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Not Even DOGE Employees Know Who’s Legally Running DOGE

Despite all appearances, the White House insists that Elon Musk is not in charge of DOGE. US DOGE Service employees can’t get a straight answer about who is.

www.wired.com

So Musk and Trump said Musk is running it, but Musk isnt running it, and nobody knows who is running it, and Musk isnt an employee of the WH, and Musk is an employee of the WH, and 25% of the staff was fired.

Yep, that conflicting and confusing summary tracks with the chaos of Doge over the last month.

Also on wired.com :


you tried to pull a fast one, didn’t you glfr?

 

[QuaoarsKing]

$54 million in condoms is wasteful. Its very likely its fraudulent too.

There's your example of a lie from Musk, one that he has admitted he "got wrong." How is even possible to know about the condom story without hearing it was a hoax?

 

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It was both. I was never a huge Harris fanboy (in contrast to Biden), but she would have been an acceptable "generic Democrat" which works for me.

I never liked Trump obviously, but after January 6 (and really the 2 months of lies leading up to it) I would have voted for any plausible Democratic nominee over him.

Damn, he still believes in the January 6th fairytale? Tough look

 

[BigHarryBolz]

Not Even DOGE Employees Know Who’s Legally Running DOGE

Despite all appearances, the White House insists that Elon Musk is not in charge of DOGE. US DOGE Service employees can’t get a straight answer about who is.

www.wired.com

So Musk and Trump said Musk is running it, but Musk isnt running it, and nobody knows who is running it, and Musk isnt an employee of the WH, and Musk is an employee of the WH, and 25% of the staff was fired.

Yep, that conflicting and confusing summary tracks with the chaos of Doge over the last month.

Actually musk is a part of obamacare. Epic!

 

[horshack.sixpack]

Cry more.

FYI, i hope they cut all the catholic funding and church funding. If i wanna fund the church or africans or gays or whatever, i can do it myself.

We obviously have to have some sort of USAID foot print but it should be very transparent. ITS NOT.

I like that hatefulness and cruelty are American standards now.*** If you had told me 10 years ago that there would come a day that the easiest way to figure out who was a traitor to our Constitution and country was to look at the people who call themselves "patriots", I would have laughed at you. If you had also told me that 50% of our country would support a narcissist who wants to be king and ignore our constitution and laws I would have probably suggested you get help. Yet here we are. He said he wanted to be dictator. You elected him. He is now forcing us into a constitutional crisis and our only real hope is that it holds or that there are enough decent humans in Congress who will grow a spine and perform their duty to the Constitution rather than bow to their dictator.

 

[maroontide06]

In b4 the

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

I find it interesting that when Bill Clinton and Barack Obama searched through what we spent, they found waste. It was OK, but we can't have Elon Musk do it cause he's not Jesus or one of his disciples. We demand that a president himself look through everything. Whether he is qualified or not, it has to be the president. I'm all for looking for is wasteful spending. I don't give a &%$ whether it is considered fraud or not. I just want to know if my tax dollars are being spent in the proper places. I'm sure they can find fear-mongering for and against stopping spending money. I also find it interesting that the people who are spending the tax dollars are the people who are raising the most hell. In the days that eggs cost more for a dozen than a gallon of gas, we have serious problems, and we had to start somewhere.

 

[HailStout]

I occasionally have patients that are supposed to die in a month and live for years. This thread is one of those patients

 

[Ranchdawg]

Are (almost)all those people over 60 actually receiving SS checks regardless of if they are alive or dead?
...or is this list just a list of people who have recevied SS checks at one time and havent been purged from the system, but arent necessarily receiving checks?
...or is this a list of people who have SS#s and show as 'alive' in some database, even though they may have been dead for decades(centuries!) and it isnt even tied to SS payments?


I mean, there is a HUGE difference between the 3 scenarios above, and any of them could be accurate(or additional scenarios too) based on what little info is released thru a tweet and rumors that mask as news stories.



Like so much over the last 9 years, I struggle to tell where the truth begins and the lies take over. Its due to agendas, a lack of well reported information, social media having no accountability to truth, and a shoot first ask questions later style of discourse by many 'leaders'.



ETA- if this is a list of people actually receiving SS checks, then everyone under 60 is also receiving checks? Of course not, so it cant be a list of everyone who is receiving SS checks. Then what is it actually a list of? Is it really just a list of people who are marked 'alive'? Well ok then, lets clean that up I guess, but why is it a 'huge problem'? Looks like some people who are dead werent reported as dead. Cool- have people work on cleaning up the list...that will require staffing, to be clear.
Still not sure why it is a 'huge problem' that needs to be tweeted about and held up as some example of corruption and wasteful spending.
Hopefully someone smarter than me, so most anyone according to SPS, can explain how much wasteful spending this stops.

Anyone signing a deceased person's SS check should go straight to jail.

 

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I like that hatefulness and cruelty are American standards now.*** If you had told me 10 years ago that there would come a day that the easiest way to figure out who was a traitor to our Constitution and country was to look at the people who call themselves "patriots", I would have laughed at you. If you had also told me that 50% of our country would support a narcissist who wants to be king and ignore our constitution and laws I would have probably suggested you get help. Yet here we are. He said he wanted to be dictator. You elected him. He is now forcing us into a constitutional crisis and our only real hope is that it holds or that there are enough decent humans in Congress who will grow a spine and perform their duty to the Constitution rather than bow to their dictator.

Horshack is easily one of my fav posters on here. His political commentary is next level lol.

Every night after we say our prayers, my four year old looks up at me and says “are you ready daddy?” And we stand together and Heil Trump!

But honestly, when will the dictator schtick end? I thought it had ran its course by now

 

[BigHarryBolz]

There's your example of a lie from Musk, one that he has admitted he "got wrong." How is even possible to know about the condom story without hearing it was a hoax?

You might wanna read this article closely and then reread my post. Hint: dont just read the headline.

Fact Check: No evidence US spent $50 million on condoms for Gaza | Reuters

 

[Ranchdawg]

There have been countless people who have resigned in the last few weeks that havent been accused of doing anything wrong.
She also hasnt been accused of doing anything wrong. I mean like actually accused by someone with knowledge. Twitter accusing her or anyone else is...well its Twitter.



This is Twitter in a nutshell...and its also a ton of people on SPS.

Except for not doing her job.

 

[M R DAWGS]

This system of checks and balances seems something that any solid, civilized and non-corrupt government would already have in place.

 

[mstateglfr]

Also on wired.com :
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you tried to pull a fast one, didn’t you glfr?

Wait, what? What one did I try to pull? I googled and then selected one of the top articles that was not from ABC because I figured someone might complain that it was from ABC.

 

[POTUS]

USAID - provided 50% of Catholic Relief Services funding. They are the largest Christian aid organization in the world. 50% cut without any analysis or concern for the lives worldwide who are affected. The Trump org put out a dozen bullet points about USAID funding stuff they had found, with all the appropriate LGBTQ+ dog whistles, but as it turns out, 11 of those were not USAID funded and multiple, including the two most egregious offenses were State Department funded. Of course, I made the mistake of listening to one of Trumps speaking engagements last week were he thoroughly confused US National Debt with US trade deficits, so I'm sure we are on the right track. I mean at least he is honoring the Constitution and the law throughout the process.***

I'm sure it was quite surprising for you to hear the President speak at all. I mean after all, your guy would've been napping at that time.

 

[BigHarryBolz]

I like that hatefulness and cruelty are American standards now.*** If you had told me 10 years ago that there would come a day that the easiest way to figure out who was a traitor to our Constitution and country was to look at the people who call themselves "patriots", I would have laughed at you. If you had also told me that 50% of our country would support a narcissist who wants to be king and ignore our constitution and laws I would have probably suggested you get help. Yet here we are. He said he wanted to be dictator. You elected him. He is now forcing us into a constitutional crisis and our only real hope is that it holds or that there are enough decent humans in Congress who will grow a spine and perform their duty to the Constitution rather than bow to their dictator.

TLDR.

Is it really hateful to not want to send:

$54 million to africa in contraceptives?
millions to other countries for DEI?
millions for trans initiatives?

Do you really think africa got $54 million in contraceptives? Or is it more plausible they got say $30 million in contraceptives adn the other $24 million went to some rich person or persons or congress people?

Even if it all got to africa, ITS WASTEFUL!!

 

[BigHarryBolz]

This system of checks and balances seems something that any solid, civilized and non-corrupt government would already have in place.

And its really weird people are against it.

 

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Wait, what? What one did I try to pull? I googled and then selected one of the top articles that was not from ABC because I figured someone might complain that it was from ABC.

It’s amazing to me in the year 2025 there are people who still try to play dumb when it comes to media biases. This goes for both sides of the aisle.

 

[ckDOG]

The people who genuinely believe that even a subject matter experts, of which musk is not, could properly evaluate any one of these agencies in the days that it took for them to start cutting crap is quite unbelievable to me. Common sense and critical thinking are as dead as these 150 year olds getting all the SS $$$.

The knee jerk reactions to criticisms of Trump and Elon are getting real creepy. I know they love the some lib owning more than anything but cult like dedication to these guys is weird as hell. I'll get the typical TDS, EDS or whatever the flavor of the week snap back is these days by pointing that out. The programming has stuck well.

I'd like to think strong skepticism on the wealthiest man on earth (who profits off the govt no less) getting all up in the federal government's guts would have been a sourced from all sides. But here we are. Orange daddy gets what Orange daddy wants. Imagine had Obama given Zuck in 2012 the keys to anything he wanted in the name of efficiency and data analysis. The idea we are going about it this way is insane.

Anyhow, since we are here, I hope Elon snuffs out every wasted dollar there is and fixes the deficit problem. Cool with me as long as it's on true waste and not killing programs that Congress has created/funded by law simply bc the current executive doesn't like those programs. GOP has Congress/White House - do it like real men and put your name on it through Congress and a signed law. If it ends up a good thing, accept the victory. If it fails, take the loss. Don't outsource your job and accountability. These guys want their cake and to eat it too.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Damn, he still believes in the January 6th fairytale? Tough look

Jan 6th was downright patriotic compared to the treasonous act of lying to the the American public by the Dem party and the media about Biden's mental health.

 

[POTUS]

The people who sat idly by while a group of staffers ran a shadow government while the elected president slurped tapioca pudding don't get a say anymore. You FA'd. It's time to FO. This is what the people want.

 

[mstateglfr]

Anyone signing a deceased person's SS check should go straight to jail.

OK. I agree. Is that what the list of age ranges shows? Or are you just randomly commenting?

 

[ckDOG]

Damn, he still believes in the January 6th fairytale? Tough look

^Orwell predicted this guy^

 

[BigHarryBolz]

OK. I agree. Is that what the list of age ranges shows? Or are you just randomly commenting?

We don't know what it shows. The problem is even the people working there don't know. Or they won't tell.

But we wanna know what it means. Is it all legit? if so great. ITS NOT!!

 

[mstateglfr]

I find it interesting that when Bill Clinton and Barack Obama searched through what we spent, they found waste. It was OK, but we can't have Elon Musk do it cause he's not Jesus or one of his disciples.

Do your really not see a difference in how it was handled and how it is being handled?
The misinformation, the incorrect information, the shoot first ask questions later approach, the in the moment social media dominated communication...
It is fundamentally different and this approach is, to me, not how audits should be handled.


Also, you cited 2 presidents and Musk, to be clear.

 

[BigHarryBolz]

^Orwell predicted this guy^

Orwell predicted you and glfr and people like you all.

 

[bolddogge]

Again, the idiots fellating Musk over his findings are completely ignoring the size of these organizations and the impossibility of anyone properly analyzing them in days/weeks. If I walked into any one of these poster's businesses and within days told them I'd figured out what they were doing wrong, stopped payment on all outstanding checks to their vendors and fired all the people who were no good, they would howl about the stupidity of the situation.

Never mind the fact that strong man Trump is so weak he has to get someone else to run the country. The weakest picture from the Oval office ever is Elon standing in a t-shirt with a kid on his back subjugating Trump as he sits there looking like a wimp. The US is a laughing stock for the rest of the world rn.

 

[ckDOG]

Jan 6th was downright patriotic compared to the treasonous act of lying to the the American public by the Dem party and the media about Biden's mental health.

I know when I feel patriotic and the president gets the big sads, I find a flag and beat an officer with it. America! 17 yeah!

 

[HailStout]

I truly do enjoy watching how unhinged these threads get. By the third page everyone is basically just saying how fat everyone else’s mom is and that their dad can beat up your dad.

 

[bolddogge]

Damn, he still believes in the January 6th fairytale? Tough look

One of the top 5 easily recognizable TDS symptoms.

 

[mstateglfr]

We don't know what it shows. The problem is even the people working there don't know. Or they won't tell.

But we wanna know what it means. Is it all legit? if so great. ITS NOT!!

Seems like a dumb thing to reference then when claiming fraud.
There are countless claims on SPS and social media that this list proves fraud.

 

[ckDOG]

Orwell predicted you and glfr and people like you all.

Was it the feds that needed pardons for the crimes they plead guilty to or civilians ? I've lost track.

 

[ckDOG]

One of the top 5 easily recognizable TDS symptoms.

TDS! Drink!

 

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And its really weird people are against it.

And it’s really weird that people don’t recognize we’ve been living in a bureaucracy for the last 60+ years. Government employees have been getting increasingly wealthy with each administration. We finally have an administration looking into it, and the QuoarsKing , mstateglfrs , horshack of the world are having a meltdown about it.

I don’t get it. This will be beneficial for everyone who isn’t a lifelong bureaucrat. Something all progressives would’ve celebrated pre 2016.

 

[mstateglfr]

It’s amazing to me in the year 2025 there are people who still try to play dumb when it comes to media biases. This goes for both sides of the aisle.

The wired article is biased? Is that why you claimed I tried to pull a fast one?

If the article has incorrect info, lemme know what it is.

 

[BigHarryBolz]

Was it the feds that needed pardons for the crimes they plead guilty to or citizens? I've lost track.

Not the J6 riot where they were let into the capitol and walked around!! INSURRECTION!!!

17ing loser.

 

[BigHarryBolz]

Seems like a dumb thing to reference then when claiming fraud.
There are countless claims on SPS and social media that this list proves fraud.

They are rightfully saying something seems fishy or weird. They aren't wrong.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

And it’s really weird that people don’t recognize we’ve been living in a bureaucracy for the last 60+ years. Government employees have been getting increasingly wealthy with each administration. We finally have an administration looking into it, and the QuoarsKing , mstateglfrs , horshack of the world are having a meltdown about it.

I don’t get it. This will be beneficial for everyone who isn’t a lifelong bureaucrat. Something all progressives would’ve celebrated pre 2016.

How am I having a meltdown? Unlike many on the opposite side, I've been calm and respectful throughout this thread and others.

 

[BigHarryBolz]

And it’s really weird that people don’t recognize we’ve been living in a bureaucracy for the last 60+ years. Government employees have been getting increasingly wealthy with each administration. We finally have an administration looking into it, and the QuoarsKing , mstateglfrs , horshack of the world are having a meltdown about it.

I don’t get it. This will be beneficial for everyone who isn’t a lifelong bureaucrat. Something all progressives would’ve celebrated pre 2016.

and whats really weird is a traditional conservative republican like ole horsey shaq is upset about making gubment smaller.***

 

[BigHarryBolz]

How am I having a meltdown? Unlike many on the opposite side, I've been calm and respectful throughout this thread and others.

So you gonna admit the $54 million in condoms did happen or you just gonna ignore that?