Do the CFP byes make teams rusty?

[QuaoarsKing]

Last year, all 4 teams with a bye lost in the quarterfinals.

Maybe Ohio State will come back and win today, but as of right now they at least came out flat. They probably wish they'd gotten a tune-up against Tulane.

If we see a repeat of last year or even if 2 of them lose and the other 2 are unexpectedly close, you have to figure we'll go to 16 teams next year and give everyone a first round game.

 

[RocketDawg]

Yes, I think so. For us, it seems like we're always rusty after just one week off during the season.

 

[patdog]

Still too early to tell. Last year 2 of the 4 clearly didn’t deserve a bye. So far this year OSU hasn’t looked impressive all year & Miami was one of the preseason favorite to win it all but stubbed their toe a couple of times, much like OSU last year. But I really don’t like the whole concept of byes in the playoffs. I really hope Georgia isn’t rusty.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

Teams with a bye now 0-5. We'll see how tomorrow goes, but if it's not 3-5 in 24 hours, I think there's a real chance of 16 teams next year.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

Answer: Yes. 0-6. Hopefully Indiana and Georgia will end the jinx.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

Texas tech just looks like they have no clue on offense.

Their D has not been rusty.

 

[Perd Hapley]

Answer: Yes. 0-6. Hopefully Indiana and Georgia will end the jinx.

I still think this is an overblown narrative.

Last year’s 0-4 doesn’t mean anything. The byes weren’t even the best 4 teams. In fact, I think all the top 4 seeds last year were underdogs in the quarterfinals.

This year, Oregon was favored over Texas Tech. Bye had nothing to do with it.

Miami over Ohio State was a bit of a surprise, but really shouldn’t have been….Ohio State had no big wins all year, just a really soft schedule. Best win was freaking Texas at home.

 

[Dawgzilla2]

Cignetti has already complained about the format and layoff caused by the BYE. As long as UGA bucks the trend, Im fine with it.

I wouldnt be surprised to see the second round moved to campus of the top seeds, though.

 

[FlotownDawg]

The whole thing should be on campuses. It’s ridiculous that Oregon traveled to Miami for the quarterfinal and Atlanta for the semifinal. It would be like the 49ers and Eagles playing for the NFC Championship in New Orleans. Absolutely absurd.

 

[Perd Hapley]

Still too early to tell. Last year 2 of the 4 clearly didn’t deserve a bye. So far this year OSU hasn’t looked impressive all year & Miami was one of the preseason favorite to win it all but stubbed their toe a couple of times, much like OSU last year. But I really don’t like the whole concept of byes in the playoffs. I really hope Georgia isn’t rusty.

Right. Last year 2 of 4 didn’t deserve the bye, and predictably lost. A 3rd team (UGA) did deserve the bye, but lost their QB in the conference championship which made them an underdog in the matchup against ND. The 4th team was Oregon, who drew an Ohio State team that they got very lucky to beat at home by 3 points in the regular season. They were underdogs at a neutral site, and lost.

Miami over Ohio State this year has been the only outcome that was even semi-surprising. But the fact is that Ohio State was simply overrated all year….and that’s easy to see now in hindsight.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

Something like this would be such an easy fix:

• Autobid to every P4 champion. Only 1 bid for the G5, which is a reward for the overall #1 team
• 2 of each seed so that's there no possibilities of a rematch before the final 4.
• Campus sites until the finals.
• No real controversy over who's left out. Utah is the first team out, and nobody cares when it's down that low.
• Finishes by the first Saturday of January.

 

[FlotownDawg]

Something like this would be such an easy fix:

• Autobid to every P4 champion. Only 1 bid for the G5, which is a reward for the overall #1 team
• 2 of each seed so that's there no possibilities of a rematch before the final 4.
• Campus sites until the finals.
• No real controversy over who's left out. Utah is the first team out, and nobody cares when it's down that low.
• Finishes by the first Saturday of January.

That makes so much sense that it will never happen.

 

[The Peeper]

Yes, I think so. For us, it seems like we're always rusty after just one week off during the season.

We've been rusty for 3 consecutive seasons

 

[The Peeper]

The whole thing should be on campuses. It’s ridiculous that Oregon traveled to Miami for the quarterfinal and Atlanta for the semifinal. It would be like the 49ers and Eagles playing for the NFC Championship in New Orleans. Absolutely absurd.

That's the price they pay for living in "the land of fruits and nuts"

 

[RocketDawg]

Cignetti has already complained about the format and layoff caused by the BYE. As long as UGA bucks the trend, Im fine with it.

I wouldnt be surprised to see the second round moved to campus of the top seeds, though.

Should be on campus but too much money for the big bowls and towns would be lost. Plus, a couple of playoff teams have really small stadiums. But they'd be sold out (much like Oxford was).

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Maybe, but what it overwhelmingly tells me is that the top seeds are not the best teams. And I’m ok with that honestly, those top seeds still deserve a reward for their season.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

The whole thing should be on campuses. It’s ridiculous that Oregon traveled to Miami for the quarterfinal and Atlanta for the semifinal. It would be like the 49ers and Eagles playing for the NFC Championship in New Orleans. Absolutely absurd.

They could mitigate that by allowing the higher seed to choose among the bowl locations. There’s still be travel but not as much.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

They could mitigate that by allowing the higher seed to choose among the bowl locations. There’s still be travel but not as much.

First two rounds are hosted by the schools.

 

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

Indiana doesn’t seem to be rusty

 

[Perd Hapley]

Indiana doesn’t seem to be rusty

My guess is that UGA won’t be, either.

 

[patdog]

Indiana doesn’t seem to be rusty

Most of the bye team losses weren’t rust. They were simple the better team winning. Maybe all of them.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

Call it whatever you want (there's probably a different explanation for each loss), but teams with a bye are now 1-7 in the quarterfinal games. Both the Big 10 and SEC officially support expansion to 16, and you have to think they'll get it done by next year.

 

[onewoof]

It's not good for the major programs to win with the current state of college football.

 

[olblue]

It's not good for the major programs to win with the current state of college football.

So now that it is official that your emotions got the best of you and that you got it all wrong, the games are fixed?

Again, bat **** crazy.

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

A bye in almost any other playoff situation is maxed out at 14 days. When you get into the 20s you could be turning off the bodies preparedness. When it was just a single bowl game both teams were in the same state. It seemed to take OSU and Tech a half to get going. Cignetti is so intense maybe he works them harder than other coaches.

 

[onewoof]

So now that it is official that your emotions got the best of you and that you got it all wrong, the games are fixed?

Again, bat **** crazy.

You have to be blind with bias to not see the play calling of Georgia in the 4th quarter. Go watch it again. Then discuss why Georgia got the help of the officials bogus PI's to get the field goal. Tell me why Georgia didn't score a TD to go ahead, I'll listen and laugh at you.

Yes, Georgia and Ohio State just "got beat" fair and square. OM had to beat both Georgia and the officials

And yes college football and NIL is healthy and thriving without any tinkering with the playoffs. Good Lord. The NFL is totally free from influence as well. It's true if you believe it.

 

[8dog]

Last year, all 4 teams with a bye lost in the quarterfinals.

Maybe Ohio State will come back and win today, but as of right now they at least came out flat. They probably wish they'd gotten a tune-up against Tulane.

If we see a repeat of last year or even if 2 of them lose and the other 2 are unexpectedly close, you have to figure we'll go to 16 teams next year and give everyone a first round game.

In fairness last year 2 of the teams were just inferior.

 

[RocketDawg]

You have to be blind with bias to not see the play calling of Georgia in the 4th quarter. Go watch it again. Then discuss why Georgia got the help of the officials bogus PI's to get the field goal. Tell me why Georgia didn't score a TD to go ahead, I'll listen and laugh at you.

Yes, Georgia and Ohio State just "got beat" fair and square. OM had to beat both Georgia and the officials

And yes college football and NIL is healthy and thriving without any tinkering with the playoffs. Good Lord. The NFL is totally free from influence as well. It's true if you believe it.

There's really no other way to say it - OM bested Georgia last night, by a long shot. The PIs might have been valid, but the officials had let them get away with it all night, so why start enforcing in the last minute or two, and against only one team?

Possibly because it was desirable, maybe mandatory, to have a big-name team in the semi-finals and finals instead of one that's virtually unknown and is frequently confused with their in-state rival. It didn't work. The only redeeming factor is Trinidad himself.

 

[FlotownDawg]

You have to be blind with bias to not see the play calling of Georgia in the 4th quarter. Go watch it again. Then discuss why Georgia got the help of the officials bogus PI's to get the field goal. Tell me why Georgia didn't score a TD to go ahead, I'll listen and laugh at you.

Yes, Georgia and Ohio State just "got beat" fair and square. OM had to beat both Georgia and the officials

And yes college football and NIL is healthy and thriving without any tinkering with the playoffs. Good Lord. The NFL is totally free from influence as well. It's true if you believe it.

But you said it was scripted to go into overtime and it didn’t. So was it scripted or not?

 

[onewoof]

But you said it was scripted to go into overtime and it didn’t. So was it scripted or not?

It was, to be close. Georgia had control of that. Both teams don't have to be in on it, you do realize that right?

Why was there no facemask call with two officials watching that play?

 

[FlotownDawg]

It was, to be close. Georgia had control of that. Both teams don't have to be in on it, you do realize that right?

So Georgia was in on the fix, but Ole Miss wasn't. Why would Georgia and all their players and coaches, agree to that? Surely you're just trolling. Why were the other playoff games not fixed to be close? The Oregon-Texas Tech game was about the most boring game I've ever watched and the Rose Bowl was an absolute beatdown. Do you believe in chemtrails too?

 

[patdog]

In fairness last year 2 of the teams were just inferior.

A couple of the ones this year were too. Looking at you Texas Tech.

 

[onewoof]

So Georgia was in on the fix, but Ole Miss wasn't. Why would Georgia and all their players and coaches, agree to that? Surely you're just trolling. Why were the other playoff games not fixed to be close? The Oregon-Texas Tech game was about the most boring game I've ever watched and the Rose Bowl was an absolute beatdown. Do you believe in chemtrails too?

The Georgia coaching staff, officials. But ignore the obvious WTH penalties and the WTH play calls by Georgia. Just enjoy the game.

 

[Perd Hapley]

Call it whatever you want (there's probably a different explanation for each loss), but teams with a bye are now 1-7 in the quarterfinal games. Both the Big 10 and SEC officially support expansion to 16, and you have to think they'll get it done by next year.

We already knew 16 was coming. Only question if its next year, or the year after?

As far as byes are concerned, I think you could only say it potentially played a factor in last year’s Oregon-Ohio State game, and this year’s Ohio State-Miami game. But how much it played a factor in each could be negligible. All other games operated well within the range of likely outcomes.