Does anyone WANT the job?

PSU4U

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No no no. I’m not saying he’s the ceiling as a hire.
I’m saying, by hiring him, you’re accepting a known ceiling (wins -wise) so you can sell that your hire is stable and a known commodity.
There are others out there who have higher ceilings and maybe lower floors, and you’re saying you don’t want to roll the dice on it as an AD.
Thank you for correcting me.
 

Rudy4526

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Elko unless he says no. If he does, then one of Lea Diaz or Mullen as a dark horse at this point but that's just me. All have Northeast connections and coaching experience. Something Kraft mentioned as a plus. Kraft wanted the coach to be NIL savvy and experienced in Transfer Portal successes. All of the above seem to fit Kraft's interests. Mullens salary is 3.5 million buyout of 12 million. Elko's salary is 7 million I think. Lea's salary is 3 million plus Diaz salary 4 million. No other mentioned candidates fit all of Kraft's mentioned connections.
Diaz. We are not getting Elko or Lea
 

84lion

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Temple
The 4 years prior to Rhule: 30-19
The Rhule years: 28-20
3 years after Rhule: 23-16
Baylor
The 4 years prior to Rhule: 39-13
The Rhule years: 19-20
The 4 years after: 23-25

Just because Carolina has a half wit owner, that doesn’t mean we have to act like the guy should have been an NFL coach then hold that up as evidence he’s qualified. His results at that level show he wasn’t.
Great post; sobering numbers.

Rhule was preceded at Temple by none other than Al Golden and Steve Addazio. Golden was really the one who "rebuilt" the program to 8-4 and 9-4 seasons before leaving. Addazio followed up that success in his first year but not the second, and also left Temple. Rhule had a horrible first year, then went 6-6, then proceeded to put together two 10-win seasons and 1st place finishes in the AAC East. Baylor was doing very well under Art Briles until the scandal that forced his exit; Jim Grobe coached one year and actually got a 7-6 record. Rhule's first year was 1-11, then 7-6, then 11-3, and a tie for 1st in the Big 12. As far as Nebraska, Rhule did get the Huskers to their first bowl game since 2016. He's 5-2 this year, and I thought he was doing quite well, until that debacle at Minnesota the other night. Nebraska's got Northwestern this week, then USC, then away games at UCLA and Penn State, then finishing up with Iowa at home. I'm waiting to see what Nebraska does against Northwestern; otherwise, Penn State could be the only sure win on that remaining schedule, and who knows whether Penn State packs it in or treats it as their bowl game.

I agree, Rhule is not a "home run" hire when considering his record. He did put together some conference championships at Temple and Baylor, but we're talking AAC and Big 12. I like the "idea" of Matt Rhule as a Penn State alum and presumably "good guy," but if we're looking for an "upgrade," not so much.

I still say Urban Meyer is the only choice if Kraft is really serious about winning NCs.
 

Arivacalion

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So you want to once again hire a Vanderbilt coach based 2 years and a fluke quarterback portal? How did that Vanderbilt thing go last time? And Elko is not coming here when he has the Aggies in the 4 spot with an SEC title game and a CFP semi final ready for the taking. They will give him the same check that Cignetti and Eli got.

Yes I am freaking out but I say offer Manny the job now and hit the ground running on December 1st and next year put a defense on the field that doesn't give up 300 yards rushing and can get off the field, and hey, for all I care let Manny hire a team of chimps to coordinate the offense and coach the wide receivers because they can't possibly be as bad as AK and Hagans
 

Rudy4526

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So you want to once again hire a Vanderbilt coach based 2 years and a fluke quarterback portal? How did that Vanderbilt thing go last time? And Elko is not coming here when he has the Aggies in the 4 spot with an SEC title game and a CFP semi final ready for the taking. They will give him the same check that Cignetti and Eli got.

Yes I am freaking out but I say offer Manny the job now and hit the ground running on December 1st and next year put a defense on the field that doesn't give up 300 yards rushing and can get off the field, and hey, for all I care let Manny hire a team of chimps to coordinate the offense and coach the wide receivers because they can't possibly be as bad as AK and Hagans
Love it
 
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MacNit

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Seriously. The entire nation waits with baided breath to see if we can steal Nebraskas head coach who has an even worse record against top 15 teams. He's 5-2 and they are saying if he simply goes 8-4 he's got the job.

Other than that? That's it. All of the other names either don't want the job or will be coaching into Late January in the playoffs. The hire can't wait until then and you can't hire a coach to do nothing for a month and a half while your roster leaves.

Meanwhile every other coach in the nation is now cashing in on record setting contracts to keep them from going to Penn State, but I still can't find the coach who wants the gig.

This sounds insane but maybe just make Terry Smith the head coach regardless if we finish 3-9 or 6-6, and 6-6 is best case scenario. Not kidding...he might be the only way. Either that or bring back Manny, who I think would both want and take the job. Who would have believed that in late October the Penn State football job is the equivalent of the Penn State basketball job.
R-E-L-A-X
 

MacNit

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I don't have much confidence in Kraft based on his previous AD jobs; even here. Who are the quality hires he has made?

He better not be trying to bring Rhule to PSU.

I wonder, has he spoken with any of the following?
- Elko (Texas A & M)
- Stein (Oregon OC)
- Brohm (Louisviille)
- Kiffin (Ole Miss)
- Key (GT)
- Clark Lea (Vandy)
- Diaz (Duke)
- Sumraill (Tulane)
- Chesney (JMU)
- Brady (Bill's OC)
He ain’t tell in’ you, Handleman. Lol
 

Arivacalion

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Absolutely. It's not sexy and it's not a grand slam but how are those two grand slams coordinating our **** show of an offense and defense looking right about now?

I say hire Manny Diaz and don't look back. He understands the culture, the big donors will absolutely love him as opposed to Franklin who they hated, and he damn well can get us back to the CFP. There were less than 5 possible hires that you could have dreamed that would be certain things for a natty, and none of them are walking through that door, and the others won't walk through it until February. That's too late.

Manny Diaz.
 
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LMTLION

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So you want to once again hire a Vanderbilt coach based 2 years and a fluke quarterback portal? How did that Vanderbilt thing go last time? And Elko is not coming here when he has the Aggies in the 4 spot with an SEC title game and a CFP semi final ready for the taking. They will give him the same check that Cignetti and Eli got.

Yes I am freaking out but I say offer Manny the job now and hit the ground running on December 1st and next year put a defense on the field that doesn't give up 300 yards rushing and can get off the field, and hey, for all I care let Manny hire a team of chimps to coordinate the offense and coach the wide receivers because they can't possibly be as bad as AK and Hagans
Manny can only be paired with a truly innovative OC. Otherwise he could be a downgrade from Franklin.
 

MacNit

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I don't see Kraft as a negative in the process. He is a smart guy and will open the checkbook. He's aggressive and wants to win national championships plus he passionately believes we can. Hiring a coach is not a perfect science. Do you think the Indiana AD is some cevant because he nabbed Cignetti? I won't say he was lucky but you never really know no matter how much research analysis and interviewing you do.

The only negatives of the job are that the expectations are through the roof (NC contender every year expectations) and related to that is can the new coach be given enough time to rebuild to get there. But I don't want the new coach to shy away from the big expectations of this job. I want a guy who will embrace it and a guy who is timid about that we don't want. We need a guy with some swagger and bravado like Cignetti. A guy who has presence and can command a lockeroom and not try to appease every ego to the detriment of leading the team to success.
Urban
 

Arivacalion

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And geez, now I am thinking about the last time we hired a coach who didn't walk in the building until February... and damn now I remember, he took over a team that should have finished 11-1 and sure enough he lost that time and they went out and lost to Ohio University and Virginia to open the season.

February is too late.
 

MacNit

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If Kraft hires Rhule, that's going to be a big problem with the majority of PSU fans! The fear is that the Elite big-money people and the Board of Trustees would like to have him. Why would you pay $48 million to get rid of a guy if you're going to replace him with a Coach who has a worse winning % in big-time games! I am going to say it, but I think Franklin had another factor that some PSU groups wanted him out, and I will leave it at that!
Losing homecoming to Northwestern not enough?
 
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Arivacalion

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We wait
This is about the right coach--as I stated before, everyone is way too worried about the 2026 class
Lando wants to wait until February so that we can sign a bunch of low 3 stars and get some ivy portals. Lando wants 2014 again.
 

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Elko unless he says no. If he does, then one of Lea Diaz or Mullen as a dark horse at this point but that's just me. All have Northeast connections and coaching experience. Something Kraft mentioned as a plus. Kraft wanted the coach to be NIL savvy and experienced in Transfer Portal successes. All of the above seem to fit Kraft's interests. Mullens salary is 3.5 million buyout of 12 million. Elko's salary is 7 million I think. Lea's salary is 3 million plus Diaz salary 4 million. No other mentioned candidates fit all of Kraft's mentioned connections.
 

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LMTLION

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His quarterback at Duke right now is better than anything on our roster.
Manny is currently 4-3, including an early season loss to Tulane, who is coached by rising star Jon Sumrall. That guy is the real deal and on many of our lists. Manny just lost at home to another rising star on some of our lists - Brent Key of Georgia Tech. Manny has more resources than Sumrall and similar resources as Key. I have less issue with Diaz than I do with Rhule, but both are highly flawed and only on our lists because of their PSU connections. Otherwise neither candidate is on our list or Florida’s list for that matter.. We love familiarity around here.
 
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Lando wants to wait until February so that we can sign a bunch of low 3 stars and get some ivy portals. Lando wants 2014 again.
Again this hire isn't about winning I'm 2026. It's a long term decision. There's no reason who can't hire someone in December or later and be fine.
 
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Dan Mullen got bounced out of Florida for not recruiting well/hard enough. Plus he is not a good guy. We are going to fire Franklin to bring in a guy from Vegas?
 
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Dan Mullen got bounced out of Florida for not recruiting well/hard enough. Plus he is not a good guy. We are going to fire Franklin to bring in a guy from Vegas?
I was mostly joking, though I think NIL/portal would offset some of his recruiting issues. Why is he not a good guy?
 

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Forgive me if this seems out of leftfield, but...

To what extent does the State College airport matter? I can't stop thinking about this. If I'm a sought-after recruit, if I'm a reputable head coach... and I know that the situation at Penn State is, "Any time you have an away game, you have to take the bus to Harrisburg," (1 hr. 30 min.) -- that's definitely something I'm thinking about. I don't know that I want to do that all the time.

For any of us that travel a lot, we know the sting. It sucks. Hell, for those of us that live in the Los Angeles area, we don't even like to go our own airport! It's actually worth it for me to spend an additional $100+ on airfare if I can get a flight out of Burbank.

I dunno. Maybe I'm overselling it. But to me... it doesn't seem like nothing. I do agree with Franklin on this one. Come on, son. You got all these athletic teams that constantly need to fly out to get to road games... freakin' expand the airport so they can leave from there.
 
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