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Arivacalion

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Seriously. The entire nation waits with baided breath to see if we can steal Nebraskas head coach who has an even worse record against top 15 teams. He's 5-2 and they are saying if he simply goes 8-4 he's got the job.

Other than that? That's it. All of the other names either don't want the job or will be coaching into Late January in the playoffs. The hire can't wait until then and you can't hire a coach to do nothing for a month and a half while your roster leaves.

Meanwhile every other coach in the nation is now cashing in on record setting contracts to keep them from going to Penn State, but I still can't find the coach who wants the gig.

This sounds insane but maybe just make Terry Smith the head coach regardless if we finish 3-9 or 6-6, and 6-6 is best case scenario. Not kidding...he might be the only way. Either that or bring back Manny, who I think would both want and take the job. Who would have believed that in late October the Penn State football job is the equivalent of the Penn State basketball job.
 
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Things that help:
Still a huge name brand in college football
Taj Mahal facilities
Pretty much an unlimited budget to spend.
INCREDIBLY easy schedule to break in with in year 1
PSU will be willing to make next coach the highest paid in history - if they can get a big name coach to sign on.

Things that hurt:
Going to have to rebuild roster significantly. Being in the age of "portal" and 105 man roster limits does help to mitigate that a lot. Back in the day, would have been looking at 2-3 year to rebuild roster. Today, most of that can be done in 2-3 months
Pat Kraft as a boss. Nice to have someone willing to mortgage to the hilt to give you money, but whatever rep PK had 6 months ago, it is far worse today after the nasty divorce with (former) HCJF.
Pat Kraft running the search show, assuming he will be, which I think is a pretty good bet. Limited track record vav coaching hires is "not good".
 
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Arivacalion said:
Seriously. The entire nation waits with baided breath to see if we can steal Nebraskas head coach who has an even worse record against top 15 teams. He's 5-2 and they are saying if he simply goes 8-4 he's got the job.

Other than that? That's it. All of the other names either don't want the job or will be coaching into Late January in the playoffs. The hire can't wait until then and you can't hire a coach to do nothing for a month and a half while your roster leaves.

Meanwhile every other coach in the nation is now cashing in on record setting contracts to keep them from going to Penn State, but I still can't find the coach who wants the gig.

This sounds insane but maybe just make Terry Smith the head coach regardless if we finish 3-9 or 6-6, and 6-6 is best case scenario. Not kidding...he might be the only way. Either that or bring back Manny, who I think would both want and take the job. Who would have believed that in late October the Penn State football job is the equivalent of the Penn State basketball job.
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It will be at least a month before we hire anyone
Smith isn't an option
Stop the drama
 
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DaytonRickster

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Arivacalion said:
Seriously. The entire nation waits with baided breath to see if we can steal Nebraskas head coach who has an even worse record against top 15 teams. He's 5-2 and they are saying if he simply goes 8-4 he's got the job.

Other than that? That's it. All of the other names either don't want the job or will be coaching into Late January in the playoffs. The hire can't wait until then and you can't hire a coach to do nothing for a month and a half while your roster leaves.

Meanwhile every other coach in the nation is now cashing in on record setting contracts to keep them from going to Penn State, but I still can't find the coach who wants the gig.

This sounds insane but maybe just make Terry Smith the head coach regardless if we finish 3-9 or 6-6, and 6-6 is best case scenario. Not kidding...he might be the only way. Either that or bring back Manny, who I think would both want and take the job. Who would have believed that in late October the Penn State football job is the equivalent of the Penn State basketball job.
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I don't have much confidence in Kraft based on his previous AD jobs; even here. Who are the quality hires he has made?

He better not be trying to bring Rhule to PSU.

I wonder, has he spoken with any of the following?
- Elko (Texas A & M)
- Stein (Oregon OC)
- Brohm (Louisviille)
- Kiffin (Ole Miss)
- Key (GT)
- Clark Lea (Vandy)
- Diaz (Duke)
- Sumraill (Tulane)
- Chesney (JMU)
- Brady (Bill's OC)
 
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donaldfair71

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PSUFTG said:
Things that help:
Still a huge name brand in college football
Taj Mahal facilities
Pretty much an unlimited budget to spend.
INCREDIBLY easy schedule to break in with in year 1
PSU will be willing to make next coach the highest paid in history - if they can get a big name coach to sign on.

Things that hurt:
Going to have to rebuild roster significantly. Being in the age of "portal" and 105 man roster limits does help to mitigate that a lot. Back in the day, would have been looking at 2-3 year to rebuild roster. Today, most of that can be done in 2-3 months
Pat Kraft as a boss. Nice to have someone willing to mortgage to the hilt to give you money, but whatever rep PK had 6 months ago, it is far worse today after the nasty divorce with (former) HCJF.
Pat Kraft running the search show, assuming he will be, which I think is a pretty good bet. Limited track record vav coaching hires is "not good".
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Good post.

I think you’re underestimating how much people will find Pat Kraft as a boss appealing. He wants to win a championship, his bosses want to win a championship, the donor base wants a championship. Pressure, but they’ll all also provide almost any resource you tell them you need.
If that seems bad, there are any number of places that will have less pressure, fewer resources, and lesser pay. But all these guys have egos and never look at the downside. They all believe they can do anything if not held back. They won’t be held back by anyone but themselves.
 
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DaytonRickster said:
I don't have much confidence in Kraft based on his previous AD jobs; even here. Who are the quality hires he has made?

He better not be trying to bring Rhule to PSU.

I wonder, has he spoken with any of the following?
- Elko (Texas A & M)
- Stein (Oregon OC)
- Broom (Louisviille)
- Kiffin (Ole Miss)
- Key (GT)
- Clark Lea (Vandy)
- Diaz (Duke)
- Sumraill (Tulane)
- Chesney (JMU)
- Brady (Bill's OC)
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That's a pretty solid list. I would not be surprised to see the HC hire come from one of those - along with Rhule
 
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DaytonRickster said:
I don't have much confidence in Kraft based on his previous AD jobs; even here. Who are the quality hires he has made?

He better not be trying to bring Rhule to PSU.

I wonder, has he spoken with any of the following?
- Elko (Texas A & M)
- Stein (Oregon OC)
- Brohm (Louisviille)
- Kiffin (Ole Miss)
- Key (GT)
- Clark Lea (Vandy)
- Diaz (Duke)
- Sumraill (Tulane)
- Chesney (JMU)
- Brady (Bill's OC)
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You forgot one

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PSU4U

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Arivacalion said:
Seriously. The entire nation waits with baided breath to see if we can steal Nebraskas head coach who has an even worse record against top 15 teams. He's 5-2 and they are saying if he simply goes 8-4 he's got the job.

Other than that? That's it. All of the other names either don't want the job or will be coaching into Late January in the playoffs. The hire can't wait until then and you can't hire a coach to do nothing for a month and a half while your roster leaves.

Meanwhile every other coach in the nation is now cashing in on record setting contracts to keep them from going to Penn State, but I still can't find the coach who wants the gig.

This sounds insane but maybe just make Terry Smith the head coach regardless if we finish 3-9 or 6-6, and 6-6 is best case scenario. Not kidding...he might be the only way. Either that or bring back Manny, who I think would both want and take the job. Who would have believed that in late October the Penn State football job is the equivalent of the Penn State basketball job.
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1st of all it's probably not going to the end of the season. Contrary to popular belief supposed lists are 75% bs. The list is and was from the beginning short. Go back and watch Kraft's presser. He laid out his criteria that should help everyone narrow down the real possibilities. They aren't/weren't who people think they are/were but are high end with salaries ranging from 3.7 million to 9 million plus.
 
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PSU4U

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We'll be fine. I agree I'm not excited of the prospect of Rhule getting hired and hope we do better.
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Rhule for all intents and purposes is off the list or so far down he would have little to no chance at this point. While Rhule has support among fans and some in the PS admin he has more detractors. If he were to end up the pick something would have gone drastically wrong.
 
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PSU4U said:
Rhule for all intents and purposes is off the list or so far down he would have little to no chance at this point. While Rhule has support among fans and some in the PS admin he has more detractors. If he were to end up the pick something would have gone drastically wrong.
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How in the world do you know where Ruhle is on the list? My guess is it’s either Ruhle or Campbell.
 
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DaytonRickster said:
I don't have much confidence in Kraft based on his previous AD jobs; even here. Who are the quality hires he has made?

He better not be trying to bring Rhule to PSU.

I wonder, has he spoken with any of the following?
- Elko (Texas A & M)
- Stein (Oregon OC)
- Brohm (Louisviille)
- Kiffin (Ole Miss)
- Key (GT)
- Clark Lea (Vandy)
- Diaz (Duke)
- Sumraill (Tulane)
- Chesney (JMU)
- Brady (Bill's OC)
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There are no assistant coaches on the list and no pro coaches HC's or assistants. Of that list Elko Lea Diaz Sumrall are good.
 
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You're going to give yourself an aneurysm if you are freaking out about coaching carousel rumors on a daily basis. We aren't likely to announce a hire until December, so the rumor mill is going to run wild for an extended time period.
 
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PSUSignore said:
You're going to give yourself an aneurysm if you are freaking out about coaching carousel rumors on a daily basis. We aren't likely to announce a hire until December, so the rumor mill is going to run wild for an extended time period.
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December? LOL need it before December
 
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Arivacalion

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PSUSignore said:
You're going to give yourself an aneurysm if you are freaking out about coaching carousel rumors on a daily basis. We aren't likely to announce a hire until December, so the rumor mill is going to run wild for an extended time period.
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If you hire either an assistant or a head coach from a playoff bound team you are losing your players and losing two months
 
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Arivacalion said:
Seriously. The entire nation waits with baided breath to see if we can steal Nebraskas head coach who has an even worse record against top 15 teams. He's 5-2 and they are saying if he simply goes 8-4 he's got the job.

Other than that? That's it. All of the other names either don't want the job or will be coaching into Late January in the playoffs. The hire can't wait until then and you can't hire a coach to do nothing for a month and a half while your roster leaves.

Meanwhile every other coach in the nation is now cashing in on record setting contracts to keep them from going to Penn State, but I still can't find the coach who wants the gig.

This sounds insane but maybe just make Terry Smith the head coach regardless if we finish 3-9 or 6-6, and 6-6 is best case scenario. Not kidding...he might be the only way. Either that or bring back Manny, who I think would both want and take the job. Who would have believed that in late October the Penn State football job is the equivalent of the Penn State basketball job.
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You're like the overly-made-up spoiled self-proclaimed "princess" who breaks up with her boyfriend because she's too good for him, and she's going to land Harry Styles, instead. A few days after the break-up, she's on the corner begging for money, screaming "why doesn't anyone want me!?!"

Just pop some Xanax and chill the eff out.
 
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PSUFTG

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donaldfair71 said:
Good post.

I think you’re underestimating how much people will find Pat Kraft as a boss appealing. He wants to win a championship, his bosses want to win a championship, the donor base wants a championship. Pressure, but they’ll all also provide almost any resource you tell them you need.
If that seems bad, there are any number of places that will have less pressure, fewer resources, and lesser pay. But all these guys have egos and never look at the downside. They all believe they can do anything if not held back. They won’t be held back by anyone but themselves.
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Yep. You never know - and in the end, it comes down to two guys looking across the table from one another - the AD (assuming he is making the call) and the Coach, and deciding if they feel comfortable with one another. No way to confidently predict that aspect.
That's why I would wager dollars to donuts that Rhule is on the top of PK's list - and vis versa. (and also why PK was running for that Nebraska AD position)

I do believe that PK's rep among potential coaches is not nearly as strong as some might think - and that about the only asset he brings to the table among many in that group is "We will give you a lot of $". But there are several programs that would offer a lot of $ - in terms of salary, budget, and other resources - just about all the SEC programs, just about all the Big Ten programs, and then a fistful of other P4 programs.
I don't believe most potential coaches are warm and fuzzy about having an AD who tries to play the role of de-facto head coach, rather than chief administrator who works on getting things "aligned" for the Head Coach. And that is a small fraternity, where word gets around. That has to hurt PK/PSU, I would think - but is not necessarily insurmountable - especially if one is signing blank checks.

Time will tell.
 
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