Designated "Bad Guy" within an organization.

[SoFL Husker]

Aka a-hole.

My Dad thought it was necessary. I didn't get it, but see the benefit within certain industries/organizations. Here are some positives...

1. Fear. You don't want the a-hole coming around your cubicle. Lose status/pay/advancement/job.

2. Accountability. Make a mistake, a-hole is going you know where to do you know what.

3. Effort. Wanna slack off??? A-hole emerges to insist you get the job done now and right.

Riley needs a designated Bad Guy, IMO

GBR

 

[otismotis08]

Should have kept Bo around I guess. He and MR together. Peas and carrots.

 

[bschne2]

Couldn't disagree more. That old IBM mentality of scare them into working hard has been a proven failure over time.

 

[Hard4Corn]

Aka a-hole.

My Dad thought it was necessary. I didn't get it, but see the benefit within certain industries/organizations. Here are some positives...

1. Fear. You don't want the a-hole coming around your cubicle. Lose status/pay/advancement/job.

2. Accountability. Make a mistake, a-hole is going you know where to do you know what.

3. Effort. Wanna slack off??? A-hole emerges to insist you get the job done now and right.

Riley needs a designated Bad Guy, IMO

GBR[/QUOTE
I agree but, I don't think the a-hole can be the leader. I think it needs to be one of his lieutenants. In this case I think maybe Billy Devaney is supposed to fill that role.

 

[SoFL Husker]

Couldn't disagree more. That old IBM mentality of scare them into working hard has been a proven failure over time.

So Nick Saban is a choir boy? That guy will bench a kid within seconds of a boneheaded mistake.

 

[kikdakan]

So Nick Saban is a choir boy? That guy will bench a kid within seconds of a boneheaded mistake.

i would say Saban is awarded the luxury of doing that at Alabama---if you know what i mean.

 

[SoFL Husker]

i would say Saban is awarded the luxury of doing that at Alabama.

Why? Because it doesn't work, or it does, in CFB??? What luxury are you referring to???

Again, I didn't agree with my Dad then but I do see the benefit within certain industries/organizations into my mid-40s.

In the NFL $$$ and job security keep all players honest. CFB totally different animal. These are kids.

IBM assumes a very intellectual and mentally talented workforce. Some of these kids can't spell workforce.

GBR

 

[NikkiSixx_rivals269993]

To the OP, I think it actually works wonders.. it's basically one half of the magic formula.

If you want a certain type of behavior, you will be much more effective using both the carrot and the stick.

It's just like good cop & bad cop.

 

[cHUCK001]

i would say Saban is awarded the luxury of doing that at Alabama---if you know what i mean.

He put himself in a position to earn that luxury.

 

[cHUCK001]

Aka a-hole.

My Dad thought it was necessary. I didn't get it, but see the benefit within certain industries/organizations. Here are some positives...

1. Fear. You don't want the a-hole coming around your cubicle. Lose status/pay/advancement/job.

2. Accountability. Make a mistake, a-hole is going you know where to do you know what.

3. Effort. Wanna slack off??? A-hole emerges to insist you get the job done now and right.

Riley needs a designated Bad Guy, IMO

GBR

It worked quite well when we were winning championships. From the administration and coaches down to the players.

 

[CC_Lemming]

So Nick Saban is a choir boy? That guy will bench a kid within seconds of a boneheaded mistake.

And Saban has clout whereas Pelini did not and neither does anyone on the current staff. Know what happens when you get on a player's *** and don't have the credentials to back it up? The player replies on national television, and I quote, "I'm not your ****ing dog" - Daimion Stafford.

 

[SoFL Husker]

And Saban has clout whereas Pelini did not and neither does anyone on the current staff. Know what happens when you get on a player's *** and don't have the credentials to back it up? The player replies on national television, and I quote, "I'm not your ****ing dog" - Daimion Stafford.

I would say Bo took it too far. Like TMart. Pants piss. Other examples.

It's a fine line, I agree.

Interesting to see Saban praise his team after big losses too. Especially early in the year...

 

[Solana Beach Husker]

Balance is key...you need men who are intelligent and treat people with kindness and use data driven methods for motivation. But in our culture you also need bruisers, some boys grow up in situations where they are only motivated by aggression, belittlement, and anger. One reason I think Bo was so loved by his players was his players thought the anger and lack of control meant he cared for them. More aloof coaches like Riley and Callahan can come off as soft and manipulative...anger can have the appearance of purpose and care. Although I think it is just stems from selfishness and competitiveness, and realization, as a coach, you are responsible for your players faults. I grew up around coaches, spent most of my life around them, and lived with one for a while. I think they are pretty scummy overall, there is always a conflict interest when winning and competitiveness is a top priority. Building men and providing good leadership has to come second.