After losing to a pathetic UCLA team and a barely average NW team folks are happy to beat anybody. And I know the Franklinbots are upset but the team looks better in all aspects.
Do you want PSU to hire Terry Smith as Head Coach?
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After losing to a pathetic UCLA team and a barely average NW team folks are happy to beat anybody. And I know the Franklinbots are upset but the team looks better in all aspects.
You continuing to attack me doesn't bother me...just makes you look...well like yourself
So it means nothing other than you felt like saying it
I would rather lose with Terry Smith rather than win with someone like Urban Meyer.
I’m not saying he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, but absolutely anybody could say the same thing. If you attach a name, then it means something to me.
Yeah, but he's taking heat for not being good at what he's good at.
The Bills offense has struggled.
Andy Reid?
Ryan Day?
Marcus Freeman?
Lane Kiffen?
I hope it's not Lane Kiffen. If that's Krafty Kraft's selection, so be it. He's going to struggle at PSU.
I vote not to hire Terry. I love the fact that he is a Penn State guy to the bone and that Joe button was a great move. I like that he is no nonsense and has gotten this team to play as a team, finally.
When I step back from the emotion of it all I have serious reservations on the ceiling of Smith. It is not like we just beat Ohio State and Indiana. We out talent MSU and Nebby big time. Yes he got the team to play hard but now do we think no other guy can do that? Many on this team that love Smith will probably not be here next year so you have to factor that in.
What has he done that is so miraculous? Told AK to wake the eff up and call a game that leverages our strengths? You would have expected Franklin to do that but he couldn't for some bizarre reason. He got the offensive line to play better. Again Franklin should have been able to do that.
At the end of the day I don't see enough of a discernible difference vs Franklin. Yes, he has accomplished things with this team that Franklin could not but there was something going on with Franklin that we don't know.
I just don't see him as the guy that can beat the big boys when we need to. Can the other candidates? I don't know but I have more confidence Chesney could, for example.
With all that said, the biggest thing Kraft needs to consider is where the big boosters, the BOT and the senior Admin people are. We need alignment across the board with the new guy. Kraft can't charge ahead and hire Chesney, for example, if many of the big boosters want Terry. It won't work and is doomed to fail. If all the key influencers want Terry then he needs to hire Terry. If Kraft can get genuine alignment for another guy then I would go in that direction.
When I step back from the emotion of it all I have serious reservations on the ceiling of Smith. It is not like we just beat Ohio State and Indiana. We out talent MSU and Nebby big time. Yes he got the team to play hard but now do we think no other guy can do that? Many on this team that love Smith will probably not be here next year so you have to factor that in.
What has he done that is so miraculous? Told AK to wake the eff up and call a game that leverages our strengths? You would have expected Franklin to do that but he couldn't for some bizarre reason. He got the offensive line to play better. Again Franklin should have been able to do that.
At the end of the day I don't see enough of a discernible difference vs Franklin. Yes, he has accomplished things with this team that Franklin could not but there was something going on with Franklin that we don't know.
I just don't see him as the guy that can beat the big boys when we need to. Can the other candidates? I don't know but I have more confidence Chesney could, for example.
With all that said, the biggest thing Kraft needs to consider is where the big boosters, the BOT and the senior Admin people are. We need alignment across the board with the new guy. Kraft can't charge ahead and hire Chesney, for example, if many of the big boosters want Terry. It won't work and is doomed to fail. If all the key influencers want Terry then he needs to hire Terry. If Kraft can get genuine alignment for another guy then I would go in that direction.
Broad-based support for the successful candidate will be crucial.
If the only candidates are Fitzgerald and Al Golden, then hire Terry Smith.
But all I can think about is how the Pittsburgh Pirates hire interim managers after they get a team way out of contention to win a few games, and then of course next year it's back to last place. This interim stuff seems to never work out very well. Maybe somebody has a good interim story somewhere, because I can't think of one.
But all I can think about is how the Pittsburgh Pirates hire interim managers after they get a team way out of contention to win a few games, and then of course next year it's back to last place. This interim stuff seems to never work out very well. Maybe somebody has a good interim story somewhere, because I can't think of one.
Scotty Bowman Pittsburgh Penguins 1992. Although 1993 didn't go well. That is the best I can do and it is admittedly not very convincing.
I'm also not a fan of Lane Kiffin. I'd pass, but if he's the guy, I'm getting behind him just like I did with Franklin.
I certainly appreciatevTerry's love for PSU, his honesty and his efforts thus far. No doubt the players really like him and have given full effort. But, the Hire Terry Smith signs were too contrived, coupled with MRobs pronouncement. It all seemed so scripted. Not impressed with that
If no homerun hire then Chesney is my choice and if he turns it down, give Terry a shot.
Northwestern quit on him about like Penn State did on Franklin, but for different reasons. It's a tough line to walk these days between too soft and too tough.
Fitzgerald = laughable. Same with people even suggesting Schiano.
At least the Rhule trial balloon plummeted to earth like the Hindenburg at Lakehurst
At least the Rhule trial balloon plummeted to earth like the Hindenburg at Lakehurst
Northwestern made a poor decision hence he won a very large settlement against them.
He wasn't "too tough" on anyone. I'd suggest to research the findings.
Fitzgerald is merely better than Smith. It won't come down to that.
Fitzgerald is also infinitely better than Rhule.
People quickly forget how sought after Fitz was
Not to be hired at PSU, but a successful college coach that also had success in the NFL.
I actually believe Pate though, he's pretty well connected. Adam has been off base with stuff before. Pate posting that knowing he's not going to release any info is a d!ck move though, it's just engagement bait. And Pate definitely will not leak anything until it's public info, which is probably why he has the connections he does. People inside the programs trust him.
I get your point. In my eyes he's a lot like Harbaugh in the sense he had to flee to the NFL to avoid punishment.
I didn’t say him since he did really get his start in college. Carroll is more the Brady path…got a start in college in a few jobs, but then spent significant time in the NFL. Carroll’s return to college was OBVIOUSLY successful (shoutout to CJF).
I suspect a lot of letterman and boosters and BOT members will push for Terry. Kraft's job got a lot more complicated last night. Terry might even be asking them to push for him publicly to apply pressure and help his case.
I re read it and edited my response was looking at multiple threads
I was talking pre-USC…he spent a bunch of time in the NFL before the Trojans brought him back to college.
Maybe he wouldn't be the worst, but the last two years at Northwestern were Bill O'Brien this year bad. What about Al Golden?
One of the things I really like about Terry is he unites most of Penn State. 40 years of lettermen and donors will be very happy with him.
And quite frankly there seems something special about Terry. When he played at Penn State he was small but he was a team Captain. He's seems like a wonderful and genuine guy but tough as nails and not afraid to hold people accountable. And he absolutely loves Penn State. The last guy said he was a PA kid with a Penn State heart but that describes Terry to a T. He comes from Alaquippa and God knows kids from there are tough as nails.
Franklin made him as the Associate Head Coach for a reason and he's supposedly a very good recruiter.
I love the changes he's made to the team in all facets.
My only concern is he would need help with things like a GM and staff. I just have a good vibe about Terry.