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NittPicker

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The Bills defense didn't put up much of a fight on the last couple Chiefs possessions.
 

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A very entertaining game from an offensive perspective. Defensively not so much.
 

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Mahomes is a magician.
I was thinking that on the play with 7 seconds to go that the Bills would let anyone that caught the ball in the middle of the field keep running and just tackle him at the 10 and the clock would have expired......
 

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How does the NFL continue to see how bad the OT format is and continues to not significantly change it? Most important coinflip in NFL history
Give each team 5 minutes from the 50 continually until the game ends with a defensive stop.
 

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Give each team 5 minutes from the 50 continually until the game ends with a defensive stop.
whatever format the go with, you need to have both teams have a chance with the ball. Even the college format has that going for it. Nobody wants the coin flip to be the key factor. If Buffalo wins the flip, then they probably win the game. great game, but Bills deserved a better shot.

Actually, the Bill did not play the last 13 seconds right. kick off needs to be long grounder and force time consumed on the run. That would have taken probably 5 seconds. If they keep them inside the 30, that would have created a nearly impossible hurdle for the Chiefs.
 

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Bills need RBs. They really need some RBs. too much on the shoulders of Allen to run the ball. He is going to have a very short career unless they can get him some help in the run game.
 
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Bills need RBs. They really need some RBs. too much on the shoulders of Allen to run the ball. He is going to have a very short career unless they can get him some help in the run game.

Yeah, they're a bruising rb away. Also, why rush Mahomes at the end? Drop 9 or 10 back. Who cares if he runs at that point. Make a completion hard and time consuming. Agree about the squib kick earlier to take time off.
 
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whatever format the go with, you need to have both teams have a chance with the ball. Even the college format has that going for it. Nobody wants the coin flip to be the key factor. If Buffalo wins the flip, then they probably win the game. great game, but Bills deserved a better shot.

Actually, the Bill did not play the last 13 seconds right. kick off needs to be long grounder and force time consumed on the run. That would have taken probably 5 seconds. If they keep them inside the 30, that would have created a nearly impossible hurdle for the Chiefs.
If KC is well coached, they take a knee immediately, which would only cost KC a second or two. Regardless, I agree that Buffalo should have tried to make KC return the kick from within the 15 or so with a line drive or squib kick. Anything to take seconds and hopefully yards away from PM and his great receivers. Buffalo’s defense was gassed.
 
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As a Bills fan, this makes me sick that the team could not hold for 13 seconds. Epic coaching failure. Should taint Leslie Frazier as a HC candidate. Also Daboll and calling run plays with Josh Allen in the second half that failed. Throw the damn ball, no one was able to cover Davis.
 
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As a Bills fan, this makes me sick that the team could not hold for 13 seconds. Epic coaching failure. Should taint Leslie Frazier as a HC candidate. Also Daboll and calling run plays with Josh Allen in the second half that failed. Throw the damn ball, no one was able to cover Davis.
Sorry man. Heartbreaker.
 

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This loss, to me, is as heartbreaking as the wide right FG in their first Super Bowl. Mind boggling decisions with 13 damn seconds left. The defense said, “hey take as much yardage as you need”. KC kept an extra back in for protection too. Make Mahomes run around and burn the clock. McDermott has a lot of explaining to do. Also kick the ball on the ground on the kickoff. Hill wasn’t back for that kick. Ironic that record breaker, Gabe Davis, wears number 13 and that was the number that also killed the Bills Super Bowl dreams.
 

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How does the NFL continue to see how bad the OT format is and continues to not significantly change it? Most important coinflip in NFL history
Now don't hold me to this but somewhere, someone said it's the first coin toss Josh Allen has lost in the last ten tosses.

Anyway, I think the current OT rule is just fine. Think about it. All game long you strategize, using your defense to stop the opposing offense. You either have the defense to stop it or you don't. Let the cream rise to the top, the wheat separates from the chaff. Let the best team win. Why prolong the inevitable. That **** show we had against Illinois is not the way to go. Moreover, here's the thing about any rule change. The incentive is to change so it works in your favor in the short-term, but sooner than later the change jumps up and bites you in the @ss. Then you'll want another change. It's a self-fulfilling prophesy. It's sort of like eliminating Senate filibuster or packing the SCOTUS. Or I should say it's exactly like it. What beat the Bills was two consecutive passing plays for +20 yards each, in less than 15 seconds.
 
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Now don't hold me to this but somewhere, someone said it's the first coin toss Josh Allen has lost in the last ten tosses.

Anyway, I think the current OT rule is just fine. Think about it. All game long you strategize, using your defense to stop the opposing offense. You either have the defense to stop it or you don't. Let the cream rise to the top, the wheat separates from the chaff. Let the best team win. Why prolong the inevitable. That **** show we had against Illinois is not the way to go. Moreover, here's the thing about any rule change. The incentive is to change so it works in your favor in the short-term, but sooner than later the change jumps up and bite you in the @ss. It's sort of like Senate filibuster.
When neither defense can stop the other teams offense (like last night), how can you find out about the best team winning when one teams offense doesn't even get a chance to see the field in overtime?
 

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When neither defense can stop the other teams offense (like last night), how can you find out about the best team winning when one teams offense doesn't even get a chance to see the field in overtime?
So you would have them play ad infinitum? My gut feeling is this. Had Buffalo won the toss the KC defense would've stopped them. The best team won. So what's the issue.

Again, allowing two consecutive receptions of +20 yards each in less than 15 seconds is what beat the Bills, not a coin toss.

Oh and BTW, why didn't Buffalo squib kick it in regular time? Forcing KC to field that kickoff would've condensed the game to one final play.
 

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whatever format the go with, you need to have both teams have a chance with the ball. Even the college format has that going for it. Nobody wants the coin flip to be the key factor. If Buffalo wins the flip, then they probably win the game. great game, but Bills deserved a better shot.

Actually, the Bill did not play the last 13 seconds right. kick off needs to be long grounder and force time consumed on the run. That would have taken probably 5 seconds. If they keep them inside the 30, that would have created a nearly impossible hurdle for the Chiefs.
+1. What was the point of blasting the kick through the endzone?
 

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My proposal…a “Name that tune” style bargaining session at midfield to determine what yard line a team will get the ball to start OT (you could even keep the rule where the game can’t end when the first team kicks a FG)…rather than kickoff, Buffalo says “we’ll take the ball at the 20”, KC says “we’ll take it at the 19”…would you rather start OT with the ball at your own 5, or the other team at their own 6…add more strategy, and find a scenario that works for both teams (maybe last night was crazy enough that you’d take the ball at your own 1, but under normal circumstances, you wouldn’t I’d assume.
 
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My proposal…a “Name that tune” style bargaining session at midfield to determine what yard line a team will get the ball to start OT (you could even keep the rule where the game can’t end when the first team kicks a FG)…rather than kickoff, Buffalo says “we’ll take the ball at the 20”, KC says “we’ll take it at the 19”…would you rather start OT with the ball at your own 5, or the other team at their own 6…add more strategy, and find a scenario that works for both teams (maybe last night was crazy enough that you’d take the ball at your own 1, but under normal circumstances, you wouldn’t I’d assume.
That only works if you add big fans and sprinklers.
 

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If KC is well coached, they take a knee immediately, which would only cost KC a second or two. Regardless, I agree that Buffalo should have tried to make KC return the kick from within the 15 or so with a line drive or squib kick. Anything to take seconds and hopefully yards away from PM and his great receivers. Buffalo’s defense was gassed.
I think the mortar kick would be better than a squib. Try to kick it high and land it inside the 10 yd line. Then KC has to fair catch (kind of like you said - same as taking a knee) inside the 10, or they try to return it and run off 3 to 5 seconds. With a high booming kick, the chance of a big return is diminished. But yes, anything to take time/yards away. Taking no time away and giving it to KC on the 25 was a mistake.

Edit: Oh, and hold the KC receivers at the LOS on the first play. The NFL made a rule that penalizes this, including adding time back on the clock, but I think you can get away with it once. 5 yard penalty for holding and 3 to 5 secs run off the clock.
 
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