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Do you talk to OM fans about MSU football?

57stratdawg

57stratdawg

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I constantly see people typing:

"Don't listen to Black Bears tell you that our D is going to struggle this year"
"OM fans want you to believe that we lost alot on offense from last year"
"TSUN propaganda will lead you to believe that we're going to be soft on offense again"

Blah blah blah

But, I have NEVER had a conversation with an OM fan about MSU football. Why would I give a **** what they think anyway? There isn't an OM fan that's going to know as much as I do about MSU football, that should hold true for almost everyone on this board. Guess I'm just confused, if you have an OM fan talking you down on the 2013 MSU football team, I guess I'd like to know who you are.
 
hatfieldms

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Sure, with some of them

Though the ones I do talk with are the more releastic ones. And I take into consideration while talking that they probably know as little about MSU football as I do Ole Miss football. Hell I couldn't name ten players o Ole Miss' upcoming team this year. Just don't care enough
 
57stratdawg

57stratdawg

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hatfieldms said:
Though the ones I do talk with are the more releastic ones. And I take into consideration while talking that they probably know as little about MSU football as I do Ole Miss football. Hell I couldn't name ten players o Ole Miss' upcoming team this year. Just don't care enough
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Do your conversations shape your outlook on the 2013 MSU football season?
 
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TBone.sixpack

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Just a few. I have one old friend that told me when we started out 7-0 that it was fools gold. They also said they were gonna skull drag us. Unpleasant predictions that come true.
 
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Pretty much only with close friends. If I'm talking MSU football with an OM acquaintance, I generally keep it really vague like "yeah, we'll probably have a good team, but we'll be playing a lot of other good teams" or talk about how I think individual players are coming along. I never make predictions or anything like that. I can't remember having an adversarial type conversation with an OM fan about OM or MSU football since I was a teen-ager. Its just not really my personality.
 
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57stratdawg said:
Do your conversations shape your outlook on the 2013 MSU football season?
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Never. I generally have a much better grasp on what to expect from our team than they do, and often know more about their own team than they do.
 
mcdawg22

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Yeah not as much as I used to but to be honest, I don't see Der and DS as much as I used to.
 
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Indndawg

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No. But they always wanna to talk about OM football.

Even when they suck, its always about how great: they were, and will be.
 
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DerHntr

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Only with a couple of very old friends and it isn't a bunch of **** talking. I always assume the people who claim what you are saying are actually reading it from an OM website and get real life and interweb life confused.

The only time in the last five or so years I can remember an in person antagonistic conversation with an OM fan was new years 4 years ago at the Beau Rivage. It was more funny than anything and we were both laughing about it.
 
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FreeDawg

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My close group that I grew up with is pretty evenly split and pretty football knowledgeable so we have good objective conversations. Not to be confused with folks on message boards or social media. I have a theory that rational people in real life become morons on the Internet.
 
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I tell all my State friends and family that Autry, Evans, James and Jones are going to be strong this year. There's no reason to lie. Y'all should have a good running game behind an experienced OL and back. The line can only help your QB. Receivers and secondary are going to be questionable.
 
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KurtRambis4

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No, but

a great deal of what you speak of is coming from nafoomers over the past year plus.
 
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Conversations usually revolve around them telling me what they think of Ole Miss. Me telling them what I think of State. Then my LSU brother-in-law talking about **** that he doesn't understand.
 
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ive always though om fans were notoriously bad at dictating to other fan bases what their opinions should be about ole miss. how great the grove is, how awesome swayze is and how its the best "atmosphere" in college baseball, how beautiful their campus is, how great a town oxford is... they have some things to be happy about in those regards, but if an opposing fan has a negative opinion, it flips into dictating the greatness of whatever they are talking about. then they parade any publication whatsoever that has a positive comment about the topic of conversation regardless of credibility or relevance. heaven forbid, some poor guy in central arkansas doesnt like the city of oxford or thinks the grove is overrated.
 
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MedDawg

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Next time an OM fans says they have the best atmosphere in college baseball....

Shamoan said:
ive always though om fans were notoriously bad at dictating to other fan bases what their opinions should be about ole miss. how great the grove is, how awesome swayze is and how its the best "atmosphere" in college baseball, how beautiful their campus is, how great a town oxford is... they have some things to be happy about in those regards, but if an opposing fan has a negative opinion, it flips into dictating the greatness of whatever they are talking about. then they parade any publication whatsoever that has a positive comment about the topic of conversation regardless of credibility or relevance. heaven forbid, some poor guy in central arkansas doesnt like the city of oxford or thinks the grove is overrated.
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Show them this:

 
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I don't think the hatred between MSU and OM is as bad on the Coast. TheRE are as many LSU and USM fans as bears and more MSU than anyone. Up until Jackie started with the "that school" and "Mississippi" talk in the 90s many if not most OM fans I knew pulled for us in every game except the Egg Bowl. Jackie changed that and it's gotten worse with Mullen. Now they either don't care what we do or pull for us only when it helps them (which has been never for a few years). They were mostly pulling for us in the CWS. I realize the rivalry is much more intense in Jackson and north of that.
 
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RockstarFromMars

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I talk about MSU with my MSU friends and they talk about Ole Miss with me. I don't think we take it as seriously as some fans do though.
 
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Not much of a choice. I work from the house by myself. That's the only thing I miss from an office environment is talking with other sports fans.

The couples my wife and I hang with the most are OM fans/grads. There's a Bama grad from Columbus mixed in as well. I'm sure they run down State when I'm not around, but we're all pretty respectful around each other.
 
57stratdawg

57stratdawg

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DerHntr said:
I always assume the people who claim what you are saying are actually reading it from an OM website and get real life and interweb life confused.
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Bingo.

So, the next time there is a thread asking why Mullen is 2-2X (whatever it is) against top 25 teams, please don't type something like "don't let the OM message sway your view of reality". Because reality is there isn't a mass Rebel spin machine brainwashing MSU fans outlook on MSU Football. This thread is proof of that.
 
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Contrary to popular belief I don't think we control the media, and we definitely don't control Vegas. Neither believes ya'll will be very good at this point. That's where the info about your team is coming from, and the news hasn't been very positive. My personal opinion is that if those players that are inexperienced but are supposed to be good actually become good players (especially at D tackle) then ya'll will be solid and better than advertised. But that's a big IF. As an OM fan I have seen the highly ranked players with bad attitudes become busts so much its tough for me to believe that Evans, and the other guy that got kicked out of his high school make dramatic 180s and turn out to be Fletcher Cox. Another ??? at the same position is Eulls. Will this guy ever be a good football player? We'll see if the position change makes a difference, but so far, looks like tarzan plays like jane
 
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patdog

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Fortunately, the media and Vegas are notoriously inaccurate, especially at this time of year. Right now, I think we're a huge question mark. Could potentially be a very good team, but a lot of things have to fall into place for us. And you're right that 2 of the biggest are Evans & James. I figure if we can get 1 of them to turn out to be close to as good as hyped, we'll be doing good.
 
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RebFan.sixpack

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Agree. My point is that the "propaganda" is coming from the media. I'm not sure why its is being labeled "OM propaganda"
 
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rebflow

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I'm probably one of those fans you speak of, but damn I don't have any pictures of swayze that badass. I'd like to think I'm pretty realistic concerning our rivalry. I think 8 wins is gonna be tough to duplicate with the OSU opener, but by no means do I feel state will drop off dramatically, that DL has to be better considering the youth, Autry reminds me of Dorsey and most other juco d linemen, it takes a year to get acclimated and they will be average that year, but look for a big jump from him this fall
 
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rebflow

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Evans reminds me of powe, he was out of shape when he got on campus, and didn't have everything together off the field, powe ended up and still is in the nfl, he never made all sec from what I can remember, and I don't think Evans will either, but he can still be very valuable, no comment on James, just don't know enough about him
 
hatfieldms

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I think most state fans would be happy with 6-7 wins this year

I know I would
 
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rebflow

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P.S. anyone who talks **** at work, aside from some lighthearted jabs in November is an idiot who doesn't get that you have to get along with everyone to succeed no matter what business your in. Those that take it too far care more about 18 year olds in pads than they do advancing in the workplace/ gaining clients/ what have you. Those folks need to reprioritize
 
57stratdawg

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rebflow said:
Evans reminds me of powe, he was out of shape when he got on campus, and didn't have everything together off the field, powe ended up and still is in the nfl, he never made all sec from what I can remember, and I don't think Evans will either, but he can still be very valuable, no comment on James, just don't know enough about him
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I think Quay's problem is that last year we asked our DL to read and react, maintain gap assignments moreso than just getting up field and causing chaos. Those are very new concepts to a guy that's probably just use to blowing up a guard/center double team in HS. Could be wrong.

Either way, this is a very important fall camp for him. If he comes out of fall not on the 2-deep, I'll really start to be worried. My fear will be him transfering more than just never developing.
 
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patdog

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I think you're getting Evans and James a little mixed up. James came in like Powe, fat and out of shape. I think Evans was in decent shape. They both have had off-field issues. Hoping at least 1 of them will get their head on straight.
 
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