Do we really need Mayhem?

kired

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Comparing our defense to Missouri, Auburn, and South Carolina (league leaders in sack & TFL, and all ranked in the top 15). There are some obvious differences, such as Missouri & Auburn play more snaps each game and we have had the easiest SOS to date. But the overall averages (total yards & points) are suprising similar.

Would more aggression really change anything? I think more than anything our poor tackling has led to the higher rush yard / carry. A better job of tackling and that probably comes down 10-20 yards per game (more in line with Auburn & South Carolina).

missouri
auburn
s. car
msu
sacks
25
20
17
9
TFL
61
61
59
43
INT
15
9
6
5
takeaways
21
12
11
10
rush yrd / gm
111
140
145
146
rush yrd / att
3.4
4.0
4.0
4.4
rush TD
6
11
10
12
pass yrd / gm
284
266
205
213
pass yrd / att
6.5
7.3
7.4
6.7
pass TD148127
completion %
62%
57%
58%
62%
total yards
395
406
350
359
yards / play
5.17
5.67
5.47
5.51
plays / game
76.5
71.5
64
65.1
score / game
22.8
20.5
22.9
22.9
SOS rank
29
51
11
58

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msudawg12

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Dec 9, 2008
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Yall all keep forgetting

Our defense has been stellar right up until the offense decides to suck. Then the defense ends up on the field for 11 mins a quarter and starts giving up points. Our defensive woes stem from the offenses ineffectiveness
 

thatsbaseball

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May 29, 2007
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Last time I`m posting this I swear but it`s a telling stat

"Dan Mullen has never had a fourth quarter comeback in his MSU coaching career. Opponents are 22-0 against MSU when they have the lead going into the final quarter. MSU is 28-2 in Mullen's career in Starkville when the Bulldogs have a lead going into the fourth quarter. "

The defense holding a 4th quarter lead 28 out of 30 times we`ve had one says volumes....as does not one single come from behind victory in the 4th quarter in the 22 games we`ve trailed going in. Both stats are so extreme it`s almost hard to believe they belong to the same team simultaneously.
 

maroonmania

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Feb 23, 2008
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"Dan Mullen has never had a fourth quarter comeback in his MSU coaching career. Opponents are 22-0 against MSU when they have the lead going into the final quarter. MSU is 28-2 in Mullen's career in Starkville when the Bulldogs have a lead going into the fourth quarter. "

The defense holding a 4th quarter lead 28 out of 30 times we`ve had one says volumes....as does not one single come from behind victory in the 4th quarter in the 22 games we`ve trailed going in. Both stats are so extreme it`s almost hard to believe they belong to the same team simultaneously.

So apparently under Mullen we give such relentless effort over the first 3 quarters that there is nothing left in the tank for a 4th quarter comeback when needed.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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More aggression would make me feel a little better

I like a D that will make things happen. Potentially cause more turnovers.

Hell with what we have left on the schedule, I'd like to stir the pot, and make some things happen, not just see what happens.

Just what the 17 do we have to lose?
 

Shamoan

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for the teams on the remaining schedule, save arkansas, we have to increase pressure for us to even have a chance. if we do our read and react ********, we are going to be eaten alive. simple as that. we have to flip the script. i have little doubt at this point that collins will dig his own grave. yes we have slowly progressed into a more aggressive defense, but we still are not what i would consider aggressive. we are pretty pedestrian by anyone not named jesse palmer and nobody will confuse us with a defense that leaves offenses quaking in our wake.

collins has peaked on the season. things will only get worse with bama, aTm, usc, and ole miss still to go. its sink or swim time, but nothing i have seen would make me think things will change and the defense will turn a new leaf. welcome to 5-7 and a significantly worse defense than what we had last year...keep in mind how bad our pass defense was with both banks and slay, so their impact is negligible.

im not interested in debating this a 100th time, as i see things, its an inevitability and an inconvenient and impassible truth that each and every one of us will realize at some point over the next 2 seasons. im stating what i see will become fact. so far, i have been correct in saying that collins is no better than wilson, so if people want to argue semantics about how bad it is, im NOT your huckleberry, just a voice of reality. its your choice of whether or not you want to bring reason into the equation. collins is failing to improve the defense...how is that for undeniable truth?
 
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IF we give relentless effort, we will execute the mayhem

blah ******* blah.....every time i hear any coach say execute, i feel as if I'm being lied to