Do you support war with Iran?

Do you support war with Iran?

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    Votes: 5 55.6%
  • No

    Votes: 4 44.4%

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cam_blev

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Please say you didn't just say that ...holy ****.
Americans died on American soil because we let terrorists in .... go play with fake money..
The fact that going to war with Iran will directly lead to more Americans (and we aren't just talking military, we are talking civilians on US soil) dying than if not is just one example of why this war is not "America First"
 

Gunny46

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The fact that going to war with Iran will directly lead to more Americans (and we aren't just talking military, we are talking civilians on US soil) dying than if not is just one example of why this war is not "America First"

Iran's Leadership and the CCP are already at war with us. The sooner you get there the easier it is to understand what has happened the past few decades on our soil and what is happening now.
 

SoCo

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The fact that going to war with Iran will directly lead to more Americans (and we aren't just talking military, we are talking civilians on US soil) dying than if not is just one example of why this war is not "America First"
Surely you recognize a difference between Iran parking a ship off our coast or Iranian planes bombing US soil vs immigrants/people who have been living among us and wanting to kill us committing acts of terror, no?

This is just playing into trumps hand. More and more Americans will back Trump if the American casualties result from the A-holes already here. It exposes what he has been saying for years about immigration.

the difference is you view what happened in Austin as a result of an Iran/military problem. Many of us view it a result of an immigration problem
 

Gunny46

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Surely you recognize a difference between Iran parking a ship off our coast or Iranian planes bombing US soil vs immigrants/people who have been living among us and wanting to kill us committing acts of terror, no?

This is just playing into trumps hand. More and more Americans will back Trump if the American casualties result from the A-holes already here. It exposes what he has been saying for years about immigration.

the difference is you view what happened in Austin as a result of an Iran/military problem. Many of us view it a result of an immigration problem

They have always known they couldn't fight our military with the right leadership. Hence why, they sent terrorist and drugs. Trump is smart enough not to put 600,000 targets on the ground there.
 
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Surely you recognize a difference between Iran parking a ship off our coast or Iranian planes bombing US soil vs immigrants/people who have been living among us and wanting to kill us committing acts of terror, no?

This is just playing into trumps hand. More and more Americans will back Trump if the American casualties result from the A-holes already here. It exposes what he has been saying for years about immigration.

the difference is you view what happened in Austin as a result of an Iran/military problem. Many of us view it a result of an immigration problem
^^^^^^This^^^^^^
 

cam_blev

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Surely you recognize a difference between Iran parking a ship off our coast or Iranian planes bombing US soil vs immigrants/people who have been living among us and wanting to kill us committing acts of terror, no?

This is just playing into trumps hand. More and more Americans will back Trump if the American casualties result from the A-holes already here. It exposes what he has been saying for years about immigration.

the difference is you view what happened in Austin as a result of an Iran/military problem. Many of us view it a result of an immigration problem
You are proving my point, those are 2 things that have never happened and would never happen because Iran knows that would get it whiped off the face of the planet.
This is my point when I say Iran is no threat to the United States of America, there is 0 chance Iran wins a war with the US they cant even get a missile anywhere close. But now US civilians and our young military men will die.

This will end costing trillions of dollars and at the very very least hundreds of US lives and in the end "us" as in the people that live in the US will not see any improvement in our daily lives and things will be more expensive but corporations and ceos will be much rich and the White House will be telling us the DOW is at all time highs,
 

SoCo

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You are proving my point, those are 2 things that have never happened and would never happen because Iran knows that would get it whiped off the face of the planet.
This is my point when I say Iran is no threat to the United States of America, there is 0 chance Iran wins a war with the US they cant even get a missile anywhere close. But now US civilians and our young military men will die.

This will end costing trillions of dollars and at the very very least hundreds of US lives and in the end "us" as in the people that live in the US will not see any improvement in our daily lives and things will be more expensive but corporations and ceos will be much rich and the White House will be telling us the DOW is at all time highs,
Exactly. Iran can’t beat the US militarily so they have to rely on the Muslims living here to commit acts of terror in the United States. They need to go. Like I said Austin is a result of failed immigration policies.

now that you know they are here, have been living with us for years and want us dead, don’t you think it is appropriate to get them out since this is the only way they can fight back?

also, 9/11 and the MN Xmas parade attack weren’t direct results of any us military action. I can list dozens of attacks which weren’t the resukt of any direct us military action. They want us dead for being us. They have proven that over the last 50 years
 
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Gunny46

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You are proving my point, those are 2 things that have never happened and would never happen because Iran knows that would get it whiped off the face of the planet.
This is my point when I say Iran is no threat to the United States of America, there is 0 chance Iran wins a war with the US they cant even get a missile anywhere close. But now US civilians and our young military men will die.

This will end costing trillions of dollars and at the very very least hundreds of US lives and in the end "us" as in the people that live in the US will not see any improvement in our daily lives and things will be more expensive but corporations and ceos will be much rich and the White House will be telling us the DOW is at all time highs,
 

atlkvb

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You are proving my point, those are 2 things that have never happened and would never happen because Iran knows that would get it whiped off the face of the planet.
This is my point when I say Iran is no threat to the United States of America, there is 0 chance Iran wins a war with the US they cant even get a missile anywhere close. But now US civilians and our young military men will die.

This will end costing trillions of dollars and at the very very least hundreds of US lives and in the end "us" as in the people that live in the US will not see any improvement in our daily lives and things will be more expensive but corporations and ceos will be much rich and the White House will be telling us the DOW is at all time highs,
 

atlkvb

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Here 'ya go @cam_blev ...just for you sweetheart! :love:


Iranian Regime’s War on America: Four Decades of Targeting U.S. Forces and Citizens

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Since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, the Iranian regime has waged a sustained campaign of violence against the United States—killing U.S. troops, targeting diplomats and civilians, and plotting attacks on American soil. Using terror proxies such as Lebanon’s Hezbollah and Iraq’s Popular Mobilization Forces - together with ballistic missiles, terror financing, and clandestine activities - Tehran has built a global playbook of violence that spans four decades, all in its efforts to expel the U.S. and reshape the Middle East in its favor.
This is my point when I say Iran is no threat to the United States of America

@cam_blev ...thinking it over....
 
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atlkvb

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The fact that going to war with Iran will directly lead to more Americans (and we aren't just talking military, we are talking civilians on US soil) dying than if not is just one example of why this war is not "America First"

Then kindly explain all of their attacks against us before this so called "war" Trump suddenly started against them according to you? :rolleyes:
 
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atlkvb

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Serious question @cam_blev ...do you think the Iranian Mullahs were joking when they swore their lives to Israel's and America's destruction?


Iran's Supreme Leader vows "Death to America"

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Iran’s Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei praised the nation's boldness in standing up to what he called global arrogance, a term mainly referring to the United States.

"The Iranian nation has the courage to say, 'Death to America,'" Khamenei told an audience gathered at his headquarters on Sunday.
Noting that Iran is not alone in the global struggle against oppressive powers, he said, “The difference between the Iranian nation and others is that it has the courage to say this reality that America is aggressive, a liar, a deceiver, and a colonialist and is not committed to any of the principles of humanity; therefore, it says 'Death to America,' but others do not have the courage to express these truths and stand against America and fulfill their share in the fight against arrogance.”

Hey....@cam_blev
 
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moe

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Kuwaitis shooting our planes down. Need to get that fixed. Trump seeks exit ramp but Iran won't negotiate with him. Oops.
 
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cam_blev

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Here 'ya go @cam_blev ...just for you sweetheart! :love:


Iranian Regime’s War on America: Four Decades of Targeting U.S. Forces and Citizens

excerpt:
Since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, the Iranian regime has waged a sustained campaign of violence against the United States—killing U.S. troops, targeting diplomats and civilians, and plotting attacks on American soil. Using terror proxies such as Lebanon’s Hezbollah and Iraq’s Popular Mobilization Forces - together with ballistic missiles, terror financing, and clandestine activities - Tehran has built a global playbook of violence that spans four decades, all in its efforts to expel the U.S. and reshape the Middle East in its favor.


@cam_blev ...thinking it over....

Here 'ya go @cam_blev ...just for you sweetheart! :love:


Iranian Regime’s War on America: Four Decades of Targeting U.S. Forces and Citizens

excerpt:
Since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, the Iranian regime has waged a sustained campaign of violence against the United States—killing U.S. troops, targeting diplomats and civilians, and plotting attacks on American soil. Using terror proxies such as Lebanon’s Hezbollah and Iraq’s Popular Mobilization Forces - together with ballistic missiles, terror financing, and clandestine activities - Tehran has built a global playbook of violence that spans four decades, all in its efforts to expel the U.S. and reshape the Middle East in its favor.


@cam_blev ...thinking it over....
Hom many Americans had they killed on US soil?
and also you are talking about 1979 when they took back their country from our puppet leader we installed in their country after toppling their last regime?
They are such a threat they have been yelling death to our country/regime for 46 years yet they cant get a missile half way to us.


btw im getting really tired of your schizo giphy boomer posting
If you cant make your point using words and logic and have to post pictures and cartoons and 5 messages back to back im just gonna block you
 
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roadtrasheer

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Hom many Americans had they killed on US soil?
and also you are talking about 1979 when they took back their country from our puppet leader we installed in their country after toppling their last regime?
They are such a threat they have been yelling death to our country/regime for 46 years yet they cant get a missile half way to us.


btw im getting really tired of your schizo giphy boomer posting
If you cant make your point using words and logic and have to post pictures and cartoons and 5 messages back to back im just gonna block you
Hitting our soil is not the only issue. They have been costing us lives and money since then .
Iran has been a thorn in the side of peace for decades. Why haven't any Muslim country come to tjere aid?
People are tired of the killing Iran seeks.
Just think of the money that will be saved after this .....well our government will find another way to rob us .....two major political topics will be off the table in 2028 border is closed and Iran should be stabilized by then .
 

cam_blev

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Hitting our soil is not the only issue. They have been costing us lives and money since then .
Iran has been a thorn in the side of peace for decades. Why haven't any Muslim country come to tjere aid?
People are tired of the killing Iran seeks.
Just think of the money that will be saved after this .....well our government will find another way to rob us .....two major political topics will be off the table in 2028 border is closed and Iran should be stabilized by then .
The real way to save lives and money would be to not have bases and troops all over the middle east.
I understand nobody liked the Iranian regime, why didn't they do anything about it? Why us? Why our money? Why our lives?
 

SoCo

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Here 'ya go @cam_blev ...just for you sweetheart! :love:


Iranian Regime’s War on America: Four Decades of Targeting U.S. Forces and Citizens

excerpt:
Since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, the Iranian regime has waged a sustained campaign of violence against the United States—killing U.S. troops, targeting diplomats and civilians, and plotting attacks on American soil. Using terror proxies such as Lebanon’s Hezbollah and Iraq’s Popular Mobilization Forces - together with ballistic missiles, terror financing, and clandestine activities - Tehran has built a global playbook of violence that spans four decades, all in its efforts to expel the U.S. and reshape the Middle East in its favor.


@cam_blev ...thinking it over....
If that is true, we fell right into irans hands when the US toppled Iraq. Iraq was key in keeping Iran in check because they were the chief rivals in the Middle East, Iran grew powerful thanks to the Bush family and Halliburton.
 
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SoCo

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The real way to save lives and money would be to not have bases and troops all over the middle east.
I understand nobody liked the Iranian regime, why didn't they do anything about it? Why us? Why our money? Why our lives?
We need the bases there to keep the worlds most important natural resource flowing, it Sucks but it is necessary,

if by they you mean Iranians, they were murdered by the tens of thousands in recent months. If you mean the us, obama and Biden gave them a boatload of us taxpayers dollars so they could get their kickbacks and skim from the top. how Many billions did that cost us?
 
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cam_blev

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We need the bases there to keep the worlds most important natural resource flowing, it Sucks but it is necessary,

if by they you mean Iranians, they were murdered by the tens of thousands in recent months. If you mean the us, obama and Biden gave them a boatload of us taxpayers dollars so they could get their kickbacks and skim from the top
just to be clear, I didn't mean Iranians, I meant all the other countries in the world that dislike Iran including all the other Islamic countries in the area
Saudi etc after we spent years refilling their planes to kill poor people in Yemen
 

WVUALLEN

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Will Trump take their oil? That's kind of his thing, attack and take the oil.
US bombs a major terrorist organization that has even bombed other Muslim countries and @moe is only worried about the safety of oil.
 

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HOLY SMOKES. SecWar Pete Hegseth just PUMMELED the globalists and "international law" in front of millions "Hemming and hawing about the use of force! America, REGARDLESS of what so-called 'international institutions' say, is unleashing the most LETHAL and PRECISE airpower campaign in HISTORY!" "No stupid rules of engagement. No politically correct wars. WE FIGHT TO WIN. We don't waste time." I voted for this.
 

SoCo

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just to be clear, I didn't mean Iranians, I meant all the other countries in the world that dislike Iran including all the other Islamic countries in the area
Saudi etc after we spent years refilling their planes to kill poor people in Yemen
Git it. Maybe those countries didn’t have the intelligence or capabilities to pull off a successful attack? Neither you, nor I know what the intlligence was or how imminent or not Any threat could be. I’m not going to claim this was necessary or not because we don’t know, Otherwise we may find ourselves looking like those “hands up, don’t shoot” fools.

and those poor people in Yemen were Houthis, the terror group armed and funded by Iran who attacked oil and cargo ships. See my previous post about protecting the flow of oil.
 

roadtrasheer

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The real way to save lives and money would be to not have bases and troops all over the middle east.
I understand nobody liked the Iranian regime, why didn't they do anything about it? Why us? Why our money? Why our lives?
They why is easy....we can and can do so fairly fast .
I do agree we should have never ever gone to the middle east they have never liked us or like our religion....
 

roadtrasheer

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The real way to save lives and money would be to not have bases and troops all over the middle east.
I understand nobody liked the Iranian regime, why didn't they do anything about it? Why us? Why our money? Why our lives?
They why is easy....we can and can do so fairly fast .
I do agree we should have never ever gone to the middle east they have never liked us or like our religion....
 

atlkvb

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Hom many Americans had they killed on US soil?
and also you are talking about 1979 when they took back their country from our puppet leader we installed in their country after toppling their last regime?
They are such a threat they have been yelling death to our country/regime for 46 years yet they cant get a missile half way to us.


btw im getting really tired of your schizo giphy boomer posting
If you cant make your point using words and logic and have to post pictures and cartoons and 5 messages back to back im just gonna block you
I do the memes because you typically go stone cold silent when I attempt to ask you fact based questions, or challenge your erroneous assumptions.

Now to address your inaccurate and ill informed post, if you actually took the time to read the linked information I provided ITT, you can easily find your answers as to how many American deaths the world's #1 sponsor of State terrorism is responsible for?

So just exactly how would YOU have proposed we deal with a nation not only declaring "death to America" but was also actively killing Americans around the globe?

No memes necessary for your answer, just tell us what you'd do differently to accomplish the same results Trump has, decimating their war making ability and erasing their radical war mongering leadership? 🤔
 
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cam_blev

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I do the memes because you typically go stone cold silent when I attempt to ask you fact based questions, or challenge your erroneous assumptions.

Now to address your inaccurate and I'll informed post, if actually you took the time to read the linked information I provided ITT, you can easily find your answers as to how many American deaths the world's #1 sponsor of State terrorism is responsible for?

So just exactly how would YOU have proposed we deal with a nation not only declaring "death to America" but was also actively killing Americans around the globe?

No memes necessary for your answer, just tell us what you'd do differently to accomplish the same results Trump has, decimating their war making ability and erasing their radical war mongering leadership? 🤔
Around the globe on all of our bases.
I would bring our troops home and close every military base in the middle east and if they brough a military vessel any where close to withing hitting our country i'd blow it up with the press of a button.
If we weren't on the other side of the planet with our military, they would be safe.
 

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I do the memes because you typically go stone cold silent when I attempt to ask you fact based questions, or challenge your erroneous assumptions.

Now to address your inaccurate and I'll informed post, if actually you took the time to read the linked information I provided ITT, you can easily find your answers as to how many American deaths the world's #1 sponsor of State terrorism is responsible for?

So just exactly how would YOU have proposed we deal with a nation not only declaring "death to America" but was also actively killing Americans around the globe?

No memes necessary for your answer, just tell us what you'd do differently to accomplish the same results Trump has, decimating their war making ability and erasing their radical war mongering leadership? 🤔
I am against war and sacrificing American soldiers but at times it's necessary to use force and rid a country of it's rats. If we had done nothing terrorist attacks would have worsened in the US thanks to Leftist extremist that decide to open borders for all illegals. If they think only Mexicans were crossing over then they lied to themselves. Far left has been associated with various forms of authoritarianism, anarchism, communism, and Marxism.
 

atlkvb

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If that is true, we fell right into irans hands when the US toppled Iraq. Iraq was key in keeping Iran in check because they were the chief rivals in the Middle East, Iran grew powerful thanks to the Bush family and Halliburton.
All of this psyco analysis of what motivates the radical Islamic Mullahs and their designs against Israel primarily and America by association overlooks one unmistakable yet salient fact.

THEIR RELIGION AND DEVOTION TO THEIR BELIEF IN ESTABLISHING A WORLDWIDE ISLAMIC CALIPHATE SUPERCEDES ALL OTHER MOTIVATIONS.

Israel stands as a direct slap in the face to their Islamic beliefs and because we stand with Israel, we are the "Great Satan" standing in the way of the consummation of their deeply held Faith and long sought desire.

To ignore that seminal point in trying to understand both the motives and purposes underlying this centuries old Religious conflict between Arab Muslims and Judeo Christians is shortsighted at best and fatally inadequate at worst.

I posted some background on this dispute, which is not only informative but consequential understanding the Spiritual forces in conflict over the Middle East.

Please read it.
 
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