Thank you for correcting me.No no no. I’m not saying he’s the ceiling as a hire.
I’m saying, by hiring him, you’re accepting a known ceiling (wins -wise) so you can sell that your hire is stable and a known commodity.
There are others out there who have higher ceilings and maybe lower floors, and you’re saying you don’t want to roll the dice on it as an AD.
Diaz. We are not getting Elko or LeaElko unless he says no. If he does, then one of Lea Diaz or Mullen as a dark horse at this point but that's just me. All have Northeast connections and coaching experience. Something Kraft mentioned as a plus. Kraft wanted the coach to be NIL savvy and experienced in Transfer Portal successes. All of the above seem to fit Kraft's interests. Mullens salary is 3.5 million buyout of 12 million. Elko's salary is 7 million I think. Lea's salary is 3 million plus Diaz salary 4 million. No other mentioned candidates fit all of Kraft's mentioned connections.
I assumed he meant Saban because he does the AFLAC commercials?Say what? they are renaming streets for sponsors?
Could be on Elko why not Lea?Diaz. We are not getting Elko or Lea
My fault, I tend to ramble and the message wasn’t expressed on my end as I wished.Thank you for correcting me.
Great post; sobering numbers.Temple
The 4 years prior to Rhule: 30-19
The Rhule years: 28-20
3 years after Rhule: 23-16
Baylor
The 4 years prior to Rhule: 39-13
The Rhule years: 19-20
The 4 years after: 23-25
Just because Carolina has a half wit owner, that doesn’t mean we have to act like the guy should have been an NFL coach then hold that up as evidence he’s qualified. His results at that level show he wasn’t.
Think Lea stays or stays in South. Elko really going to leave Texas A and MCould be on Elko why not Lea?
I don’t know. He’s a hot commodity coming off that UConn loss.Bill OBrien
It's Elko's job if he wants itThink Lea stays or stays in South. Elko really going to leave Texas A and M
How does that work if he’s playing into mid-January?It's Elko's job if he wants it
Love itSo you want to once again hire a Vanderbilt coach based 2 years and a fluke quarterback portal? How did that Vanderbilt thing go last time? And Elko is not coming here when he has the Aggies in the 4 spot with an SEC title game and a CFP semi final ready for the taking. They will give him the same check that Cignetti and Eli got.
Yes I am freaking out but I say offer Manny the job now and hit the ground running on December 1st and next year put a defense on the field that doesn't give up 300 yards rushing and can get off the field, and hey, for all I care let Manny hire a team of chimps to coordinate the offense and coach the wide receivers because they can't possibly be as bad as AK and Hagans
R-E-L-A-XSeriously. The entire nation waits with baided breath to see if we can steal Nebraskas head coach who has an even worse record against top 15 teams. He's 5-2 and they are saying if he simply goes 8-4 he's got the job.
Other than that? That's it. All of the other names either don't want the job or will be coaching into Late January in the playoffs. The hire can't wait until then and you can't hire a coach to do nothing for a month and a half while your roster leaves.
Meanwhile every other coach in the nation is now cashing in on record setting contracts to keep them from going to Penn State, but I still can't find the coach who wants the gig.
This sounds insane but maybe just make Terry Smith the head coach regardless if we finish 3-9 or 6-6, and 6-6 is best case scenario. Not kidding...he might be the only way. Either that or bring back Manny, who I think would both want and take the job. Who would have believed that in late October the Penn State football job is the equivalent of the Penn State basketball job.
He ain’t tell in’ you, Handleman. LolI don't have much confidence in Kraft based on his previous AD jobs; even here. Who are the quality hires he has made?
He better not be trying to bring Rhule to PSU.
I wonder, has he spoken with any of the following?
- Elko (Texas A & M)
- Stein (Oregon OC)
- Brohm (Louisviille)
- Kiffin (Ole Miss)
- Key (GT)
- Clark Lea (Vandy)
- Diaz (Duke)
- Sumraill (Tulane)
- Chesney (JMU)
- Brady (Bill's OC)
Kiffin I do not want. No integrity and most likely going to FloridaHe ain’t tell in’ you, Handleman. Lol
We waitHow does that work if he’s playing into mid-January?
Absolutely. It's not sexy and it's not a grand slam but how are those two grand slams coordinating our **** show of an offense and defense looking right about now?Love it
Manny can only be paired with a truly innovative OC. Otherwise he could be a downgrade from Franklin.So you want to once again hire a Vanderbilt coach based 2 years and a fluke quarterback portal? How did that Vanderbilt thing go last time? And Elko is not coming here when he has the Aggies in the 4 spot with an SEC title game and a CFP semi final ready for the taking. They will give him the same check that Cignetti and Eli got.
Yes I am freaking out but I say offer Manny the job now and hit the ground running on December 1st and next year put a defense on the field that doesn't give up 300 yards rushing and can get off the field, and hey, for all I care let Manny hire a team of chimps to coordinate the offense and coach the wide receivers because they can't possibly be as bad as AK and Hagans
UrbanI don't see Kraft as a negative in the process. He is a smart guy and will open the checkbook. He's aggressive and wants to win national championships plus he passionately believes we can. Hiring a coach is not a perfect science. Do you think the Indiana AD is some cevant because he nabbed Cignetti? I won't say he was lucky but you never really know no matter how much research analysis and interviewing you do.
The only negatives of the job are that the expectations are through the roof (NC contender every year expectations) and related to that is can the new coach be given enough time to rebuild to get there. But I don't want the new coach to shy away from the big expectations of this job. I want a guy who will embrace it and a guy who is timid about that we don't want. We need a guy with some swagger and bravado like Cignetti. A guy who has presence and can command a lockeroom and not try to appease every ego to the detriment of leading the team to success.
His quarterback at Duke right now is better than anything on our roster.Manny can only be paired with a truly innovative OC. Otherwise he could be a downgrade from Franklin.
Losing homecoming to Northwestern not enough?If Kraft hires Rhule, that's going to be a big problem with the majority of PSU fans! The fear is that the Elite big-money people and the Board of Trustees would like to have him. Why would you pay $48 million to get rid of a guy if you're going to replace him with a Coach who has a worse winning % in big-time games! I am going to say it, but I think Franklin had another factor that some PSU groups wanted him out, and I will leave it at that!
Lando wants to wait until February so that we can sign a bunch of low 3 stars and get some ivy portals. Lando wants 2014 again.We wait
This is about the right coach--as I stated before, everyone is way too worried about the 2026 class
Elko unless he says no. If he does, then one of Lea Diaz or Mullen as a dark horse at this point but that's just me. All have Northeast connections and coaching experience. Something Kraft mentioned as a plus. Kraft wanted the coach to be NIL savvy and experienced in Transfer Portal successes. All of the above seem to fit Kraft's interests. Mullens salary is 3.5 million buyout of 12 million. Elko's salary is 7 million I think. Lea's salary is 3 million plus Diaz salary 4 million. No other mentioned candidates fit all of Kraft's mentioned connections.
Manny is currently 4-3, including an early season loss to Tulane, who is coached by rising star Jon Sumrall. That guy is the real deal and on many of our lists. Manny just lost at home to another rising star on some of our lists - Brent Key of Georgia Tech. Manny has more resources than Sumrall and similar resources as Key. I have less issue with Diaz than I do with Rhule, but both are highly flawed and only on our lists because of their PSU connections. Otherwise neither candidate is on our list or Florida’s list for that matter.. We love familiarity around here.His quarterback at Duke right now is better than anything on our roster.
Again this hire isn't about winning I'm 2026. It's a long term decision. There's no reason who can't hire someone in December or later and be fine.Lando wants to wait until February so that we can sign a bunch of low 3 stars and get some ivy portals. Lando wants 2014 again.
Uh, no. He was shown the door at his last job for not working hard enough. He lied to get out of Florida. He is involved in some shady business deals. He currently makes 7+ million a year with Fox. He has not coached in the NIL era. Too many concerns for such an important hire.Urban
I was mostly joking, though I think NIL/portal would offset some of his recruiting issues. Why is he not a good guy?Dan Mullen got bounced out of Florida for not recruiting well/hard enough. Plus he is not a good guy. We are going to fire Franklin to bring in a guy from Vegas?
He's a scumbag.Kiffin I do not want. No integrity and most likely going to Florida
It’s not as if we have much choice in the matter.Let Kraft do his job and stay patient.
lol, I used to be a regular visitor to the USC board and the meltdown there when Kiffin was hired was epic.He's a scumbag.