Do you agree with Franklin and Saban?

Ludd

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The implied word in that phrase was it wasn’t “solely” a three-game decision. The three losses were of course the final deciding factor but by no means were they the entire scope of what led to the decision.
It was Kraft trying to show he had the bigger d!ck. He hasn’t exactly proven that he’s the all world AD he thinks he is, so we’ll see how it ends up.
 
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donaldfair71

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Saban’s comments remind of how Tom Izzo seemingly always praises the litany of PSU hoops coaches after he routinely has beaten them by whatever score he wanted. It’s so patronizing and condescending. I wonder if Saban, or Izzo for that matter, would speak so glowingly about a PSU coach if said coach routinely beat their Bama or MSU teams. It’s easy to like another coach when that coach isn’t a serious threat to you.
Saban and Franklin share an agent, and the interview was a PR move for Franklin.
Complete nothingburger.
 

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It could have been handled better.
Much, much better; but fans had turned the environment toxic so Kraft had little choice. It is unsustainable, even if James delivered 10 and 2 seasons, to bring in recruits and donors and have the fans behave like they did.
 
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donaldfair71

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Much, much better; but fans had turned the environment toxic so Kraft had little choice. It is unsustainable, even if James delivered 10 and 2 seasons, to bring in recruits and donors and have the fans behave like they did.
The bargain the fanbase accepted was lose to the 1 or 2 best teams on the schedule. In return, beat everyone else.
Once that compromise was breached, and losing to UCLA, NW, etc was in play, there was no need for him and everyone saw it.
Like you said, it just got too toxic.
 

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You must have not followed the team prior to his current contract.






So the press saying that is Franklin threatening to go to USC? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Please put link in your next post thst shows the words coming out of Franklin’s mouth saying if PSU doesn’t give me what I am going to USC.
 

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No! He had 4 opportunities in the last season and a half to stop the “Big Game James” narrative! If he even goes even 1-3 against Oregon, Ohio State or Notre Dame he is still here. He was well compensated, given plenty of resources and support and just couldn’t get over the hump. He lost the team this year and if reports are true tried to backdoor his boss. This isn’t the 70’s, 80’s or 90’s. Coaching salaries have exploded. I’m a capitalist so that is fine but if you are going to command that type of $ you have to take the good with the bad! He wasn’t being paid 7-8 million a year to go 1-10 against Ohio State. A diminished Joe Paterno went 7-13 against them in the Big Ten. Not great but at least he beat them once every three years.
 

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No! He had 4 opportunities in the last season and a half to stop the “Big Game James” narrative! If he even goes even 1-3 against Oregon, Ohio State or Notre Dame he is still here. He was well compensated, given plenty of resources and support and just couldn’t get over the hump. He lost the team this year and if reports are true tried to backdoor his boss. This isn’t the 70’s, 80’s or 90’s. Coaching salaries have exploded. I’m a capitalist so that is fine but if you are going to command that type of $ you have to take the good with the bad! He wasn’t being paid 7-8 million a year to go 1-10 against Ohio State. A diminished Joe Paterno went 7-13 against them in the Big Ten. Not great but at least he beat them once every three years.
Paterno was 9-13 all time vs OSU it would have taken franklin 100 year to get as many wins as Paterno vs OSU with his 1-10 pace.
 
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So the press saying that is Franklin threatening to go to USC? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Please put link in your next post thst shows the words coming out of Franklin’s mouth saying if PSU doesn’t give me what I am going to USC.
Dude come on. I guess he was linked to that job by everyone everywhere in every report about it because he and his agent didn’t want it to be leveraged for the huge 10 year contract he got fromPSU.

I swear some of you live in Barbie World.
 

psuno1

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Whoa. Who’s the boss? Last I knew CJF answered to the president and not the AD AD was there to get his coffee in the morning make sure the copy machine wasn’t out of paper
Well the President did not fire his A$$ last Sunday it was Kraft.
 
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Bob78

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As Rick Neuheisal says, 'Fair is where you give a blue ribbon to a pig'.
Ain't nothing fair about the world of big time sports, whether professional or prollegiate. Deliver or get put on the hot seat. If the school admin says they are reaching for the highest point, they tell everyone that their coaches will be the ones to get them there. We saw, repeatedly, James' ceiling, which was a notch below. That, plus, the back door trip to Neeli over a renegotiation, made the seat unbearably hot.
Gotta make a big move early to get ahead of the search. There will be a lot of big-time jobs open this fall. Don’t wait around.
 

razpsu

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It’s like being out in the middle of a lake in a tow boat, deciding you need new oars so you throw the ones you have into the water. Not a smart move.
He was. We still would have lost if Franklin was there last night. Dare I say we did better and were more free to execute without him.
 
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Brian Kelly now rumored to be on the hot seat at lsu…he’s a New England dude totally out of place in Dixie…I can see him fitting nicely at psu

Maybe penn state and lsu can trade…circumvent buyouts...a head coaches transfer portal
 
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According to the press, Franklin was going to every job that came around.
All these transactions are done by third parties so that the coach can maintain deniability. Urban Meyer explained how it works on the latest Fox CFB podcast. In this example Jimmy Sexton was floating Franklin's name to USC and USC was showing interest via a third party contact. Then behind the scenes Sexton is able to pressure Barbour into another contract extension for Franklin. James can deny that he ever spoke to USC
 

Ludd

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All these transactions are done by third parties so that the coach can maintain deniability. Urban Meyer explained how it works on the latest Fox CFB podcast. In this example Jimmy Sexton was floating Franklin's name to USC and USC was showing interest via a third party contact. Then behind the scenes Sexton is able to pressure Barbour into another contract extension for Franklin. James can deny that he ever spoke to USC
That doesn’t mean Franklin was ever going to USC or anywhere else.
 
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Catch1lion

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Much, much better; but fans had turned the environment toxic so Kraft had little choice. It is unsustainable, even if James delivered 10 and 2 seasons, to bring in recruits and donors and have the fans behave like they did.
Fans or the big donor oligarchs?
 
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KingLando

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Life isn't fair. Who cares if it was fair?
That said, Franklin knew it was over. There's no doubt he was told he had to make the playoff this year when they committed the money he wanted for his staff.
Franklin claiming he was shocked is laughable
 

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Brian Kelly now rumored to be on the hot seat at lsu…he’s a New England dude totally out of place in Dixie…I can see him fitting nicely at psu

Maybe penn state and lsu can trade…circumvent buyouts...a head coaches transfer portal
He is a good coach but is 63. Never cared for his personality but he has won at something like 6 different stops over the years.
 

Midnighter

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So the press saying that is Franklin threatening to go to USC? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Please put link in your next post thst shows the words coming out of Franklin’s mouth saying if PSU doesn’t give me what I am going to USC.

Nate and others have hinted that it was more than that. Recall this was right before the big loss to Illinois in 8OTs; we lose and he gets the extension. Think PSU was in too deep before USC decided Franklin wasn’t a good fit.
 
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KingLando

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Coaches all use other openings for raises even if they have zero intention of leaving. They'd be idiots not to do that. It's up to the AD to call their bluff.