Do you think int should be legal to protest something at the private residence of a public official ?

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I'm afraid that civility is a thing of the past. Ignorant people think they have a right to camp on the lawn of public officials, scream at them when they're out having dinner, confront them in a public space. It's rude. It's crass. It's unacceptable.

We had a perfectly capable health director in Ohio at the beginning of covid. When mask mandates and vaccine rollouts began, people went to her house to protest. She wasn't even an elected official, but rather she's a doctor that was appointed to the position, and accepted in order to serve the public interest. She quit. It wasn't worth having idiots harass her family and disrupt her home life. Same thing is happening with refs for youth sports. The harassment and threats and violence just aren't worth it. No one wants that job any more. We got HS football leagues where some teams play on Thursday and some on Friday, so that the few remaining refs can work two nights instead of one, and cover all the games.

People are nucking futs! And I'm afraid it may be getting worse.

I certainly didn't agree with any shot or mask mandates, but the thought of going to Andy Beshear's home NEVER once crossed my mind.

TOTALLY agree with the youth sports stuff, too. I was a ref for FOURTH GRADE GIRLS INSTRUCTIONAL LEAGUE in Burlington, KY probably 6 or 8 years ago and on more than one occasion a parent(s) had to be kicked out of the gym.
 
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No way. Whoever leaked it is an American hero. The Court can't just move this Country backwards like that with no public accountability. I believe in the end sanity will prevail and ultimately all of the protections provided by Roe v. Wade will stand one way or another all across the Country. Again, too many republicans willing to die on the hill for evangelist and other right wing lunatics. It's too bad, congress and in a couple of years, the White House will be ripe for the taking for the republicans. Yet, they just can't seperate themselves from this nonsense.

In other words, you don't know what's going on.
 
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In other words, you don't know what's going on.
Like most lefties, he fails to realize what the overturning of Rowe really means. It doesn’t make abortion illegal (though I wish it did). The Court wants to turn the issue over to the states and let the voting public decide the issue. How is that “going backwards”? It’s the most democratic thing that can happen. Lefties either don’t understand the situation or they’re worried that We the People won’t vote the way they want us too. Regardless, that’s true democracy.
 
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Like most lefties, he fails to realize what the overturning of Rowe really means. It doesn’t make abortion illegal (though I wish it did). The Court wants to turn the issue over to the states and let the voting public decide the issue. How is that “going backwards”? It’s the most democratic thing that can happen. Lefties either don’t understand the situation or they’re worried that We the People won’t vote the way they want us too. Regardless, that’s true democracy.
I don't know what overturning Rowe means. You apparently don't know what overturning Roe means either though.

Also we aren't a democracy. We are a constitutional republic. I would just sit the rest of this out if I were you.
 

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I don't know what overturning Rowe means. You apparently don't know what overturning Roe means either though.

Also we aren't a democracy. We are a constitutional republic. I would just sit the rest of this out if I were you.
I know exactly what it means *******. It means exactly what I posted. It doesn’t make abortion illegal, but it does away with abortion being protected across the land. Again, if your thick skull can absorb it (read the leaked opinion), the intent of the court was to turn the issue over to a citizen vote.
And yes, we’re a constitutional/representative republic that has a democratic form of government: get it moron! And letting the citizenry decide an issue is the most democratic and fair way to settle any issue.

And oh my gosh, a W was inserted into Roe! That just makes all the difference in the world! 😝😝😩
 
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But I bet you support the Dems calling for riots in 2020 when just about every American city was set on fire by the little Marxist bitches from BLM and Antifa! Right! And didn’t the Dems ***** and moan for 4 years (and still are) falsely claiming Russia, Russia, Russia got Trump elected! Well? As far as Jan. 6 goes, it’s ridiculous to label a couple hundred UNARMED people voicing displeasure with a rigged election as an insurrection. Yeah, a couple hundred unarmed people (who were let into the capitol by armed security) were going to overthrow the U.S. government. What a pitiful agenda being pushed by the left.
Oh boy, it's a **** post brought to you by the Political Thread. Want more of this? Look no further than the top of the page! I'll entertain your screwed up nonsense though.

Of course the riots and damage done was unacceptable. You'll find elected Dems who called for protests, but none called for riots. That's a talking point from the Political Thread. Dems indeed bitched constantly about Trump. Guess what? You and others are now doing the same about Biden (on every board on this site, what happened to stick to sports?) while wanting to sink his son and spread rumors that Biden is a pedo. You can't ***** about how the other side acted when you're up to the same twisted BS. What happened to just saying "meh, that guy sucks. Hope he doesn't get reelected." That's a both sides problem. You can downplay the insurrection all you want, but like the riots, it was a stain on the country and incredibly embarrassing as the world watched. You may hate some politicians, but they shouldn't be forced into hiding while people "voicing displeasure with a rigged election" (laughable lying excuse) went into the Capitol looking for targets, screaming threats, and leaving death threat notes on the desks of certain politicians. That's beyond unacceptable, and as I said to ThroughBlue, I knew that the further away we got from the insurrection taking place, some would downplay it and even support it happening. If that describes you, you're not a patriot, you're a predictable, hate-filled (dare I say) sheep. Have a pleasant tomorrow though.
 
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So I guess you're just going to gloss over when 200 right-wingers protested at Gov. Beshear's home and hanged an effigy of the Governor there a couple years ago?

Fact check: Missing context and mostly false.

According to the left these are protests and the 1st amendment guarantees that for public officials. The LAW that is being broken in VA is the intent to influence a judges decision. When cAndy was protested against he was not at his personal home, and was doing a TV broadcast explaining why he was putting these folks out of business.
 
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I know exactly what it means *******. It means exactly what I posted. It doesn’t make abortion illegal, but it does away with abortion being protected across the land. Again, if your thick skull can absorb it (read the leaked opinion), the intent of the court was to turn the issue over to a citizen vote.
And yes, we’re a constitutional/representative republic that has a democratic form of government: get it moron! And letting the citizenry decide an issue is the most democratic and fair way to settle any issue.

And oh my gosh, a W was inserted into Roe! That just makes all the difference in the world! 😝😝😩
So you aren’t smart enough to have a cogent argument when someone points out that you are wrong so you resort to name calling. I assumed you would be used to being wrong by now. You have gotten a lot of practice. What will you be wrong about next? Are you going to claim all the headshots on our money were pulled from their respective social media pages? Sounds like something you would claim.

It’s cute when you try cupcake.
 

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“People”

During a rally in 2016, Trump told his fans that if he won, it was fair. If he lost, it was because he was cheated. That’s called a “just in-case.” A little over four years later, he pulled out the same excuse because he refused to take the loss like a man and continued to throw out baseless accusations of “massive fraud” (against him only).

Sorry America broke your heart, but my post stands true. Vote like a normal person. If you want to protest, do it peacefully. Don’t destroy property and don’t try to pull some half-assed insurrection where politicians are forced into hiding within the walls of the Capitol. That ain’t America and it ain’t patriotic. I responded to a dipshit post from ThroughBlue because he thinks insurrections should be the norm now.
Like a normal person would be in person with a photo ID... You ok with that chief?
 
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Oh boy, it's a **** post brought to you by the Political Thread. Want more of this? Look no further than the top of the page! I'll entertain your screwed up nonsense though.

Of course the riots and damage done was unacceptable. You'll find elected Dems who called for protests, but none called for riots. That's a talking point from the Political Thread. Dems indeed bitched constantly about Trump. Guess what? You and others are now doing the same about Biden (on every board on this site, what happened to stick to sports?) while wanting to sink his son and spread rumors that Biden is a pedo. You can't ***** about how the other side acted when you're up to the same twisted BS. What happened to just saying "meh, that guy sucks. Hope he doesn't get reelected." That's a both sides problem. You can downplay the insurrection all you want, but like the riots, it was a stain on the country and incredibly embarrassing as the world watched. You may hate some politicians, but they shouldn't be forced into hiding while people "voicing displeasure with a rigged election" (laughable lying excuse) went into the Capitol looking for targets, screaming threats, and leaving death threat notes on the desks of certain politicians. That's beyond unacceptable, and as I said to ThroughBlue, I knew that the further away we got from the insurrection taking place, some would downplay it and even support it happening. If that describes you, you're not a patriot, you're a predictable, hate-filled (dare I say) sheep. Have a pleasant tomorrow though.
So why were elected dems bailing violent rioters out of jail and saying they were mostly peaceful protest? You can ignore reality but not the consequences of reality. $2billion in damage and almost nobody did jail time.
 
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So you aren’t smart enough to have a cogent argument when someone points out that you are wrong so you resort to name calling. I assumed you would be used to being wrong by now. You have gotten a lot of practice. What will you be wrong about next? Are you going to claim all the headshots on our money were pulled from their respective social media pages? Sounds like something you would claim.

It’s cute when you try cupcake.
Point out where I was wrong Scooter. You’re obviously nothing more than a smart *** troll.
 

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Oh boy, it's a **** post brought to you by the Political Thread. Want more of this? Look no further than the top of the page! I'll entertain your screwed up nonsense though.

Of course the riots and damage done was unacceptable. You'll find elected Dems who called for protests, but none called for riots. That's a talking point from the Political Thread. Dems indeed bitched constantly about Trump. Guess what? You and others are now doing the same about Biden (on every board on this site, what happened to stick to sports?) while wanting to sink his son and spread rumors that Biden is a pedo. You can't ***** about how the other side acted when you're up to the same twisted BS. What happened to just saying "meh, that guy sucks. Hope he doesn't get reelected." That's a both sides problem. You can downplay the insurrection all you want, but like the riots, it was a stain on the country and incredibly embarrassing as the world watched. You may hate some politicians, but they shouldn't be forced into hiding while people "voicing displeasure with a rigged election" (laughable lying excuse) went into the Capitol looking for targets, screaming threats, and leaving death threat notes on the desks of certain politicians. That's beyond unacceptable, and as I said to ThroughBlue, I knew that the further away we got from the insurrection taking place, some would downplay it and even support it happening. If that describes you, you're not a patriot, you're a predictable, hate-filled (dare I say) sheep. Have a pleasant tomorrow though.
Many Dem politicians threw gas on the fire of the riots by continually calling them peaceful protestors, establishing bail funds for those that were arrested, and telling them to confront and get in the faces of conservatives (Maxine Waters, AOC, Presley, and others). I watched them do it so don’t claim they didn’t. And many of the rioters were armed unlike those on Jan 6. Another fact. Spin it how you want to but you’ll still be wrong.
 

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I know there is probably constitutional issues with this but I say NO WAY .. go after public officials however you like , but protests at someones private home is too close to intimidation of a public official iMO . What do you think ? I say leave officials and their children alone at their home . Regardless of political stances , but sadly it seems only the radical left thinks its OK .
"Regardless of political stances" I'm going to **** on those I disagree with." I'm not sure you should ruin a good point by showing how indoctrinated you are into the far right. It is wrong to protest at someone's house, but to blame it on the left shows your blindness/ignorance of how this **** works. Both sides do it. They have been bombing abortion clinics for years. Is that better because you are on that side?
 
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Many Dem politicians threw gas on the fire of the riots by continually calling them peaceful protestors, establishing bail funds for those that were arrested, and telling them to confront and get in the faces of conservatives (Maxine Waters, AOC, Presley, and others). I watched them do it so don’t claim they didn’t. And many of the rioters were armed unlike those on Jan 6. Another fact. Spin it how you want to but you’ll still be wrong.
You are the expert on being wrong. However, the items you listed are also the things that were done for the Jan. 6 protestors. Most of the the Jan 6 protestors were armed. I watched them do it so don’t claim they didn’t. Another fact. Soon it how you want to but you’ll still be wrong. Like I said before, you have plenty of experience with that though pumpkin.
 

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"Regardless of political stances" I'm going to **** on those I disagree with." I'm not sure you should ruin a good point by showing how indoctrinated you are into the far right. It is wrong to protest at someone's house, but to blame it on the left shows your blindness/ignorance of how this **** works. Both sides do it. They have been bombing abortion clinics for years. Is that better because you are on that side?
Triggered . Feeling superior ? Lol. .. you da man Bowie . Thanks for setting me straight on " how this **** works " . Well got to go , Got my masters level Q-Anon class to attend .
 
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You are the expert on being wrong. However, the items you listed are also the things that were done for the Jan. 6 protestors. Most of the the Jan 6 protestors were armed. I watched them do it so don’t claim they didn’t. Another fact. Soon it how you want to but you’ll still be wrong. Like I said before, you have plenty of experience with that though pumpkin.
LOL. Not a single person involved in Jan 6 was armed. That’s a well published fact. Idiot.
 
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LOL. Not a single person involved in Jan 6 was armed. That’s a well published fact. Idiot.
That’s simply false. It was neither well published or a fact. Took less than 10 seconds to find these. There are plenty of others. Your streak of being wrong continues. I almost feel sorry for your dumb ***. How do you breath with your head so far up your ***?


 
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You’re so full of **** it’s running out your ears. Why don’t you crawl out of mommy’s basement, put on your skinny jeans, and go protest something, you little Marxist *****.
Is that really the best you can do? You constantly spout of with completely false information and get called on it and then turn to personal attacks. That is an indictment on you not me. It must suck to go through life with such an inferiority complex and to know that virtually everyone is smarter than you. At least maybe the dog likes you. Probably would need to tie a pork chop around your neck for that to happen though.

Thanks for playing. You lose yet again. What other lies will you come up with to tout as "published fact"? Just know, whenever you do, I will be waiting to show that you are wrong yet again.
 
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So I guess you're just going to gloss over when 200 right-wingers protested at Gov. Beshear's home and hanged an effigy of the Governor there a couple years ago?
I don't condone protests in front of public officials private homes, however, the Governor's Mansion is directly next to the front lawn of the State Capitol building where the actual protest was taking place. Plus the Governor's Mansion isn't a private Residence. Beshear doesn't own it, the taxpayers of KY do. Therefore ANY protest of ANYTHING at the state Capitol building could theoretically be considered protesting in front of the Governor's house. Same goes for protests on the mall in DC. Pretty much the same as a protest in front of the President's house.
 

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I'm shocked. I mean really, I thought Kavanaugh would live in a much larger house.
You're just used to seeing the posh digs of bought and paid for politicians. Judges are appointed and not subject to making millions off lobbyists and such.
 

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"Regardless of political stances" I'm going to **** on those I disagree with." I'm not sure you should ruin a good point by showing how indoctrinated you are into the far right. It is wrong to protest at someone's house, but to blame it on the left shows your blindness/ignorance of how this **** works. Both sides do it. They have been bombing abortion clinics for years. Is that better because you are on that side?
When was the last time an abortion clinic was bombed?
 

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I'm saying claiming something is codified in law is a specious argument that has no bearing on reality.
So you would agree that the morality of a law has to be considered? So for instance... protesting outside a judges house to try to sway a court ruling would be immoral... just like slavery was immoral. So we can look at laws and justify keeping or ending them.
 

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So you would agree that the morality of a law has to be considered? So for instance... protesting outside a judges house to try to sway a court ruling would be immoral... just like slavery was immoral. So we can look at laws and justify keeping or ending them.
My take is only law that is based on the constitution. Morality is best left to the individual, not a government. I think by Constitution, it is legal to protest at a judges house. I think it is amoral to protest at a judges house and I would never do it. If your political opponents are going to perform amoral acts, you need to be prepared to perform them also, until they learn to behave better. That's why I suggested an armed march in front of all Democrat residences. Again, it's not something I would do, but if you want to do it, knock yourself out.