Landing players Ike Seaton should incline some of you to give. We need those players to compete.
The average fan now has a voice. Use it.
The average fan now has a voice. Use it.
Donate to NIL
- Thread starter TheDawg-Pound
- Start date
It’s free to keep your opinion to yourself, no need add more negativity to the most negative fanbase in CFB. We full up on that.
I don't donate to pro teams so why would I donate to a semi-pro team?
I accidentally hit the wrong button on the credit card machine at Obys one night and donated 65 cents to the Bulldog Initiative. I’m still mad about it, but at least I can say I donated. To each his own, but we feel that something like St. Jude, for example, is a much better option for your donation funds than NIL for some teenagers to play ball. There’s plenty of worthwhile organizations out there, but If supporting NIL is your thing, then more power to you.
Are you saying they need to publish who gives what to the NIL? Uh, no please. I don't want anyone in my business, especially this lot. Maybe you're saying that they should tell us what percentage of the money is corporate or something... I could be misreading it.
Just a general statement and personal opinion, but I do think it's too bad that we can't get some "fans" to contribute even a little.
As Charlie has posted on here and said on his podcast: don't bankrupt yourself, just give what you can. Every little bit helps. If even a small percentage of our living alumni - as brokedick as we seem to be reading this thread - but thousands of people giving $10 per month would help. I piss that much away every morning buying a friggin "nutritional" tea for my daughter on the way to school. Damn right I'm going to give a little to my alma mater. It's not enough to break the bank... Not as much as I give to charity, but it's something.
Seems like everyone (who can afford to) on this board would want to help. Come gameday, we sure act like we care about winning a lot. To me, it would be like the players not going to practice every day but still expecting to win on Saturday. Life doesn't really work that way.
No, I don't want identities disclosed. You can paint a picture of what types of donors are giving and how much with general information. From that you can infer where the "next step" dollars need to come from.
X dollars from top 1, top 5, top 10 donors...Top 50-100, or similar.
Same for individuals.
Compare that to various targets that we want to achieve as a fan base. 10k fans giving $50/month is $6,000,000 recurring annual contribution. Is that juice worth the squeeze or do the numbers above indicate our efforts are better spent going after big fish? I have no idea.
I feel like the "joyful giver" ask is a good one for our fan base on Sunday mornings. We need a better business case presented if we want high count / low dollar contributions to flow enough to move the needle.
Yeah, I'll shank it once in a while... But it will still go 40 yards past your ball when I do. Your driver shaft is limper than overcooked asparagus. Your clubhead speed is measured with a sundial. If you ever broke a tee on a drive, the tee manufacturer would immediately issue a recall. The problem is your LOFT... Lack of 17ing Testicles. You're so weak if you fell in a barrel of tiddies, you'd come out sucking your thumb. You don't golf, you play a marathon game of croquet down the fairway.
I think that State fans are justified in taking a wait and see approach on this. No matter whether you want to compare our incoming portal players vs outgoing by player ratings or actual ‘25 production, there isn’t a ton of difference right now. Maybe these guys will be world beaters, but it’s a little early to be saying that we’ve drastically improved. Especially considering Loadholt’s coaching prowess
That’s fine. A lot of things in ‘25 were out of loadholts control. Blake steen getting a season ending injury week 1. Brennan Smith basically quitting on the team. Pair that with bad evaluations by Friend and Kennedy and you had the mess we had
Ideally I could pick and choose where my money goes - to which team and position group. I can envision a portal in one could log in, select a team and position group, see the potential players/targets, how much we have already available in funds to that group, and how much more is needed. In that scenario if control and transparency, I could see myself donating significantly.
Can you not anymore? I don't give to baseball because I can't get seats (other than periodically giving and tag it just for them).
Right, and to be clear, this is not me saying "give ME more, more, more..."
It's just recognizing that like many others, I'm a middle of the road guy that sits down every weekend to go over our family finances, and I have to make decisions every week. How's retirement looking? Should we be putting more into college funds? Did we spend too much eating out last month? The list goes on and on...
For the boosters with disposable income, more power to you and do whatever the 17 you want with it, but in my household, there's a decision behind every dollar. Selmon's done what any of us would have done by focusing on the big pocket books, so I'm not casting blame for them not coming after my $100. That said, if you're not gonna try, I'm not going to just blindly give it away either. Put some effort into it, and I may reconsider
This is a mindset that I will never understand. The "more important" stuff for your average 40-60 year old State fan isn't always going to be a new bottle of Pappy Van Winkle or a golf outing to Hawaii. It's medical bills, helping kids navigate life, church, and maybe... just maybe, being able to retire one day.
You're also talking about an extremely large group of State fans that have spent tens of thousands of dollars on tickets, tuition, travel, and merchandise over the years while being fed a **** sandwich by our administration more years than not, and they're the ones that you're gonna tell to 17 off? They're the precise ones that every right to moan and groan
I can get on board with the give what you can mindset, but I'm not gonna judge a soul either way. At least not for finding better ways to spend their money than making sure that an 18 year old who may or may not see the field can become an instant millionaire.
So lets just say for conversations sake, the 1.7 million "NIL value" is accurate....if 68,000 of us chip in $25, we've got that covered....maybe he will give us a deal since his previous coach is there, and let's say he settles for a cool mil, then we only need 40,000 of us to chip in $25, just a drop in the bucket.
............................what an absolutely terrible business model this bs NIL nonsense is. If $$$ is driving the car, ole bud ain't coming down to starkville. Might as well go on and accept it.
I still can’t understand how Selmon and Lenny convinced all these big donors to give money to this dumpster fire.
That LT had elite PFF grades under Loadholt as a true freshman and Loadholt is a major reason he is considering us. His pff actually dropped this year with a new OL coach.
I agree the business model sucks. But I have boys that'll be Srs next year & I'm gonna do what I can to help make their experience be the best it can be.
Just curious, did you work at state under Cohen.. or is that you?
We all know we all have to give or the thing we love and spend so much time following, such as on this board, is going to be where it has been.
I get the ole poor state thing that part administrations went with so they could keep their job but this is why Selmon was brought here. We are a major school with a large alumnus base. Many wealthy alumni and very prominent ones no matter what you've been brainwashed to think. Why do you get on this board and not donate is my question. I understand if things are tight but if you can afford Netflix then you can donate $20 a month to our nil and watch a better team on TV. I've been embarrassed to wear my state stuff the past couple years. Not as much this year as the one prior but I'm ready to get out of this hole and am thankful Selmon is doing good job. I'm so glad that we got someone who didn't listen to you all and has started tapping into our potential. It just sucks we were in such a hole when he was brought on.
well if that's the case we're really screwed, bc my kids are a handful of years back, so.............might need to save up for the future now that I'm thinking of things that way
I think this era will create more than a few sidneys. Man, renardo would have THRIVED in this land of college ball. He would have left after his 7th year after finding his way to Dixie State in Southern Utah.
Show we can punch above the belt, show you can win 6 with the money you got. The money you got is good enough if the coaching was better
My first sentence covers this clearly. If you can’t give I get it.
Again, I know people who make significantly more money than me who don’t give $h1t.
He11 I get biched at on this board often for selling scoreboard club tickets for less than they cost me.
Some people have their priorities in the right place. Sounds like most. If giving millions of dollars a year to barely literate teenagers appeals to you…rock on! Meanwhile, there are people in the world with real problems and transparent charities that support them.
But if Kevin Fant needs some tires, I think we still owe him a set.
This makes zero sense. Why are you even on a state message board
It's a sickness. A lot of us were given said sickness at birth. We can't leave, it's burned into our DNA.
Donor identities don’t have to be disclosed.
But I 100% believe that every penny paid to every player everywhere should be publicly available information. For all intents and purposes, and with very few exceptions, these are state and federal taxpayer funded institutions that are either directly paying or coordinating the payment of billions of dollars annually to these public representatives of their interests…..for that expressed purpose (pay for play). Yet, there is this cloak of secrecy around what they are making. I don’t blame a soul who doesn’t give when they don’t know that info. In other professional sports, I can look up the contract of any individual player…..and those are all completely private enterprises that aren’t even publicly traded companies.
That’s why I have zero sympathy for OM’s NIL “leak”…..that info should already be out there for everybody….including MSU. I commend whoever did it.
Last edited:
2/3 of this board hasn't even attended a State athletics event
17 you and your don't complain ********. My son is a junior at State. The university gets my money already. I buy tickets to games, dine on the campus, buy concessions, buy apparel and accessories on campus and so forth. So 1777777777 you.
So you contribute? Good for you. I guess you can’t read though.
Yea the "donate or shut up" crowd can definitely go 17 themselves.
That said, I feel the same way about the crowd that gets on here and thumps their chest about how they will never donate and pretty much discourages everyone else from donating.
It's your money. You don't have to justify what you do with it to a damn soul. But shut the 17 up about it. When someone starts a thread encouraging our fans to donate to NIL and people respond with all the reasons that it's stupid and hopeless to donate, that is actively working against the program's ability to compete in the current system.
It should be realistic for us to get 10,000 fans to donate $20 a month to our collective....that's $2.4 million a year and that makes a difference. But every time one of these threads gets posted it makes that goal seem like a total pipe dream for our fan base.
I prefer a quasi-Patreon approach where each donation has a focus and level where there is some sort of accountability addressed (e.g., what would this donation do?) but I don’t trust anything that doesn’t at least have a semi-public business plan…
Heck, EVEN Bulldawg Junction was more open & trustworthy at first glance…