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WVUBRU

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The Dems will not negotiate with the Liar in Chief until the government is open. Period. Don't go on TV again saying you are offering a new deal that is the same thing with the only thing is a bribe on DACA......and it isn't a good bribe to begin with as it is not passable based on what is known.

Shutdown will continue and the namecalling with the fingerpointing from this "leader" will start again within a short amount of time.

Sickening.
 
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EERs 3:16

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WVUBRU said:
The Dems will not negotiate with the Liar in Chief until the government is open. Period. Don't go on TV again saying you are offering a new deal that is the same thing with the only thing is a bribe on DACA......and it isn't a good bribe to begin with as it is not passable based on what is known.

Shutdown will continue and the namecalling with the fingerpointing from this "leader" will start again within a short amount of time.

Sickening.
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Yeah, it’s pretty sad that Dems won’t come to the table and work with the president to get this crisis resolved.
 
DvlDog4WVU

DvlDog4WVU

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WVUBRU said:
The Dems will not negotiate with the Liar in Chief until the government is open. Period. Don't go on TV again saying you are offering a new deal that is the same thing with the only thing is a bribe on DACA......and it isn't a good bribe to begin with as it is not passable based on what is known.

Shutdown will continue and the namecalling with the fingerpointing from this "leader" will start again within a short amount of time.

Sickening.
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Do you not believe he’d follow through with the 3 year DACA deal? Is there any way you’d support funding for a physical barrier at the border?
 
rog1187

rog1187

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DvlDog4WVU said:
Do you not believe he’d follow through with the 3 year DACA deal? Is there any way you’d support funding for a physical barrier at the border?
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The Dems own this shutdown now...more so than they did before. He’ll are they even in DC right now?
 
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EERs 3:16

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DvlDog4WVU said:
Do you not believe he’d follow through with the 3 year DACA deal? Is there any way you’d support funding for a physical barrier at the border?
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To follow up on this

Bru - was there a time when you supposed a barrier (esp under the Obama years) when you supported a barrier.
 
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WVUBRU

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I have stated many times I support an improved border security plan that includes additional physical barriers. My position is not unusual to what many politicians on the Dem side have also said. But until he opens the government, no deal on anything on increasing funding for any physical barriers. And I also support that position.

DACA needs to be part of comprehensive immigration plan. Yes, I support the Dreamers and they should be given permanent status in my view. But I don't support using people's lives as bargaining chips in legislation.
 
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EERs 3:16

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WVUBRU said:
I have stated many times I support an improved border security plan that includes additional physical barriers. My position is not unusual to what many politicians on the Dem side have also said. But until he opens the government, no deal on anything on increasing funding for any physical barriers. And I also support that position.

DACA needs to be part of comprehensive immigration plan. Yes, I support the Dreamers and they should be given permanent status in my view. But I don't support using people's lives as bargaining chips in legislation.
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Fund the barrier and you’ll see the DACA kids given citizenship status...Trump has (in the past) intimated that he’s cool with that, but why should he give that up without getting something in return?
 
rog1187

rog1187

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EERs 3:16 said:
Fund the barrier and you’ll see the DACA kids given citizenship status...Trump has (in the past) intimated that he’s cool with that, but why should he give that up without getting something in return?
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Because the Dems are so very trustworthy
 
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Mntneer

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WVUBRU said:
The Dems will not negotiate with the Liar in Chief until the government is open. Period. Don't go on TV again saying you are offering a new deal that is the same thing with the only thing is a bribe on DACA......and it isn't a good bribe to begin with as it is not passable based on what is known.

Shutdown will continue and the namecalling with the fingerpointing from this "leader" will start again within a short amount of time.

Sickening.
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In order to "open" the government they've got to put forth funding legislation that Trump will sign. He's made it clear in order for him to sign it it's got to have wall funding. He's offering a pretty substantial deal and if the Dems reject it out of hand, then they're going to appear even more petty.

Take the deal and open the government.

https://www.axios.com/trump-expecte...all-a8713395-d085-4921-a0c8-699872dcd534.html
 
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WVUBRU

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WVU82_rivals

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wvu2007

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Democrats and wvubru continue to support a government shutdown, open borders and the deportation of Dreamers.
 
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WVUBRU

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So one of the individuals that pulls the puppet strings on Trump, Ann Coulter, opposes Trump's proposal. Like I said, DOA. It won't even have GOP support much less the majority of the country.

And you fools still sucking Trump's ***.
 
rog1187

rog1187

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WVUBRU said:
So one of the individuals that pulls the puppet strings on Trump, Ann Coulter, opposes Trump's proposal. Like I said, DOA. It won't even have GOP support much less the majority of the country.

And you fools still sucking Trump's ***.
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LOL you’re sucking something...Nancy’s hawg
 
Airport

Airport

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Please start shooting them as they try to cross. That would bring them to the table.
 
dave

dave

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WVUBRU said:
The Dems will not negotiate with the Liar in Chief until the government is open. Period. Don't go on TV again saying you are offering a new deal that is the same thing with the only thing is a bribe on DACA......and it isn't a good bribe to begin with as it is not passable based on what is known.

Shutdown will continue and the namecalling with the fingerpointing from this "leader" will start again within a short amount of time.

Sickening.
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Sad the dems dont want to negotiatiate and hel government workers.
 
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TarHeelEer

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Dec 15, 2002
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WVUBRU said:
The Dems will not negotiate with the Liar in Chief until the government is open. Period. Don't go on TV again saying you are offering a new deal that is the same thing with the only thing is a bribe on DACA......and it isn't a good bribe to begin with as it is not passable based on what is known.

Shutdown will continue and the namecalling with the fingerpointing from this "leader" will start again within a short amount of time.

Sickening.
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I don't think the Dems see the optics on this now.
 
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JWG66

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The latest NCR poll shows Trunp gaining support amongst Hispanic voters since the shutdown started.

Wish he had canceled her flight home from there.
 
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boomerwv

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JWG66 said:
The latest NCR poll shows Trunp gaining support amongst Hispanic voters since the shutdown started.

Wish he had canceled her flight home from there.
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I wouldnt get ahead of myself looking into crosstabs. Usually when you see something unexpected like that its due to a small sample size. They likely didn't sample enough latinos and some trump supporting ones weighed heavier on the results. Unless more polls start showing those same things its just an anomaly. I'd especially be weary of quoting a poll whos overall topline showed a -15 approval rating and a full 57% of respondants saying they would absolutely vote against Trump.
 
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Airport

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Boomerwv said:
I wouldnt get ahead of myself looking into crosstabs. Usually when you see something unexpected like that its due to a small sample size. They likely didn't sample enough latinos and some trump supporting ones weighed heavier on the results. Unless more polls start showing those same things its just an anomaly. I'd especially be weary of quoting a poll whos overall topline showed a -15 approval rating and a full 57% of respondants saying they would absolutely vote against Trump.
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You think they asked the ones here legally or illegally?
 
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JWG66

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TarHeelEer said:
I don't think the Dems see the optics on this now.
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This is a good observation. Trump is actually on the side of the laws and safety. Pelosi is saying she can't find 50 cents to support attacks on our border. Totally unbelievable.
 
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boomerwv

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JWG66 said:
This is a good observation. Trump is actually on the side of the laws and safety. Pelosi is saying she can't find 50 cents to support attacks on our border. Totally unbelievable.
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EERs 3:16 said:
Fund the barrier and you’ll see the DACA kids given citizenship status...Trump has (in the past) intimated that he’s cool with that, but why should he give that up without getting something in return?
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Permanent full protections for DACA and a path to citizenship. But none of that while the gov is shutdown. Open it and then we can talk.
 
dave

dave

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Boomerwv said:
Permanent full protections for DACA and a path to citizenship. But none of that while the gov is shutdown. Open it and then we can talk.
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Right. Give up all your leverage and then we will negotiate. You libs actually buy that nonesense and you wonder why people mock you.
 
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Boomboom521

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DvlDog4WVU said:
Do you not believe he’d follow through with the 3 year DACA deal? Is there any way you’d support funding for a physical barrier at the border?
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I personally would never support a physical barrier, but I wouldn’t mind the Dems to do so when receiving compensation. Enough people want it I guess.
 
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WVUBRU

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For the brain dead Trump *** suckers, Trump manufactured the DACA crisis and the courts have ruled against Trump. They currently have temporary status. Trump offered temporary status. Yea boy, he is a great negotiator and this is a serious attempt to resolve the other manufactured crisis of shutting down the government. Remember, Trump and Trumpers are proud of that fact.
 
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