Dear Ron Polk

windcrysmary

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with all the advantages a program like MSU has, you have left us with talent at the level of the Middle Teneessee State's of the world.... there is no excuse for that at all... nobody associated with your fnal stint should have been considered to take over...

you left a turd in the corner for us to remember you by...

now THAT sir is like getting punched in the stomach...
 

SLUdog

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the only amazing thing is how we won the SECT and also went to the CWS during his second stint.
 

Todd4State

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SLUdog said:
the only amazing thing is how we won the SECT and also went to the CWS during his second stint.

the 2005 SEC Tournament was more remarkable than winning the SR. We had no pitching, no hitting, no power, any speed we had we didn't take advantage of, and we were average defensively on a wooly day. I've never seen anything like it. I still can't explain it. It defied logic. It would be like the Pirates winning the World Series had they won last year. Hell, we beat Lane freaking Mestapey, who had owned us the previous six seasons- with something like 22 singles. I've never heard of that. Then Todd Doolittle pitched the game of his life against USC- which was the first time all year that Alan Johnson and Doolittle had back to back quality starts. Then Butts hits a wicked chopper off of Chase Headley of UT. Finally, Bianco decided to pitch a tired Holliman as opposed to Stephen Head, which I thought was a break for us to. We never could hit Head, and when he came in relief, we still couldn't. If Bianco starts Head, I think they would have won the thing.

At least in 2007, we had some talent- Easley was a supp. first round pick, Mitch Moreland, Brandon Turner, Aaron Weatherford are all guys that have a chance to possibly make it to the Big Leagues. We also had Jeffrey Rea, who was a tremendous natural hitter. Oh, and Conner Powers was/is a good player who gave us some power.
 

maroonmania

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of destroying what he built before he left than even Jackie did. At least Jackie had extenuating circumstances fighting the NCAA and personal tragedies. Polk's problem was primarily his own arrogance and complacency although I'm sure he would say the NCAA rule changes did him in.
 

State82

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Polk left his program in just as bad a shape as Jackie left his. Croom inherited no worse of a mess than Cohen has and Cohen has inherited about the same charlie foxtrot that Mullen has stepped into. The whole <17>ing mess makes me sick just to think about it. I really appreciate Bacardi in times like this.
 

Todd4State

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that he left the program in "nice" shape. I don't think he would admit that the program had gone down. That would be admitting that he was wrong. I do think you are right that he would blame the NCAA at least indirectly. He would reason that Georgia, Tennessee, Vandy, and LSU are all good because of lottery scholarships and that Ole Miss is good because of Lucky Day. I mean, as much as 18 year olds want to play for an eccentric old guy because he IS Ron Polk, it's hard to compete with unlimited funds from these other states, right?

I bet if you asked him about our struggles with the bullpen, he would say it is because Cohen yells at them too much, puts too much pressure on them, and he pulls his starters out too soon.

But to me, worst of all, is there are some people who saw this happening years ago back when we hired Polk, and yet it felt hopeless because no one was willing to demand accountability from Polk. Our fans administration allowed Polk to destroy the program. If I was the AD, I would have fired him after 2004. Seriously. If we didn't have Maholm shutting people down every Fri night, I think this situation would have been more apparent. We had a recruiting class with zero Mississippians- the year Stephen Head was a senior- and all the players were guys like Andy Wilson and Trent Hill. That was a red flag to me, right there. Ironically, early in Polk II's career, people used to rail "wait till he gets his guys in here and McMahon's guys out", and yet Polk was winning primarily because of McMahon's players. I thought Ole Miss getting better would force the issue, but to my dismay, our fans just entered some delusional alternate world of denial which should only be reserved for One Flew over the KooKoo's Nest. It was always, "Well, at least we're classier", whatever the hell that means, or "This is a one year deal for Ole Miss" seven years in a row.
 

Todd4State

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at least Cohen is trying to win with Polk's guys instead of coming in and running everyone off on day one.

The biggest problem I see with the baseball team right now is that while I think they talk a good game about doing what Cohen wants to do, and while I think that they are at least trying to do what Cohen wants to do, I just don't think that they want to win bad enough. Don't get me wrong, I do think that they want to win, but it's the lengths that they are willing to go to to get the win.

I hate to say this, but I think a lot of our players just like playing for Mississippi State and the perks that go along with it rather than winning. I think some of them are like "What the Hell? I got two more years, and this is better than Jonesboro."

What I'm saying is, are the really willing to take that extra base? Are they willing to run over the catcher to score the run? Are they willing to sacrifice theirself by taking a walk, or getting a bunt down? Are the pitchers willing to throw 150 pitches if the team needs them to do that? Are they willing to dive for the ball on defense, or do they just let it drop in front of them? The answer to most of these questions for most of these players is no.

They need to pop in a video of the Cardinals/Cubs game from last night. The game was tied at three, and Albert Pujols was on first. What does Pujols do? Stay there? No. He steals second, gets the Cardinals out of a double play possibility, gets in scoring position, and then guess what happens next? Base hit, winning run scores because Pujols was willing to steal the base whereas had he not, he only gets to second, and then it's up to someone else to try to drive the run in.

I certainly don't expect our players to be Albert Pujols. But I do expect them to do the little things it takes to win.
 

dawgoneyall

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much less talent than he inherited.

Jackie left plenty of talent. True they were far too many dickheads but they were dickheads others wanted.

The football team just got into a cluster17. That's football.

Polk simple let the talent deteriorate due to him becoming a crazy, insane nut. And a crazy, insane nut he is.

I wish Cohen would stop sucking up to Polk (as he did in the pregame interview today). Just let the insane bastard become a bad memory. A seldom remembered bad memory.

Love and peace.
 

maroonmania

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he was clueless as a coach for the most part other than he got most of his players to give a pretty decent effort most of the time. Jackie and Ron both at least built winning programs, Sly never built anything but a nice bank account for himself.
 

skydawg1

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What I'm saying is, are the really willing to take that extra base? Are they willing to run over the catcher to score the run? Are they willing to sacrifice theirself by taking a walk, or getting a bunt down? Are the pitchers willing to throw 150 pitches if the team needs them to do that? Are they willing to dive for the ball on defense, or do they just let it drop in front of them?
Also...... Are they willing to swing at that 3rd strike, or just be content to let it fall right in there?
 

Todd4State

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To me, that is just not knowing what the strike zone is, and not knowing to protect the plate.

I think a lot of that is from trying to work the count all those years. Old habits are hard to break. And yes, a lot of that is talent.
 

TBonewannabe

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now after Croom, we might not have even one person drafted. Croom lowered our overall talent level whereas O raised UM's talent.