The one in Evansville doesn’t either thankfully.
But let’s be honest…. the mission of the “healthcare services” provided by PP is to promote brand awareness and brand loyalty to their flagship product of abortion services.
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But let’s be honest…. the mission of the “healthcare services” provided by PP is to promote brand awareness and brand loyalty to their flagship product of abortion services.
It’s insane on how such a successful company like Disney was overpaying millions in taxes for the good of the area…now Desantis and the FL state gov give them a huge tax cut!!!! And then with this huge tax cut and debt burden lifted, Disney’s stock tanks….
Almost as if….all that ******** isn’t true.
Almost as if….all that ******** isn’t true.
Ya I’m having trouble wrapping my mind around politicians causing something to significantly increase taxes on the citizens that they want to re-elect them. I also don’t understand how something that costs Disney millions in taxes and a billion in debt was used to lure them to build there? Something just isn’t passing a common sense test.
Yes, it was founded for birth control. Nothing wrong with birth control. They've expanded their services over time and for millions of Americans are the only option for many health care services. I'm sure if red states wanted to they could fund other public health services that would make those at Planned Parenthood redundant. But as I've said, public health in red states is quite poor overall because they don't believe in actually funding it.
It is a fact that Disney was spending more in taxes than they needed to. They did it so they controlled the infrastructure at Disney World, which is much nicer than the surrounding infrastructure. In return the surrounding counties did not have to pay for that infrastructure. It was a mutually beneficial relationship for both parties. Disney wasn't doing it out of the goodness of their heart, they were doing it because they payoff of paying more in taxes to control the quality of the roads leading to Magic Kingdom was worth it to them. And the state did it because the trade off of giving Disney control over that area was worth it for the surrounding counties.
And this did not cause the stock to tank. If you actually looked at the stock chart you'd see it has been on a downward slide for over six months now.
It was founded to kill black babies and has been a huge success if that is your objective. Blacks abort more than any race. But it is their choice so kill away Planned Parenthood. The liberals love it and the Democrat Party supports it with their money.
But someday someone will answer for this. As far as Red States funding other options they do and Red States also depend and support private organizations that do not kill women's babies but help women or girls for the most part. Most of the aborters are not adult women they are young girls and barely legal girls.
It was not founded to kill black babies. It did not even start providing abortions until 1973. Its founder was both probably racist and a champion for birth control. Both things can be true because people can be nuanced. That doesn't take away from what the organization currently does.
And whatever means red states use to fund their public health obviously isn't working because the outcomes are dreadful. Texas has a third world maternal fatality rate. The world isn't black and white, you can't just defund Planned Parenthood without giving women other options. Which is what Indiana did and the result was a giant HIV outbreak.
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All of this could be written off as a failed marriage if Disney moves to Texas. Honestly to many Floridians Disney is not a good neighbor and the change it brought has not been positive. The company is based in Burbank, CA and the company's values do not reflect Florida in any manner. When they came they were a family friendly entertainment organization but now they are WOKE and as WOKE as any company in America, including Coca Cola. They are not welcome anymore by most of us down here. Oh we have a few transplants that do I will give you that.
I don't know where you live in Florida but I live 50 miles from Disney. Very few people around here care one way or another if they leave. They are not a valued neighbor, they are not popular with the natives and few Floridians go there. I last went in 1983.
Florida does not need Disney. Now maybe Disney needs Florida but if Texas truly wants them maybe Disney can make it over there. Florida will survive if they leave. We survived for hundreds of years without air conditioning. We can survive if Mickey leaves with Tinker Bell and his man.
What you say can be 100% true but it should be a decision left up to the people of Florida, not the Governor because he disagrees with Disney for making a specific public statement. Put the decision to dissolve Reedy Creek up for a vote, particularly with the residents of Orange and Osceola counties.
The vote happened. The legislative branch is elected by the people. That branch drafted and voted on the bill. DeSantis signed it. It wasn't DeSantis vs. Disney. It was the people vs. Disney. Disney lost.
You have to be pretty naive, or blindly partisan, to think that this was democracy in action. This was a temper tantrum by DeSantis and the GOP legislators because they don't like Disney throwing around its political muscle in a way they disagree with. This literally was not an issue a few weeks ago until Disney started withholding political donations from Florida politicians. If Florida wanted to make this an issue for the next election cycle, and then the Legislature voted on it that's a completely different story. But that's not what happened.
I've said countless times I don't care if Florida wants to revoke the district. It just has to be for a legitimate reason. If the Legislator laid out specific reasons why Reedy Creek harmed the people of Florida and voted due to those reason I would have no objections whatsoever.
Gov DeSantis did not make an Executive Order. He listened to the residents of the states through their elected state representatives. My local representative and state senate had phones ringing off of the hook demanding something be done to Disney for threatening to "groom our children" by trying to over throw a law.
The representatives drew up the bill and DeSantis signed it. There is no reason to put to a vote when the people have already spoken through their elected representatives. Do you understand what elected officials do?
Now if you do not agree with the people's representatives contact your state representative and state your objection.
If I understood you correctly you are a resident of Florida so your opinion would count. Who is your state senator? Mine is Winfred Simpson, President of the Florida Senate. If he represents your area of the state you are going to have a hard time changing his mind. He helped push this through. Good luck
Wow! Disney getting a 163M tax break per year and losing 1B of debt off its sheets from this deal and it ended up at its 1 YR low stock wise - cratering….
You’d think getting rid of 1B debt and 163M tax per year would cause a rebound! Interesting.
Either admit you're lying with hyperbolic rhetoric or show me the quote.
The quote? Wtf do you think he's doing, endearing himself to gays? jfc
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You must be kidding. What a biased bunch of nonsense. I'd critique each example but its a waste of my time and DeSantis didn't tell gays to disappear. Why not post both sides of the subject? Afraid that would ruin your agenda? For example, males should NEVER compete in sports against females. Women have rights.
So much for your position of protecting gays from harm huh? DeSantis is harm. Make sure to support him now.
He has done nothing to harm gays.
I find it hard to believe that you're in favor of teaching k-3 graders about sex and sexual orientation.
Thank you. What we are seeing is a tactic from the left. They throw out false narratives and start arguing until they are convinced what they are throwing out becomes true. It is far from truth.
DeSantis and the Florida State Legislature passed nothing or said anything to the detriment of gays. Unless gays are saying they prefer to approach K-3rd grade kids about sexual matters. That would be a new one on me. I haven't heard any argument regarding that. Except of course from the hard left represented in the Big Blue fandom of Cats Illustrated.
Because you say it, it is so. The only way to keep this from happening must be to abort more babies. Awesome!!
There are some really spurious correlations being made by the liberals on this board. End abortion and Planned Parenthood no longer exists.
Uh, like federally funded community health centers that have existed for decades?
Racist eugenics are the words you are looking for when you are talking about the founder of Planned Parenthood. An advocate for abortion and a proponent of eugenics. And, low and behold, the proportion of black babies aborted is much greater than whites in this country. Go figure. How could we ever live without racist outcomes in abortion. So important to the liberals.
I don’t know if it was a temper tantrum, given that the governor could not make this happen on his own and the legislative branch pass the bill that the governor signed into law. All duly elected. Seems like a democratic republic in action to me.
If Andy shuts down schools, builds a fence around the govs mansion, and mandates masks, it's "democracy in action" because he was elected governor.
If DeSantis, with the approval of over half of Florida, removes tax exemption status from a company, it's a "political" "temper tantrum."
At least the left stays right on point every goosestep of the way.
If DeSantis, with the approval of over half of Florida, removes tax exemption status from a company, it's a "political" "temper tantrum."
At least the left stays right on point every goosestep of the way.
For the left a "legitimate" reason for them to lose exemption status would be Disney speaking against PP funding by the fed gov, starting a conservative social media platform, or removing witchcraft and alternative sexual lifestyles from their programming.
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Nobody gives a **** whether you think it was a legit reason or not. It was a legit reason for the people of Florida and the legislature. Disney lost. Period.
I absolutely agree with ukcatz12 that politicians passing/reversing laws based on spite is an absolutely horrible and miserable precedent and everyone should agree with that, but you’re not because most of you are into party politics and your team won.
I also am so GD sick of all these corporations, and every part of society frankly, getting constantly involved in politics. It’s like Jesus Christ can everyone just STFU and live their lives, damn. Disney+ was a miracle to me as it allowed me to completely ignore all news about 2 weeks into COVID and just watch benign cartoons with my kids, it was great. So I’m secretly happy that Disney for some reason felt the need to get into politics and now it’s backfiring. I hope it will cause other companies to just STFU and offer the best product they can moving forward, which I’m sure is a hopeless hope.
Michael Jordan, my favorite athlete growing up, once famously said “Republicans buy shoes too”. I love him for that attitude and not needlessly getting into politics like everyone seems to nowadays. What a breath of fresh air.
I also am so GD sick of all these corporations, and every part of society frankly, getting constantly involved in politics. It’s like Jesus Christ can everyone just STFU and live their lives, damn. Disney+ was a miracle to me as it allowed me to completely ignore all news about 2 weeks into COVID and just watch benign cartoons with my kids, it was great. So I’m secretly happy that Disney for some reason felt the need to get into politics and now it’s backfiring. I hope it will cause other companies to just STFU and offer the best product they can moving forward, which I’m sure is a hopeless hope.
Michael Jordan, my favorite athlete growing up, once famously said “Republicans buy shoes too”. I love him for that attitude and not needlessly getting into politics like everyone seems to nowadays. What a breath of fresh air.
That is literally the main part of the Florida law. That and ensuring kids are only taught age appropriate information.
Curious that you find that funny.
Oh my, that was truly awesome, like A-list road material. It hurts to laugh, that was so masterful.
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