Did Cleveland write an article saying Orgeron
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You couldn't really say he took a stand that Orgeron should be fired - not like Cronkite saying the war was now unwinnable - just stating what everyone else, and I mean everyone else, had known for a long time.
"I'd be a poor newspaperman indeed, if I didn't know what everyone else knows."
- Dutton S. Peabody
Editor, The Shinbone Star
"The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance"
"I'd be a poor newspaperman indeed, if I didn't know what everyone else knows."
- Dutton S. Peabody
Editor, The Shinbone Star
"The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance"
He'll defend the bad coach for months and years and then when the ink from the writing on the wall has dried, he'll finally come out and advocate a change. Then the next time he's defending the next terrible coach who needs to be fired and someone says that he always defends bad coaches, he'll point to the last article he wrote about the last bad coach as an example to prove that he doesn't always defend bad coaches. Of course, he'll neglect to mention all the articles he'd written before that last one where he defended him.
how you can say that the writing was on the wall for O before the MSU game. I think there were very few people who thought we would fire him last season. Very few. When I first heard about it, I was shocked. So was everybody else.
Now, I don't think he would have done any better this year. So, he probably would have been fired after this season if not last years. But, Cleveland didn't write it last year thinking that O was about to be fired.
I'm not defending Cleveland. I think he was a Cutcliffe man the entire time and was glad to see O go, but I don't think anybody saw the writing on the wall.
Now, I don't think he would have done any better this year. So, he probably would have been fired after this season if not last years. But, Cleveland didn't write it last year thinking that O was about to be fired.
I'm not defending Cleveland. I think he was a Cutcliffe man the entire time and was glad to see O go, but I don't think anybody saw the writing on the wall.
Orgeron was toast when more than 30,000 empty seats showed up for the Northwestern State game. The sight of that would scare the **** out of any athletic director. When the crowd picture from that game was posted on SPS the day after that game, my first thought was "Orgeron's history."
Can't remember if that was pre or post NW State. I was shocked when I heard, then literally two or three seconds later, not shocked at all. I was once again shocked when we hired Nutt.
Ole Miss is kind of lucky that O's team had the meltdown against us because that was the icing on the cake. I think that O would have been gone regardless because it seems like Nutt and Ole Miss had at least been having some informal talks for everything to happen so quickly.
I think he just fell into their laps. Otherwise why would they have signed a contract with a consulting firm to find them a coach, especially a contract that called for a 10% penalty if the contract was cancelled, which Mississippi had to pay when they hired Nutt literally just a couple of days after signing the contract.
I think the way it went down was:
1. Nutt was given an additional year at Arkansas.
2. Mississippi fired Orgeron.
3. Mississippi hires consulting firm to find a new coach.
4. Nutt sees opportunity at Mississippi and calls to see if they'd be interested in him.
4. Nutt negotiates a reduced buyout at Arkansas.
5. Nutt is offered and accepts the Mississippi job.
I think the way it went down was:
1. Nutt was given an additional year at Arkansas.
2. Mississippi fired Orgeron.
3. Mississippi hires consulting firm to find a new coach.
4. Nutt sees opportunity at Mississippi and calls to see if they'd be interested in him.
4. Nutt negotiates a reduced buyout at Arkansas.
5. Nutt is offered and accepts the Mississippi job.
I agree pat. The whole consulting firm thing throws the idea of a pre-arranged deal out the window. If we knew we were going to get Nutt all along, then we wouldn't have hired that firm, unless for some reason it was a ploy to make it look like we hadn't been working something behind the scenes.
I'm not buying that conspiracy theory though. There is no way Boone would be that wily, and there is definitely no way he'd waste the money to pay a consulting firm to do nothing.
That said, I still think NW State was the game that sealed Orgeron's fate. The MSU game just made it that much easier on our administration to make the move. He just gave them a little bit more to help back up their decision with the media and fans.
I'm not buying that conspiracy theory though. There is no way Boone would be that wily, and there is definitely no way he'd waste the money to pay a consulting firm to do nothing.
That said, I still think NW State was the game that sealed Orgeron's fate. The MSU game just made it that much easier on our administration to make the move. He just gave them a little bit more to help back up their decision with the media and fans.
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The funny thing is Chuck Neinas (whom State should hire) offered to return the 10% and Boone told him to keep it.
The funny thing is Chuck Neinas (whom State should hire) offered to return the 10% and Boone told him to keep it.