That his termination was unfair?
BGJ served 12 years in the role and had a lot of success?
BGJ served 12 years in the role and had a lot of success?
Do you agree with Franklin and Saban?
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It could have been handled better.
It was both unfair and necessary.
Entirely fair, especially when you consider that BGJ collected over $75 million over the last 12 years and is still owed another $50 million. PSU Football Inc is a business and the CEO was rightfully terminated.
And if Krafty Kraft effs up the hiring of a replacement, he too should be fired.
And if Krafty Kraft effs up the hiring of a replacement, he too should be fired.
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You do not go around your boss and ask for a raise never ends well. You also listen to your boss and come to an agreement on handling whatever is he wanted to do.
I was thinking yesterday about how much of the goodwill a coach like Franklin would normally have been afforded was never given him by the fanbase because he spent so many years threatening to leave for USC.
Hopefully you are being sarcastic. He never threatened to go to USC.
No! He had 4 opportunities in the last season and a half to stop the “Big Game James” narrative! If he even goes even 1-3 against Oregon, Ohio State or Notre Dame he is still here. He was well compensated, given plenty of resources and support and just couldn’t get over the hump. He lost the team this year and if reports are true tried to backdoor his boss. This isn’t the 70’s, 80’s or 90’s. Coaching salaries have exploded. I’m a capitalist so that is fine but if you are going to command that type of $ you have to take the good with the bad! He wasn’t being paid 7-8 million a year to go 1-10 against Ohio State. A diminished Joe Paterno went 7-13 against them in the Big Ten. Not great but at least he beat them once every three years.
It was unfair. Franklin scammed Penn State out of $50 million. He is a great salesman and he sold himself to an administration dumb enough to buy it just like a used car salesman would sell a lemon at a ridiculous price. It's wasn't 'fair' if you consider fair providing decent value for the price but that's the contract. Life isn't fair.
Someone should’ve asked Saban how long he would have lasted at Bama with a 4-21 record vs top ten opponents
Whoa. Who’s the boss? Last I knew CJF answered to the president and not the AD AD was there to get his coffee in the morning make sure the copy machine wasn’t out of paper
$7-$8 million didn’t even put him in the top 10 of coaching salaries…he’s not as high paid as many make him out to be. He made less than Mark Stoops…compare results.
You must have not followed the team prior to his current contract.
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I know about being Fair.
But this is not about fairness. It's about what was best for the program and the firing was not. No interim coach could turn the season around. Only Franklin could do that. He should have been given the chance.
But this is not about fairness. It's about what was best for the program and the firing was not. No interim coach could turn the season around. Only Franklin could do that. He should have been given the chance.
Was it unfair for big game James to quit Vanderbilt and poach their recruits? I'm sure they were not happy when that happened. When the same inadequate coaching performance happens for more than a decade it's bound to happen. It's just business
Sure. What isn’t fair is Franklin and Saban and their agent getting him on GameDay to frame this as solely a PSU issue, and not a Franklin issue - which it was in a very big way. Franklin had a good run and ‘this was the year’ until it wasn’t. At some point you have to take the blame, especially when his hand picked highest paid coordinating duo in the world failed massively.
It’s like being out in the middle of a lake in a row boat, deciding you need new oars so you throw the ones you have into the water. Not a smart move.I know about being Fair.
But this is not about fairness. It's about what was best for the program and the firing was not. No interim coach could turn the season around. Only Franklin could do that. He should have been given the chance.
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Only told half the story in that gameday silliness.
Please show us where Franklin said it was unfair. Saban said it, Franklin did not.
I wish my boss would treat me that “unfairly” with that type of buy out. He was given ever chance to get us over the hump and failed every time and his agent which he would have had to agree with constantly floated other jobs out there to leverage PSU and Saban would have been gone from ‘Bama if he had Franklins record against the big boys of the SEC.
So if you were coming off your best year ever as an employee, started the new year off slow and got fired, you would think that was fair?
It wasn’t a 3-game decision.
This is big time college football! Not a day at the office. If you are the CEO and the company tanks you lose your job it’s that simple. 3-3 based on the totality of the circumstances is not a slow start. It’s an absolute train wreck.
Look how depleted this roster is talent wise at DL, LB and WR. Regardless of what JF believes he wasn't turning it around this year or next year. Don't even get me started on his awful coordinator hires. Drew has his faults, but I believe AK's system wasn't suited for him. That's on JF. The OL is pretty much garbage too, but they at least have their good moments.
Yes, slow, they were 3-0 and ranked #3. Then lost three…that’s slow, not a disaster. Starting off 0-6 would have been as bad as some are making it out to be.
No it’s not. Going 0-6 or 1-5 and getting blown out in all the games is a train wreck. Let’s try to keep it in perspective.
If you tell your employer you are going to hit certain employment metrics, that employer gives you all the tools necessary to do so, and you fail the meet those expectations, do you deserve more pay? If you sit down with your boss to request a pay raise, and your boss lays out expectations you must meet to get the raise, should you go above his head to get what you want? If you're a manager, and the talented people you manage underperform and lack inspiration, should your boss keep you in place in the hopes that things may change?
If you’re the manager and you have no one else to do the job until next year, do you fire him then or ride out the year and then replace him?
In some ways I think it was unfair, but in others I honestly think it was merciful to just rip the band-aid off right now. Franklin (and unfortunately his family) would have had to endure the ever-growing negativity and vitriol from the fanbase at every slightest misstep the rest of the season.
I supported Franklin until the end, but given the expectations this season I think even his final two losses by themselves qualify as a train wreck.
No, they didn’t. Firing Franklin at this time served no purpose whatsoever. The only thing it did was make PSU look bad.
Both of those teams are actually looking like pretty decent teams. Losing one of the first three would have been more of a train wreck.
The implied word in that phrase was it wasn’t “solely” a three-game decision. The three losses were of course the final deciding factor but by no means were they the entire scope of what led to the decision.
Saban’s comments remind of how Tom Izzo seemingly always praises the litany of PSU hoops coaches after he routinely has beaten them by whatever score he wanted. It’s so patronizing and condescending. I wonder if Saban, or Izzo for that matter, would speak so glowingly about a PSU coach if said coach routinely beat their Bama or MSU teams. It’s easy to like another coach when that coach isn’t a serious threat to you.