from each division and that's the case, anyway. But that may be coincidence. I doubt it. <font size="5">If you're going to lump everybody together, it doesn't make sense to have the same schedule every year. Your scheduleshould rotatewho you play twice.</font> It could be a football-type system where you have permanent opponents you play twice,with the others rotating on and off.That would seem to be more fair since there are too many teams to play everybody twice.

Exactly. And since this doesnt happen, it doesnt make sense to get rid of the divisions during the regular season. The Big12schedules based on N and S divisions, like in football.

 

[1MSUDawgFan]

By all objective metrics I can think of, the West was better than the East. 3 of the final 4 in the SEC tourney, tournament champions, overall SEC champ, better overall head to head record, etc. Yet, somehow the East was perceived by many as being the better division. When I ask some of my coworkers why they think that the East was better, they only give me subjective answers. Yet last year, I didn't hear anything about the 1-12 plan. As a matter of fact, this is the first year that I have heard the 1-12 plan mentioned. And in all fairness, this year the East was FAR better than the West, so it was exagerrated a little, but most years, it's alot closer than it was this year.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

Not that it really matters, since the Selection Committee proves on an annual basis they don't give a **** about our divisions. And they'll prove it aGAIN this season when the King of the West sits at home after winning the division.

Jimmy Dykes said any divisional winner of a conference automatically goes up on the selection committe board.

That means Miss. State gets the committee's attention & consideration just for winning the SECW. As far as the 1-12 thing...it's ********.

To think a divisional winner might be seeded low because of some "1-12" crap is ridiculous.

 

[War Machine Dawg]

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[RonnyAtmosphere]

...selection process, embarrass yourself by posting utter ********, then attack me for being an idiot.


Please don't tell me you have a degree from Miss. State. Because if you do, you ripped your daddy off for a whole shitload of money.

 

[War Machine Dawg]

doesn't mean they don't immediately laugh your resume out of the room and relegate you to the NIT. And that is damn well what would have happened had we not won yesterday & today. And we still might not make it in if UK blows us out tomorrow. But I wouldn't understand you to understand that.

 

[dogfan96]

you can have a non-division winner in the top 3.. the only thing winning your division guarantees is a top 4 seed... and homecourt advantage is always determined by the better record, regardless of seeding

 

[615dawg]

Using Jummy Dykes 1-12 proposition (which I agree with), last year would have looked like this.

1 LSU
2 Tennessee
3 South Carolina
4 Auburn
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5 Mississippi State
6 Florida
7 Vanderbilt
8 Kentucky
9 Alabama
10 Ole Miss
11 Georgia
12 Arkansas

our road would have been Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Tennessee if the seeds held. Instead, our road was Georgia, South Carolina, LSU, Tennessee. We had a tougher road in the current system than we would have had.

This year, the 1-12 system would have been:
1 Kentucky
2 Vanderbilt
3 Tennessee
4 Florida
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5 Mississippi State
6 Ole Miss
7 Arkansas
8 Alabama
9 South Carolina
10 Auburn
11 Georgia
12 LSU