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When I was in England for work five years ago, the only other guy who could speak English was this Indian dude who worked in Saudi Arabia. I naturally hung out with him on this trip and had dinner. One of the things he wanted to know was...."Tell me about the guns." He thought Americans were basically Yosemite Sam just shooting all the time and eating cheeseburgers.


Anything the left calls conspiracy is just **** people see coming from a mile away or calling out what's already occurred or occurring. These are very evil people. We had Epstein and his cohort setting up child sex slaves and sex trafficking for powerful people and Epstein was killed and nothing was done about it and Maxwell's court docs were sealed. So there's a two-tiered justice system here where the powerful elite can steal, kill, create chaos, and rape kids and the public is not allowed to know about it because these people have bought everyone---the judges, lawyers, politicians, media, all of it.
Yes! The same dude literally thought the same thing…I think he actually thought there were gun shootouts all the time

Well, maybe in New York, Chicago, Los Angeles
 
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Because the left is a cult incapable of self analyzing or being critical of the dogma or their masters. There is absolutely no difference in how you'd see a Scientologist react or a leftist react to questioning or exposing them.

They simply cannot criticize their party. Everything Dems say is good and true to them. No matter the topic. As we see on here and everywhere, their base will adopt whatever the belief they're fed and then not allow any deviation from that narrative. Every. Single. Topic.
I lean right/libertarian, probably like many, but this is 100% correct. I’ll rip a Republican politician as much as a Democrat one, but leftist swing on the sack of ever democrat politician.

seriously…rip politicians on either side.
 

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I lean right/libertarian, probably like many, but this is 100% correct. I’ll rip a Republican politician as much as a Democrat one, but leftist swing on the sack of ever democrat politician.

seriously…rip politicians on either side.
Political figures and media on both sides are by and large awful.
 

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Because the left is a cult incapable of self analyzing or being critical of the dogma or their masters. There is absolutely no difference in how you'd see a Scientologist react or a leftist react to questioning or exposing them.

They simply cannot criticize their party. Everything Dems say is good and true to them. No matter the topic. As we see on here and everywhere, their base will adopt whatever the belief they're fed and then not allow any deviation from that narrative. Every. Single. Topic.

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November is going to shock a lot of Democrat politicians

IF that DOES happen, and I'm not and haven't been sure of election integrity for decades, will the right and moderates be in for a shock when the Republicans once again do NOTHING that they pledge to do in order to get elected, just as they did in 2017-2018? Are we actually going to get to vote for real people or just more compromised politicians who will use their office for graft and grandstanding?
 

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He sounds like Ganner.

Drop that pos in Dearborn, MI so he can preach that **** to the resident Muslims. Better yet, send him to Iran and see how long before they throw his *** off a tall building.
💯 send him to Afghanistan.
 
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Bottom line is many Americans still believe homosexuality is perverse and immoral. Not something that should be celebrated and condoned as normal or mainstream. That's what I believe and that's not a judgement of the people who engage in such activity, it's a disdain of the lifestyle itself.

Those saying that lifestyle isn't being forced upon us are flat wrong. All across media, movies, TV and the news, we are inundated with visuals and storylines glorifying gay culture. Kids are being taught liberal values (heavy on the LGBTQ culture) in schools in the name of "diversity" and "equity". People just don't want that stuff forced upon themselves and especially not their children if it runs contrary to their values.
Don't believe me? Look at the crap storm Disney has stirred up this week by going full-on woke with their content. Parents don't want their kids exposed to that stuff. And you do NOT want thousands of angry Mom's coming at you.
 

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Bottom line is many Americans still believe homosexuality is perverse and immoral. Not something that should be celebrated and condoned as normal or mainstream. That's what I believe and that's not a judgement of the people who engage in such activity, it's a disdain of the lifestyle itself.
You have every right to that opinion, but a majority of the country believes in same-sex marriage for instance and a majority of the country no longer holds the above opinion you have on the subject. No one is going to forcibly make you change with the times, but it is what it is. A majority want sports gambling. A majority want legalized marijuana. You can choose to sit and stir about the act of homosexuality or you can choose to just enjoy your day. I couldn't tell you what young people get out of today's popular music, so you know what I did? I dug deep and found probably 50 newish bands that I now love. My guess is religion and/or your parents instilled the belief in you that homosexuality is wrong. That's your belief system but that isn't the majority anymore. Don't know what else to say. Cheer up and be a bit more happy about life?
 
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You have every right to that opinion, but a majority of the country believes in same-sex marriage for instance and a majority of the country no longer holds the above opinion you have on the subject. No one is going to forcibly make you change with the times, but it is what it is. A majority want sports gambling. A majority want legalized marijuana. You can choose to sit and stir about the act of homosexuality or you can choose to just enjoy your day. I couldn't tell you what young people get out of today's popular music, so you know what I did? I dug deep and found probably 50 newish bands that I now love. My guess is religion and/or your parents instilled the belief in you that homosexuality is wrong. That's your belief system but that isn't the majority anymore. Don't know what else to say. Cheer up and be a bit more happy about life?
How do you know it's a majority?
 
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Bottom line is many Americans still believe homosexuality is perverse and immoral. Not something that should be celebrated and condoned as normal or mainstream. That's what I believe and that's not a judgement of the people who engage in such activity, it's a disdain of the lifestyle itself.

Those saying that lifestyle isn't being forced upon us are flat wrong. All across media, movies, TV and the news, we are inundated with visuals and storylines glorifying gay culture. Kids are being taught liberal values (heavy on the LGBTQ culture) in schools in the name of "diversity" and "equity". People just don't want that stuff forced upon themselves and especially not their children if it runs contrary to their values.
Don't believe me? Look at the crap storm Disney has stirred up this week by going full-on woke with their content. Parents don't want their kids exposed to that stuff. And you do NOT want thousands of angry Mom's coming at you.
If we shouldn't gay culture on straight people in public education, then why should straight culture be forced on gay people in public education?

Reminds me a little bit of the stupid comments people make when they complain about more minorities and women on TV shows and how they get overrepresented. Well I haven't heard these same people ever complain about whites and/or males were/are being overrepresented on TV. So why is it okay for whites and males to be overrepresented but when minorities and women want a slice of the pie it's all of a sudden a problem?

Like I heard my dad complain when they made the new Wonder Years show an all-black main cast, something to the effect of "it doesn't surprise me, they always trying to do that these days" then went on some rant about everyone but straight whites being overrepresented on TV. The whole show is about the experience of a black family in the late 60s and early 70s, what are you expecting?
 
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How do you know it's a majority?
Polling has only gone up on the subject over the years. But if you choose to believe polling is fake news, where's the outrage over homosexuality in every town and city? Bill O'Reilly close to 20 years ago on his Fox show tried to connect gay marriage to crime rising in Sweden because they allowed same sex marriage/unions and it was being talked about here. If you really believe the part I quoted from the above poster is the majority of the country's feeling, then why do you think so? In 2022 do you believe a majority of the United States believes homosexuality is evil/a sin/disdainful? The anger isn't there anymore. Mind's well ask next why I think a majority want weed legalized. Because a majority doesn't see it as a big issue anymore. The anger over it isn't there. It's outdated thinking and generally accepted now. IMO this is common sense stuff (homosexuality not being some evil mark of the beast, not the trans learning in school stuff).
 

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I'd be more upset about consequential genuine idiocy than misused words or typos.

There's no way in hell I'd let my kids around these people, educated by them, or entertained by them at Disney, whatever... if you bothered to read the leftist literature, which no one apparently does except leftists and that's a minority of them too, you conservatives would be far more outraged than you are.
 

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Hear that, Joey? SDC is demanding that you be very angry. And James, you stop clicking on those laughing tear emoji's! I mean it now. Stop! Get serious. This isn't a Chuck E. Cheese, it's the Paddock, damn it.
 
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I was just skimming the thread and seeing the misuse of “impotence” for “impetus” bothered me more than whatever you guys are arguing about. That’s an Idiocracy-level malapropism, man. Geez.
Yup need to edit the word
 

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You have every right to that opinion, but a majority of the country believes in same-sex marriage for instance and a majority of the country no longer holds the above opinion you have on the subject. No one is going to forcibly make you change with the times, but it is what it is. A majority want sports gambling. A majority want legalized marijuana. You can choose to sit and stir about the act of homosexuality or you can choose to just enjoy your day. I couldn't tell you what young people get out of today's popular music, so you know what I did? I dug deep and found probably 50 newish bands that I now love. My guess is religion and/or your parents instilled the belief in you that homosexuality is wrong. That's your belief system but that isn't the majority anymore. Don't know what else to say. Cheer up and be a bit more happy about life?
Sorry, I do not believe a majority of Americans believe homosexuality is OK or normal. Perhaps in deep blue states or cities but, certainly not in rural America, the midwest or the south. And certainly not among minorities, specifically blacks and hispanics. They also do not support abortion. These are liberal secular agendas being pushed upon them as part of a victim-class mentality. The idea that just because someone is a minority that they are also a liberal or should be, is ridiculous.
My religious beliefs and God-given commonsense have formed my values. Doesn't matter if I am the only one in the room who believes what I do. Adopting a popular or trendy agenda just to "change with the times" seems impetuous and immature.
Again, I have no quarrel with any individual. But, I do condemn the lifestyle they choose to lead. Just like I would condemn the lifestyle of a adulterer or career thief. Even if you aren't religious, some things are just instinctive.
I'm actually very happy. It's Easter weekend and I am celebrating the risen Christ!
 

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If we shouldn't gay culture on straight people in public education, then why should straight culture be forced on gay people in public education?

Reminds me a little bit of the stupid comments people make when they complain about more minorities and women on TV shows and how they get overrepresented. Well I haven't heard these same people ever complain about whites and/or males were/are being overrepresented on TV. So why is it okay for whites and males to be overrepresented but when minorities and women want a slice of the pie it's all of a sudden a problem?

Like I heard my dad complain when they made the new Wonder Years show an all-black main cast, something to the effect of "it doesn't surprise me, they always trying to do that these days" then went on some rant about everyone but straight whites being overrepresented on TV. The whole show is about the experience of a black family in the late 60s and early 70s, what are you expecting?
Are we actually forcing straight culture on people in education? I thought schools were intended to teach Science, Math, Literature, etc. When did it become necessary to teach sexuality in schools? Commonsense tells me that my sexuality is just that...mine. And THAT is part of the problem. There is no reasonable situation where a elementary school teacher should be counseling a student on transgenderism or homosexuality. Especially without parental consent and/or direction.

There is a case for minorities being "overpresented" (your word). If we really expect our TV shows, movies, etc. to be reflective of our culture then about 15% of characters should be black and about 18% should be Hispanic. That means that 2/3rds of characters would accordingly be white. Over half would be women and again 2/3rds would be white. Now, I'm not going to sit around counting minorities or whites on TV because well, that'd be boring and it just isn't that important to me. But, if you truly want "equity" then those are the numbers.
 
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Sorry, I do not believe a majority of Americans believe homosexuality is OK or normal. Perhaps in deep blue states or cities but, certainly not in rural America, the midwest or the south. And certainly not among minorities, specifically blacks and hispanics. They also do not support abortion. These are liberal secular agendas being pushed upon them as part of a victim-class mentality. The idea that just because someone is a minority that they are also a liberal or should be, is ridiculous.
My religious beliefs and God-given commonsense have formed my values. Doesn't matter if I am the only one in the room who believes what I do. Adopting a popular or trendy agenda just to "change with the times" seems impetuous and immature.
Again, I have no quarrel with any individual. But, I do condemn the lifestyle they choose to lead. Just like I would condemn the lifestyle of a adulterer or career thief. Even if you aren't religious, some things are just instinctive.
I'm actually very happy. It's Easter weekend and I am celebrating the risen Christ!
Americans encompasses all of America, not just certain areas or certain people.

And rural America accounted for just 17.3% of the US population, according to the below website. I've seen other websites put it as high as 20%. Regardless, Rural America is very much the minority.
 

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Polling has only gone up on the subject over the years. But if you choose to believe polling is fake news, where's the outrage over homosexuality in every town and city? Bill O'Reilly close to 20 years ago on his Fox show tried to connect gay marriage to crime rising in Sweden because they allowed same sex marriage/unions and it was being talked about here. If you really believe the part I quoted from the above poster is the majority of the country's feeling, then why do you think so? In 2022 do you believe a majority of the United States believes homosexuality is evil/a sin/disdainful? The anger isn't there anymore. Mind's well ask next why I think a majority want weed legalized. Because a majority doesn't see it as a big issue anymore. The anger over it isn't there. It's outdated thinking and generally accepted now. IMO this is common sense stuff (homosexuality not being some evil mark of the beast, not the trans learning in school stuff).
I personally do not want weed legalized. IMO it's a gateway drug. No only that but it's a stepping stone to legalize other more powerful substances. Why? Because I've never seen a instance where liberals are happy once they get one of their pet causes made law or legalized. The old adage of "give an inch, take a mile" comes immediately to mind.
I know it probably happens more that I know or would be comfortable with if the truth were known. But, the thought of meeting an oncoming car on a narrow backroad when the other driver is high is not something I want to face.
How about in industrial environments where a forklift driver steps out on his break and takes a few hits before getting back in the drivers seat? I would think legalizing weed would cause liability insurance in places or situations like that to soar. Just seems like asking for trouble to me.
 

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I personally do not want weed legalized. IMO it's a gateway drug. No only that but it's a stepping stone to legalize other more powerful substances. Why? Because I've never seen a instance where liberals are happy once they get one of their pet causes made law or legalized. The old adage of "give an inch, take a mile" comes immediately to mind.
I know it probably happens more that I know or would be comfortable with if the truth were known. But, the thought of meeting an oncoming car on a narrow backroad when the other driver is high is not something I want to face.
How about in industrial environments where a forklift driver steps out on his break and takes a few hits before getting back in the drivers seat? I would think legalizing weed would cause liability insurance in places or situations like that to soar. Just seems like asking for trouble to me.
How do you feel about alcohol?

Marijuana legalization is not a liberal issue. It has overwhelming bipartisan support.
 
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There is a case for minorities being "overpresented" (your word). If we really expect our TV shows, movies, etc. to be reflective of our culture then about 15% of characters should be black and about 18% should be Hispanic. That means that 2/3rds of characters would accordingly be white. Over half would be women and again 2/3rds would be white. Now, I'm not going to sit around counting minorities or whites on TV because well, that'd be boring and it just isn't that important to me. But, if you truly want "equity" then those are the numbers.
You're missing the point. It's that people are complaining about minorities of any sort being overrepresented, but those same people never say a peep when white people are overrepresented. I didn't hear them complaining when The Last Samurai was whitewashed with Tom Cruise as the lead, after all.

Why is it bad for minorities to be overrepresented when all was good for the complainers when it is/was white people being overrepresented? If overrepresentation of any one group is bad, then it should be bad for all, not just bad when it's minorities being overrepresented.

For the record, I don't really care about rather one group is overrepresented in tv shows or movies. I just want good content and for the actor representing the role to be be authentic for the role - like if the movie is a biopic of MLK Jr. or Jackie Robinson, the actor portraying them. better damn well be black. Or if it's a movie is about the first woman being the first one to do a certain thing, well then the main character better damn well be a woman.

I know it probably happens more that I know or would be comfortable with if the truth were known. But, the thought of meeting an oncoming car on a narrow backroad when the other driver is high is not something I want to face.
So then I assume you support adding alcohol to the banned substance list?
 
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Sorry, I do not believe a majority of Americans believe homosexuality is OK or normal. Perhaps in deep blue states or cities but, certainly not in rural America, the midwest or the south. And certainly not among minorities, specifically blacks and hispanics. They also do not support abortion. These are liberal secular agendas being pushed upon them as part of a victim-class mentality. The idea that just because someone is a minority that they are also a liberal or should be, is ridiculous.
My religious beliefs and God-given commonsense have formed my values. Doesn't matter if I am the only one in the room who believes what I do. Adopting a popular or trendy agenda just to "change with the times" seems impetuous and immature.
Again, I have no quarrel with any individual. But, I do condemn the lifestyle they choose to lead. Just like I would condemn the lifestyle of a adulterer or career thief. Even if you aren't religious, some things are just instinctive.
I'm actually very happy. It's Easter weekend and I am celebrating the risen Christ!
As a fellow Christian, I respectfully disagree with your views on homosexuality. It's an outdated perspective akin to thinking writing left-handed was evil in the 1930s. It's not based on a proper interpretation of scripture, but you are certainly entitled to your beliefs...just as gay men and women are entitled to love who they want without governement interference.

Furthermore, the issue only seems popular or trendy because gay folks feel more empowered to be their true selves. There aren't any more or less gay people than there were 200 years ago...there's just more that are now comfortable admitting it.
 
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Hear that, Joey? SDC is demanding that you be very angry. And James, you stop clicking on those laughing tear emoji's! I mean it now. Stop! Get serious. This isn't a Chuck E. Cheese, it's the Paddock, damn it.

I'm not making any demands of anyone.

I'd be more upset about the former than the latter, but I'm not upset about either. Conservatives still don't have a clue what's actually happening, and that's probably for the best.

And no, I could give two chits of an F about your Kentucky gambling or marijuana, your drag queen shows at your mediocre local sports bars, or how many dudes you like to flog on the weekend or any other kind of other degenerate behavior you choose to engage in.

Leave children alone though.
 
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Sorry, I do not believe a majority of Americans believe homosexuality is OK or normal. Perhaps in deep blue states or cities but, certainly not in rural America, the midwest or the south. And certainly not among minorities, specifically blacks and hispanics. They also do not support abortion. These are liberal secular agendas being pushed upon them as part of a victim-class mentality. The idea that just because someone is a minority that they are also a liberal or should be, is ridiculous.
My religious beliefs and God-given commonsense have formed my values. Doesn't matter if I am the only one in the room who believes what I do. Adopting a popular or trendy agenda just to "change with the times" seems impetuous and immature.
Again, I have no quarrel with any individual. But, I do condemn the lifestyle they choose to lead. Just like I would condemn the lifestyle of a adulterer or career thief. Even if you aren't religious, some things are just instinctive.
I'm actually very happy. It's Easter weekend and I am celebrating the risen Christ!
330+ million people live in the United States. If you want to pick and choose little pockets of society and claim they feel the same way you feel, that's fine I guess. Heck, sports gambling won't pass in KY because of a couple small town politicians, even though they seem to be okay with the lottery, horse racing, and March Madness brackets. I don't know what to say if you really believe that basically 166 million people in the US agree with you on homosexuality. National polling shows the opposite. Conversations "out in the wild" say the opposite. It just isn't an issue most are passionate about now days. I don't think you should be condemned for your opinion though.

I personally do not want weed legalized. IMO it's a gateway drug. No only that but it's a stepping stone to legalize other more powerful substances. Why? Because I've never seen a instance where liberals are happy once they get one of their pet causes made law or legalized. The old adage of "give an inch, take a mile" comes immediately to mind.
I know it probably happens more that I know or would be comfortable with if the truth were known. But, the thought of meeting an oncoming car on a narrow backroad when the other driver is high is not something I want to face.
How about in industrial environments where a forklift driver steps out on his break and takes a few hits before getting back in the drivers seat? I would think legalizing weed would cause liability insurance in places or situations like that to soar. Just seems like asking for trouble to me.
Again, this seems like another outdated opinion/stance, but that's your right. One thing I noticed is you keep bringing up liberals. I haven't mentioned conservatives once during our conversation. You can accomplish more if you don't view things in the liberal/conservative spectrum.

I think you've seen that anti-weed commercial where the kids are high in the drive-thru and pull into the kid on the bicycle. That commercial isn't played anymore because it was mocked by the masses. That situation never happened. Making it legal doesn't give you the green light (so to speak) to be high and drive or to arrive at your job high or take a few tokes on your work break. If you treat it like alcohol (which is widely promoted and accepted) then most already know not to show up to work with alcohol on your breath or to use a forklift while drunk. How do you feel about pills? That's completely legal and has destroyed towns, many of which in this very state.

Anyway, at my job my boss is pretty straight laced. If weed became legal in KY, he'd probably laughingly make a remark to the company about not showing up high, and we'd all say "Yeah, I mean of course. That's a given." Your stances are just very Bill O'Reilly circa early 2000s when he was complaining for an hour every night about society.
 

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IMO it's a gateway drug. No only that but it's a stepping stone to legalize other more powerful substances.
The Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences would disagree with you: "There is no conclusive evidence that the drug effects of marijuana are causally linked to the subsequent abuse of other illicit drugs." There is a correlation between marijuana use and other drug use, but study after study show no causation. Alcohol and nicotine show similar correlations to hard drug use as marijuana does, and yet they're both legal.

What keeping it illegal does do is direct those who use it to illegal dealers who will then push other substances. And keeping it illegal has been a massive failure in its own right, from a criminal justice point of view to it being a factor in the opioid epidemic.

If we set aside our puritanical beliefs and stop assuming drug use is a character flaw we might be surprised at the outcome of tightly regulated but legal or at least decriminalized drugs. Since Portugal has decriminalized drugs they've seen overdoses drop, HIV infections drop, and drug crime drop.
 
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I'm not making any demands of anyone.

I'd be more upset about the former than the latter, but I'm not upset about either. Conservatives still don't have a clue what's actually happening, and that's probably for the best.

And no, I could give two chits of an F about your Kentucky gambling or marijuana, your drag queen shows at your mediocre local sports bars, or how many dudes you like to flog on the weekend or any other kind of other degenerate behavior you choose to engage in.

Leave children alone though.
I just thought it was odd that you were trying to rally people into being mad again, like you wanted another 11 pages of pissing and moaning. I said my thoughts on the subject on a previous page, but these threads do evolve over time. Your second paragraph is just ranting nonsense. Your third sentence is a plea to who? This board? Me? You're all over the place, friend.
 

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As a fellow Christian, I respectfully disagree with your views on homosexuality. It's an outdated perspective akin to thinking writing left-handed was evil in the 1930s. It's not based on a proper interpretation of scripture, but you are certainly entitled to your beliefs...just as gay men and women are entitled to love who they want without governement interference.

Furthermore, the issue only seems popular or trendy because gay folks feel more empowered to be their true selves. There aren't any more or less gay people than there were 200 years ago...there's just more that are now comfortable admitting it.
The Bible is very clear, homosexual acts are a sin. We aren't to hate homosexuals, nor mistreat them. A sin though? It is biblically speaking. That has nothing to do with culture. It's still a sin. As is adultery and other forms of sexual immorality.
 
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The Bible is very clear, homosexual acts are a sin. We aren't to hate homosexuals, nor mistreat them. A sin though? It is biblically speaking. That has nothing to do with culture. It's still a sin. As is adultery and other forms of sexual immorality.
No it's not clear based on many interpretations from Biblical scholars that have much more experience with hermeneutics than you or I.
 

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We're all sinners for what it's worth. I try not to judge adults for their decisions, especially when they don't harm others. Trying to influence children regarding sexuality is harmful in my opinion, though.

List of sins
Totally agree. Never said otherwise. I was just addressing his post.
 
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