Discrimination?

DvlDog4WVU

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http://www.latimes.com/sports/usc/la-sp-usc-sarkisian-lawsuit-20151208-story.html

I consider myself a liberal, but I'm sorry, I can't see alcoholism as a disability. Maybe it's my ignorance....I think everyone has a choice, you need to "man up" and not abuse the stuff.
Lawsuit designed to get some kind of settlement payout. With his antics this year, I believe his contract regarding behavior and morality clauses were violated this allowing them to fire with cause and not pay his buyout. @easy91, please correct me if I'm incorrect in my assumption.
 

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Lawsuit designed to get some kind of settlement payout. With his antics this year, I believe his contract regarding behavior and morality clauses were violated this allowing them to fire with cause and not pay his buyout. @easy91, please correct me if I'm incorrect in my assumption.

I'm in agreement with this. He was hired to do a job, and was paid millions to do it. If he can't perform his duties, whatever the reason, then he shouldn't be in that position. I don't care if somebody calls it a disease or a disability or whatever. People hire people with disabilities all the time, but they put them in positions in which they can meet expectations.
 

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Lawsuit designed to get some kind of settlement payout. With his antics this year, I believe his contract regarding behavior and morality clauses were violated this allowing them to fire with cause and not pay his buyout. @easy91, please correct me if I'm incorrect in my assumption.

I think that you are spot on; he's using this suit as leverage to hopefully settle. I don't know what "conduct" clauses are in his contract, but I agree that his contract has moral clauses and provisions in it and that USC is trying to fire him due to such. Sark doesn't have much choice but to be proactive and file suit if he wand to recoup some of his contract money. Alcoholism and addiction are bases for disability as per government regulations; I would estimate that 30-40% of people on SSD or SSDI that I have to deal with under 50 have some addiction component as a basis for them being on the dole--it's frustrating.
 

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I was shocked when I found about "drunk money" in the early 90's re; SSD-SSDI.

I have two bonafide disabilities, epilepsy and Tourettes and have never taken a penny from the govt. To me a disability was something that hampered you in a severe way, say a congenital illness or someone who was torn up in an accident or via war. Something that totally screws your quality of life through no fault of your own.

I guess it was the time I was raised in or the standards I was taught. Just because I blink and twitch a little, it doesn't mean I'm helpless. If I was having constant seizures, I might consider it, but I've been lucky enough that they're an occasional thing. It's been 10 years since the last big one and if my meds hold up, I'm hoping to cash in my chips without having another.

Sarkasian needs to be horsewhipped.
 

Mntneer

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http://www.latimes.com/sports/usc/la-sp-usc-sarkisian-lawsuit-20151208-story.html

I consider myself a liberal, but I'm sorry, I can't see alcoholism as a disability. Maybe it's my ignorance....I think everyone has a choice, you need to "man up" and not abuse the stuff.

I have a disease.

 

mneilmont

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Lawsuit designed to get some kind of settlement payout. With his antics this year, I believe his contract regarding behavior and morality clauses were violated this allowing them to fire with cause and not pay his buyout. @easy91, please correct me if I'm incorrect in my assumption.
I think he has a winner. First, he is in California where many unbelievable trends are set. Then, in his job he is "required" to drink. As coach, he must attend fund raisers where substantial intoxicants are served. There is history of people in athletic departments across the lands who are sited for DWI after leaving such events. The rate of alcoholism in the coaching ranks would probably be higher than other professions. He can probably call as witnesses to confirm the atmosphere, any number of active and retired coaches. Even administration officials actively consume beverages of choice at these events.

And from personal experience, I have wondered why everyone on the fundraising circuit are(is) not confirmed alcoholic. The outings are all day and evening events attempting to hustle money. Alcohol seems to loosen the grip on the wallet. People get awfully friendly as they are standing at the bar. Coaches are required to be very social.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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I was shocked when I found about "drunk money" in the early 90's re; SSD-SSDI.

I have two bonafide disabilities, epilepsy and Tourettes and have never taken a penny from the govt. To me a disability was something that hampered you in a severe way, say a congenital illness or someone who was torn up in an accident or via war. Something that totally screws your quality of life through no fault of your own.

I guess it was the time I was raised in or the standards I was taught. Just because I blink and twitch a little, it doesn't mean I'm helpless. If I was having constant seizures, I might consider it, but I've been lucky enough that they're an occasional thing. It's been 10 years since the last big one and if my meds hold up, I'm hoping to cash in my chips without having another.

Sarkasian needs to be horsewhipped.
I always wanted a friend with Tourette's. I think we would have had great fun.
 

MikeRafone

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I don't get the good cussin' tics, but I do have some blinking/winking ones that have got me into some crap. Luckily, I was always larger than the average human being.

I've got a nephew who has the severe type, much like the kid who played point guard at LSU when Shaq was there. He's has a had hard life, but he's heading to Cornell in the fall. I'm hoping some of the SOB's who made fun of him are going to be working for him in another decade or so.