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lawdawg02

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that stansbury spent the ENTIRE time talking to the other assistants? the cameras showed our players just sitting there, like they were in a daze, waiting for the coaches to talk to them. the horn sounded, and stans had yet to talk to our players. he had to burn another timeout just to put in a "play". the first was a full timeout, the second was a 30-second timeout.

i've noticed this phenomenon before, but never to the point of having to burn another timeout. ridiculous.
 
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lawdawg02

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that stansbury spent the ENTIRE time talking to the other assistants? the cameras showed our players just sitting there, like they were in a daze, waiting for the coaches to talk to them. the horn sounded, and stans had yet to talk to our players. he had to burn another timeout just to put in a "play". the first was a full timeout, the second was a 30-second timeout.

i've noticed this phenomenon before, but never to the point of having to burn another timeout. ridiculous.
 
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He didnt even acknowledge that the players were there. You would think with all the young players that he would actually coach them and not huddle with the boys on how to get RandyStewart the ball.
 
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awalkerdog

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the game should have never made it to overtime. Since we are Mstate, I knew we were beat when he missed the dunk.</p>
 
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a. that dunk was extremely difficult

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b. it was off a rebound..it wasn't a called play.

we burned 2 timeouts to run a ball screen for Barry Stewart.
 
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lawdawg02

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off a missed shot. do you really think stansbury drew up the play during the first timeout, and during the second timeout said "now barry, you go to the right side of the goal and throw up a runner off the backboard, and leave it on the rim so that jarvis can throw it down."??

i'm sure stansbury told jarvis to crash the boards hard. he may have even told barry to shoot with a couple of seconds left so that we'd have a shot at a putback if it misses. but to think we had an open dunk because of stans's play-call is just stupid. most junior high coaches would tell you to crash the boards hard and leave a second or two for a putback.
 
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awalkerdog

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I never said the dunk was the play Stansbury drew up. If "Randy" would have made the shot then the missed dunk is irrelevant, but he should have made the dunk whether he was in traffic or not.
 
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awalkerdog

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8Dog said:
a. that dunk was extremely difficult

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b. it was off a rebound..it wasn't a called play.

we burned 2 timeouts to run a ball screen for Barry Stewart.
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and if he hadn't used both time-outs ya'll would be bitching about why he didn't use both time outs, since it was going to be the last shot of the game.

damn......
 
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lawdawg02

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I never said the dunk was the play Stansbury drew up.
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i didn't think i replied to you. but i also disagree with your point. on the putback, several players were reaching for the rebound, and i'm sure someone got a hand on jarvis at some point. to say "he should have made the dunk whether he was in traffic or not" is not right, in my view. i would say "it would have been a spectacular play had he made the dunk." if he was by himself, then yes, the putback dunk is an easy play. but in traffic, at that juncture in the game, it's not an automatic.

my problem with the whole thing is (1) not talking to the players at all during your full timeout, (2) spending another :30 just so you can talk to the players, which is shorter than the time you talked to the coaches, and (3) using ALL that time to draw up a ball screen for your shooting guard, which should've been an easy call.

you know, maybe stans thinks our team has a leader that would've been talking to the other guys during the first timeout. someone to get in their face and tell them to make a play. i could see rhodes or jamoney doing that. but this team has no emotional leader. randy sat there like a knot on a log. as the "veteran" of the team, he should've been doing something. if you want to be the guy taking the shots, then be a leader. and stop sucking.
 
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Frances Drebin

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...to get off Randy's case. It's not his fault he can't beat guys off the dribble and create his own shot. He shouldn't be put in the situation to have to try it. His freshmens year, he was a dead-eye jumpshooter. Other guys (Gordon) handled the ball and kicked it out to him for the jumper (on the rare occasion he was willing to pass the ball), which he usually nailed. When he can catch and shoot in rhythm, he's an asset. When he has to create his shot, he can't do it. This isn't rocket science, and it's a shame that Stans can't see it.
 
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that we used an entire timeout to draw up a ball screen for barry stewart.
 
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Frances Drebin

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...the fact that you almost never see a coach call back-to-back timeouts to draw up a play, I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you on that one.
 
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maygray1

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to the free throw line with TWO time outs left and 14 seconds left when the boy from SD missed the front end of the 1 and 1. We are do two at that point and brought the ball down without a play on with two time outs in our pocket.
 
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my problem with the whole thing is (1) not talking to the players at all during your full timeout, (2) spending another :30 just so you can talk to the players, which is shorter than the time you talked to the coaches, and (3) using ALL that time to draw up a ball screen for your shooting guard, which should've been an easy call.
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I don't have a problem with 1 or 2. It did seem strange for him to have his back to the players for the entire timeout, but I don't play for the guy so maybe in wasn't a surprise to the players. I can understand the argument about him ignoring the players, but I don't have a problem with using up both timeouts at that point.

But I agree, the final play was ridiculous - is that the best "game winning" play we can come up with?
 
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Stans typically consults with his assistants before huddling with a player. That's not an uncommon thing.

I agree a screen for Barry "Bricking it" Stewart is not the optimum play, but we just don't have any scorers this year. Despite what people want to think, we are in a rebuilding year and very young this year. I don't think the young excuse could really be thrown out last year because we had Jamont, Charles, and experienced Sophomores in Hans, and Barry. Unfortunately we lost all of those but Barry and Barry hasn't been lighting it up this year.

I think it's pathetic that our Junior SG is averaging under 10pts a game. We just really don't have a go to guy.
 
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Mr Meoff

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he didn't even talk to the players during the ENTIRE timeout. I know he likes to 'strategize' with the two mental giants Kirby and Cunningham for a few seconds during most timeouts, but last night they all just stood around in two groups -- players in one, coaches in another -- and looked completely LOST. I was watching with some friends and everybody pointed it out at the same time.
 
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maroonmania

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its just whoever the current go-to guy is taking it and flinging up whatever kind of shot they can come up with. Why would anybody be surprised at this? I'm certain the opposing coach is not. This year that guy will be Randy Stewart. For the past 2 years, it had been Jamont Gordon. Every close game we had the past 2 years the final play was Jamont running down and jacking up a shot no matter how defended he was or how off-balance he was. It will be the same this year just insert Randy for Jamont.
 
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lawdawg02

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even my wife said "why aren't they talking to the players?" i know that they usually converse before talking to the players. but they talked to each other FOR THE WHOLE TIMEOUT.

i would rather have seen us run the back-side alleyoop screen play. at least that uses some away-from-the-ball screens and movement. if you have to go 1-4 and screen, i would rather bost have the ball and put barry and ravern on the three point line. screen and roll with jarvis and have osby cut on the weak side.

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I know he likes to 'strategize' with the two mental giants Kirby and Cunningham
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that's absolutely hilarious.</p>
 
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