Dear Renardo Sidney, from Dick Vitale
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who has no idea that Elgin Bailey started the fight.
And since when has the NBA had a problem letting thugs into the league?
And since when has the NBA had a problem letting thugs into the league?
He hasn't been a prima donna since being here?
Every thing Vitale said was correct. Yeah, it's somewhat on Stans to get him in line. But at some point Sidney has to realize it's up to him to grow up and that is what Vitale is saying.
And as for the thugs in the NBA, that's an old stereotype that has nothing to do with what Vitale was talking about.
Every thing Vitale said was correct. Yeah, it's somewhat on Stans to get him in line. But at some point Sidney has to realize it's up to him to grow up and that is what Vitale is saying.
And as for the thugs in the NBA, that's an old stereotype that has nothing to do with what Vitale was talking about.
Normally I agree with about everything you say on here. Very much respect your insight, but I'm not seeing it on Sidney.
You defend him and discount Vitale's article because Bailey "started the fight." Like that erases all the negative Sidney has brought with him.
Name me one thing he's done right. One thing.
He's out-of-shape (inexcusable). He's been a sideshow distraction ever since his name hasbeen associated with MSU. He's been in 3 publicized fights with teammates. One televised. Rumor has it that his effort is not optimal (which would be consistent with his current state of shape). He blows up reporters with arrogant banter that he hasn't even begun to back up with play. He mouths off on twitter.
Now, I'll admit that Kodi had similar problems in the past. And I'll admit that Sidney, Kodi, and Bost don't have 10 brain cells between them. As a season ticket holder, it pains me to say that I don't like this team. Their attitudes suck. But Sidney is the worst and I see no defense for him.
You defend him and discount Vitale's article because Bailey "started the fight." Like that erases all the negative Sidney has brought with him.
Name me one thing he's done right. One thing.
He's out-of-shape (inexcusable). He's been a sideshow distraction ever since his name hasbeen associated with MSU. He's been in 3 publicized fights with teammates. One televised. Rumor has it that his effort is not optimal (which would be consistent with his current state of shape). He blows up reporters with arrogant banter that he hasn't even begun to back up with play. He mouths off on twitter.
Now, I'll admit that Kodi had similar problems in the past. And I'll admit that Sidney, Kodi, and Bost don't have 10 brain cells between them. As a season ticket holder, it pains me to say that I don't like this team. Their attitudes suck. But Sidney is the worst and I see no defense for him.
maroonmania said:
Now granted, I was not there and do not know anyone first hand that actually witnessed the ENTIRE event but my guess is there was a bit of smack talk back and forth before the first punch was thrown. I am not saying that Sidney should have just accepted a punch and done nothing but I am saying that before it got to the point of punches being thrown, the smartest thing would have been to walk away or take it to a private place that was not in the middle of a basketball arena with TV cameras around.
Maybe you excuse it if he was not fighting two days prior in practice but he was and is just as guilty as Bailey.
both players have already been suspended for a MINIMUM of 2 games plus been sent home early from the Hawaii trip. However, yes, the circumstances of who did what in this incident should be taken HEAVILY into account when you are considering prolonged suspensions or possibly even kicking someone off the team.
I think everyone deserves a second chance.... but I think Sidney is on his 3rd or 4th, and I am not for that. I felt the same way when TSUN decided to take Masoli, and to some extent I feel the same way aboutCam Newton..... It's just time for us to stop making excuses for this kid.
maroonmania said:
What you are suggesting should be the case the first time you get into a fight with your team mate. After being suspended for a game and told that fighting will not be accepted, you go out and get into another fight. Regardless of who started it, you lost the right to claim innocence after the first one.
How many fights have you seen where someone is sitting in a seat and just jumps up and punches someone? My guess is zero. I still stand by my point that before any punches were thrown, these two dipshits were jawing back and forth with each other. Sidney, in my opinion, should have walked away and addressed his problem with Bailey in a more private atmosphere. Especially since he had just been told that fighting with his team mates would not be tolerated. But no, the dumb *** stood there and ran his fat mouth, and got into a brawl that ended up on national television and ended up in the media for days.
I don't understand any fan of our university making excuses or defending this guy. What exactly has he done that warrants anyone's forgiveness?
VinceVega70 said:
And don't get me wrong, I'm not totally defending Sidney here, because he was wrong to fight back. There is no doubt about that.
I was more or less criticizing Vitale rather than defending Sidney for forming an opinion that appears to me to be based on reaction without all of the facts and then trying to make it sound like the NBA is only looking for angels because it does seem to me that at the very least Sidney did not start this incident. Vitale seems to make it look like Renardo was looking for a fight, and I don't believe that was the case.
And Sidney did lead us in scoring the game before he was suspended and his average per game would be second on the team right now. That doesn't mean he isn't a disappointment, but he has done a few- very few- things right since he has come back.
I just want Vitale to do some more research and tell both sides of the story before he goes spouting off.
Here's the money quote on that:
http://www.sportsmediawat...thugs-and-heres-rap.html
The least of Sidney's problems is assimilating to the NBA's thug culture: Sidney's big problem is that he will get his *** handed to him by the basketball talent in the NBA.
If Sidney gets worn out by Belhaven, imagine how he will fare against the Raptors, Nuggets & Hornets.
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</div><div>im not 100% sure he needs to keep playing basketball but i am 100% sure he needs a good counselor for the next few years</div><div>
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</div><div>but i am not sure i have seen a more obvious case of a young man in such a serious need of a mentor and counselor. the dude is lost...</div><div>
</div><div>im not 100% sure he needs to keep playing basketball but i am 100% sure he needs a good counselor for the next few years</div><div>
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