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slickdawg

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let me offer you a clue - Al Borges was NOT a viable option in any way.

The WCO WILL NOT WORK IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL

After Auburn hired Borges to run the WCO, their offensive statistics went down every year until they were in the bottom 1/5th of I-A football. He got fired and Tubs halfway committed to the spread offense.

Dumping McCorvey for Borges was not an option, the WCO philosophy WILL NEVER WORK in college football regardless of who is coaching it.

That is why the powers above sent you packing. I suspect if you had sincerely talked with the AD about the OC position and you were planning a new philosophy for offense, you would still be the head coach.

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GloryDawg

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Was Woody a West Coast Offense guy befor coming to State? If not what the heck was Croom thinking?
 

slickdawg

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Big D said:
Was Woody a West Coast Offense guy befor coming to State? If not what the heck was Croom thinking?
No. The boss gave him the Green Bay playbook and said "this is it".
 

Todd4State

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the WCO started out in college. WAY back in the 30's at Ohio State.

College teams have actually run both variations of the WCO successfully- San Diego State, Stanford, BYU, UCLA, and even Auburn went 13-0 with it.

The WCO may not have ever worked at MSU, but one BIG reason it didn't work is because we had coaches that didn't know what they were doing. And as I have said, they were breaking WCO rule #1 by trying to make it a power running offense. That would be like a flexbone team saying that they are not going to run the triple option and be a predominately pass first team.

Very similar to Tony Franklin trying to run the spread at Auburn. The spread obviously works in college, but if you have someone that doesn't know what they are doing, that offense is doomed from the get go.
 

RaiderDawg24

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and that was Croom's biggest problem. He was trying to force some variation of the WCO onto this team whether he had recruited the personnel to do it or not. Bringing in Borges wasn't going to chance anything. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, then expecting different results. Trying his system with the players he recruited was just that - insane.

It is going to be interesting to see what Lane Kiffin's WCO will do at UT.
 

lannsd

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Big D said:
Was Woody a West Coast Offense guy befor coming to State? If not what the heck was Croom thinking?
No. He had never run it before in his life. To be honest, Croom should have been fired the second he made that hire.

It would be the equivalent of Rich Rodriguez hiring Norm Chow and telling him to run the spread option. Nobody else in the country would have put up with that crap but Templeton and MSU.

And I will tell you exactly what he was thinking. He cared more about giving his buddy getting a cushy job than trying to improve the football team. This is why it pisses me off so much when I hear people say "He did the best he could, he just wasn't head coach material." B.S. Croom did NOT do the best he could. If he was he would have hired a OC based on qualifications not friendship. Barring that he would have at least fired his friend at some point. Again didn't happen. Croom was an arrogant, selfish man who cared only about himself and his buddies. That is what he was thinking.