my mom took a serious turn for the worse about 10 days ago.....so bad she was put into intensive care and not expected to live. After 7 days she was put in "comfort care" because, according to her social worker, under obamacare guidelines she had been in intensive care long enough. She is doing a little better but now they want her out of the hospital so they moved her to a rehab facility, BEFORE her doctor said she is ready, because obamacare said she'd been in the hospital long enough. But here's the catch. The social worker told my brother that if a patient is readmitted to a hospital within a certain amount of time, even if it's for a completely different reason, that hospital will be penalized financially. Don't you think that it would stand to reason that they would want to keep her long enough originally to avoid having to readmit her and suffer the penalty?........evidently not, which makes no sense whatsoever........remember....." you've got to pass the bill to see what's in it"?.....well, here's a perfect example of how screwed up our healthcare system has become..........so now, all you liberals lambaste me and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about in 3.....2.....1.......
Does this seem a little strange to you
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"Obamacare" has nothing to do with it. This is complete ******** perpetuated by someone with an agenda. I obviously don't know the specifics but this is likely an insurance issue. I'm sure you mother has Medicare which is a pretty solid insurance plan. The thing about health insurance companies is they love the part about accepting the premiums. The part about paying for the care is what they often take issue with. I wish your mom well, but anyone with a computer and google can determine what is in the ACA. As a health care provider who bills every type of insurance that there is, I can assure you that "Obamacare" does not dictate in any way the care provided to patients.
Sorry about your mother. Asking liberals to scrutinize the garbage authored by their icon and god is a mission impossible. Your talking to a box of rocks.
Translated: I know noyhing about your specifics, however I'm going to defend the ACA regardless of said specific knowledge regardless of how it impacts real people.
The penalty was put in there to promote better care to prevent readmittance. Hospitals release patients as quick as they can and then the govt wants to penalize them if the patients aren't ready to leave and have to be re-admitted. Govt thinking it can fix everything, fixing nothing creating more work for lawyers.
Hospital Re-admissions Reduction Program
Background:
Section 3025 of the Affordable Care Act added section 1886(q) to the Social Security Act establishing the Hospital Readmissions Reduction Program, which requires CMS to reduce payments to IPPS hospitals with excess readmissions, effective for discharges beginning on October 1, 2012. The regulations that implement this provision are in subpart I of 42 CFR part 412 (§412.150 through §412.154).
If, and when I enter a hospital going to us Muslim as my religion and sprinkle myself with curry. Then I will get first class service.
His mother's allegedly being kicked out of ICU and penalizing hospitals for excessive re-admissions two completely unrelated issues. Next thing you know, you'll say that rule is also somehow related to "death panels".
Sorry about your Mom, Snow Sled.
The same thing happened to my Mom in 2006. Very similar circumstances. It was an insurance issue, the fvcking vampires. We were told we had to wait before she could be readmitted to ICU, by then she was on her deathbed and we went with Hospice.
I've wanted to hang insurance execs and hospital admins from the lamp posts ever since. I'm not real fond of doctors, either. Her GP completely blew her initial diagnosis and the specialist treating her didn't know his *** from a hole in the ground.
Remember that social worker is employed by the hospital. I wonder if blaming Obamacare these days may be a way to give hospitals a nice little excuse to cover their *** when they do people dirty? Got to keep turning over those beds to earn more money, the greed heads.
If you can find a good aggressive lawyer, sue all of the bastards.
The same thing happened to my Mom in 2006. Very similar circumstances. It was an insurance issue, the fvcking vampires. We were told we had to wait before she could be readmitted to ICU, by then she was on her deathbed and we went with Hospice.
I've wanted to hang insurance execs and hospital admins from the lamp posts ever since. I'm not real fond of doctors, either. Her GP completely blew her initial diagnosis and the specialist treating her didn't know his *** from a hole in the ground.
Remember that social worker is employed by the hospital. I wonder if blaming Obamacare these days may be a way to give hospitals a nice little excuse to cover their *** when they do people dirty? Got to keep turning over those beds to earn more money, the greed heads.
If you can find a good aggressive lawyer, sue all of the bastards.
my mom, incredible as it may sound, is a little better. Could be the calm before the storm but we don't know. What we DO know is that she's not out of the woods and could have to go back to the hospital, which starts the merry go round all over again.......just another example of the "leadership" of this "administration"
There you have it. I've heard everything blamed on Obamacare by both patients and other doctors. Never mind that Obamacare may have nothing to do with policies and procedures implemented before Obamacare. HIPAA is an obvious example. I've heard doctors at meetings blame Obama for HIPAA when in actuality, it was passed in the 90s. I've heard doctors and patients blame Obamacare for the new requirements in Meaningful Use of EHR. Obamacare has nothing to do with that either. Obama is the whipping boy for the right while any inefficiency is discovered in healthcare. But in actuality, the majority of the problems in delivery of healthcare is rooted in the greed of insurance companies. And if there is any failure of Obamacare, it was allowing involvement of those companies in writing the legislation. I could cite statistics about profit, talk about the multimillion dollar compensation packages of the Cigna and Uniteds and BC/BCs out there at the expense of denying patient care but the bottom line is that, imo, insurance companies should be removed from the equation and a single-payer system implemented. It works quite well in other western democracies and it will work here. Medicare proves that it will. We just need politicians with enough backbone to stand up to the greedy insurance special interests. The key stakeholders win and that is patients and providers.