Does anyone WANT the job?
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Yet you still haven’t said how you know that. Your guess is the same as anyone else’s.
Should be before Thanksgiving but could go to December if things begin to fall apart again. The more the list shortens and it was short to begin with the more a Matt Rhule becomes possible. Let's all hope and pray it doesn't get that bad. As I said before I would take Greg Schiano long before I would ever take Rhule.
Well, they aren’t renaming them for former coaches.
So we might see Adidas Avenue, Apple Way, and Pepsi Parkway?
who do you think it becomes if not Matt Rhule and if before Thanksgiving
Here’s what I don’t understand.
Why is Matt Rhule more desirable than some of the g5 coaches that should almost certainly be attainable? Or Schiano for that matter.
Kind of feels like accepting a ceiling in exchange for a known commodity.
As one poster asked the other day;
If Matt Rhule was NOT a Penn State letterman, and you looked at his record, would those wanting him now, still want him?
Relax. You have gone into full blown panic mode. It’s not necessary. You have resorted to mentioning people who have zero chance of replacing Franklin as head coach. Terry Smith and Matt Rhule were never going to get the job. Don’t buy into the media propaganda pumping up Rhule. It’s just ridiculous.
Lastly, give Kraft some credit. He is an experienced AD. As the late great John Wooden once said, “be quick but don’t hurry”.
It is best to make the right decision than a fast decision. Let Kraft do his job and stay patient.
Obviously, your question wasn't directed at me - but I think the obvious answer is PK and MR are BFFs.
He wouldn't be the most exciting hire, but I certainly wouldn't be disappointed. Ignoring the PSU alum angle, he'd likely be a candidate for his previous work with our AD, his success at 3 different schools (one in PA, one in the B1G), and his PA roots.
Huge amount of success at Temple based on their historical norm. Enough success at Baylor to land an NFL head coaching job. Jury is still out at Nebraska, but certainly has raised their level of play from the prior regime. Don't think it's wrong to say he's now found success to this point at all 3 college stops.
I don't see Kraft as a negative in the process. He is a smart guy and will open the checkbook. He's aggressive and wants to win national championships plus he passionately believes we can. Hiring a coach is not a perfect science. Do you think the Indiana AD is some cevant because he nabbed Cignetti? I won't say he was lucky but you never really know no matter how much research analysis and interviewing you do.
The only negatives of the job are that the expectations are through the roof (NC contender every year expectations) and related to that is can the new coach be given enough time to rebuild to get there. But I don't want the new coach to shy away from the big expectations of this job. I want a guy who will embrace it and a guy who is timid about that we don't want. We need a guy with some swagger and bravado like Cignetti. A guy who has presence and can command a lockeroom and not try to appease every ego to the detriment of leading the team to success.
I would not categorize his first job in big boy college football as a success by any stretch of the imagination. He is a c+ coach. If we hire Rhule we should organize an effort to fire Kraft.
Yeah that’s about it.
Reap what you sow, and all that, but we’ll be doing the head coach search thing in 3-4 years again.
If we hire Rhule, I’ll support him and look forward to seeing what he can do. So count me out on your effort to rally the troops and fire Dr Kraft.
His record against good teams is abysmal. It’s worse than abysmal.
He’s in Year 3 and his offensive line had to be one of the 2-3 worst in the league.
He wouldn’t be a candidate any more than PJ Fleck, Bret Bielema, and other guys who have only beaten him, never losing to him.
If Rhule is the Ceiling PS is in trouble and Kraft will have effectively ended his career at PS.
Short term pain for hopefully long term gain. You don’t hire just to hire, but you know that.
When has he had success at a school in the Big 10?
So far it's been a 5-7 regular season, a 6-6 regular season and now he's 5-2 ...
I don't think he's beaten a ranked team yet.
No need to organize. If Krafty Pat effs up this hiring decision, he will effectively fire himself.
Temple
The 4 years prior to Rhule: 30-19
The Rhule years: 28-20
3 years after Rhule: 23-16
Baylor
The 4 years prior to Rhule: 39-13
The Rhule years: 19-20
The 4 years after: 23-25
Just because Carolina has a half wit owner, that doesn’t mean we have to act like the guy should have been an NFL coach then hold that up as evidence he’s qualified. His results at that level show he wasn’t.
If Kraft hires Rhule, that's going to be a big problem with the majority of PSU fans! The fear is that the Elite big-money people and the Board of Trustees would like to have him. Why would you pay $48 million to get rid of a guy if you're going to replace him with a Coach who has a worse winning % in big-time games! I am going to say it, but I think Franklin had another factor that some PSU groups wanted him out, and I will leave it at that!
No no no. I’m not saying he’s the ceiling as a hire.
I’m saying, by hiring him, you’re accepting a known ceiling (wins -wise) so you can sell that your hire is stable and a known commodity.
There are others out there who have higher ceilings and maybe lower floors, and you’re saying you don’t want to roll the dice on it as an AD.
Your convenient selection of time frames is laughable.
I can add a 4th where there is 3, or make all 3.
I cut off the covid year.
Trust me, none of the permutations help him make a case.
Nope! Correct call but flipping outAre you "flipping out"over Franklin's deserved firing?
If Rhule is hired, yep All of the recently posted statistics about Rhule’s overall tenure at Nebraska demonstrate he is a middling head coach. It is year three and he has yet to leverage the significant resources of a historical blue blood into anything substantial. He is surrounded by big cornfed midwestern boys like the ones we saw on the Iowa lines last night and yet has one of the worst ol’s in the conference. He has a 5 star qb who performs eerily similar to Allar. It would be a failure to hire Rhule. A number of posters here are right that he would not be a consideration if he was not PSU.
I would like to flip it around:
What has Matt Rhule done to prove he is worthy of a top 10-12 job in America? Getting hired a lot isn’t a qualification.
Elko unless he says no. If he does, then one of Lea Diaz or Mullen as a dark horse at this point but that's just me. All have Northeast connections and coaching experience. Something Kraft mentioned as a plus. Kraft wanted the coach to be NIL savvy and experienced in Transfer Portal successes. All of the above seem to fit Kraft's interests. Mullens salary is 3.5 million buyout of 12 million. Elko's salary is 7 million I think. Lea's salary is 3 million plus Diaz salary 4 million. No other mentioned candidates fit all of Kraft's mentioned connections.