He comes in and plays with more energy than any one on the floor, crashing the boards and making a couple of nice shots. And thanks to Stains's by the book substitutions, he's rewarded with pine. Until that putback from Osby, he's looked completely lost on the floor. So, you can't keep a hot player on the floor because it would disrupt your wonderfully effective (HA) substitution pattern? Ridiculous.
Don't blame Kodi one bit...
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He comes in and plays with more energy than any one on the floor, crashing the boards and making a couple of nice shots. And thanks to Stains's by the book substitutions, he's rewarded with pine. Until that putback from Osby, he's looked completely lost on the floor. So, you can't keep a hot player on the floor because it would disrupt your wonderfully effective (HA) substitution pattern? Ridiculous.
half of this game doesn't piss some fans off then no one should complain about Stans. The kid has shown glimpses of what he can be if he is given the opportunity, and not worried about making a mistake. I know it's Florida, but he has a big guarding him and he has made shots in the post. It's a start, but it should have been before tonight.
His problem is he doesn't want to play defense. even his own AAU coach said that. I don't blame Stansbury one bit for not playing a guy that doesn't want to even attempt to play both sides of the courtThick said:
Thick said:
I don't get this love fest with Osby??? He has in NO way shown he is ready to be an SEC starter. I think it's just an excuse for people who like to ***** about Stansbury.
Of course he hasn't. I told you guys before the season even started that he wouldn't be ready to make a contribution in his true FR season. He was raw, raw, raw coming out of HS. But he's got a lot of talent and was a damn good signee. He'll be much improved next year and be a damn good 3-year starter for us. Varnado didn't look like much in his FR season either.
osby needs to toughen up and get more physical....watching kodi tonight, i thought he played good defense, even got a steal.alabamadog said:
Really? cuz what i saw was servicable D from Kodi. it wasnt awesome, but it also wasnt a liability. he rebounded on the defensive end(thats whats needed from a post player on D). he forced Werner into some tough bad midrange shots(thats whats needed from a post player on D). he stole a ball at the top of the key, drove it down the court with 2 FL defenders all over him, and almost finished the dunk after being fouled(thats whats needed from everyone on D).hatfieldms said:
how is that not all solid D?
now i did see 2 times in the first half where he hedged off his man to help cover another guy and his man scored off open shots. that wasnt good to see.
overall, he was clearly a major asset on offense and he was more than servicable on D.
BUT that was the first time since November that he has come in and played any defense whatsover and did not turn it over. If he will keep that up then he adds alot to the team. Just as it has always been with Kodi, it is up to him. He will get the PT when he earns it. Last night he earned it and played great.
I have a feeling that Stansbury told them that nobody's spot is safe after the Auburn game because our guys really played like their butts were on fire last night. Good to see.
I have a feeling that Stansbury told them that nobody's spot is safe after the Auburn game because our guys really played like their butts were on fire last night. Good to see.
It's funny how that works isn't it? He actually plays D and he gets playing time.mstateglfr said:
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Or maybe his D hasnt been as horrible as many have painted it? just maybe? maybe, just maybe, his rebounding hasnt been as horrible as many have painted it?
his rebounding was a reason for lack of PT, until it was pointed out that on a per minute basis, he was second on the team in rebounds. so then his defense became the popular reason for lack of PT...even though Ravern is easily just as bad, and at times worse, since he actually runs away from contact and getting on the floor for a losse ball(he did that again last night). so since lack of D couldnt be it, seeing as how others on the team also arent great(Brian Johnson being another) yet they played, Kodi's attitude became the default popular reason for him not playing.
and honestly, id bet that most all of us wouldnt have the best attitude if we were in his shoes and saw others get PT who are just as bad at D and rebound even less.
maybe his D hasnt been so horrible all along? maybe its been spotty, but not what kept him from playing? no...that couldnt be it. cuz if that were it, then the obvious reason for his lack of PT would be that Stans and Co got comfortable in the 4G lineup and just didnt want to change until it was way past necessary.
Stansbury isn't stupid. If Kodi had been practicing and playing the way he is capable of then he would have been starting all season. Why is that so hard to comprehend? There is no nefarious conspiracy to keep Kodi on the bench. The players that earn it get the PT. If you reward one guy for slacking in practice then suddenly the other guys start questioning why they should be busting their butts in practice.
he really gets after it when he's in there and if he played longer could've give us a little Branden Vincent to an extent.
I think he is a little unsure of his role on offense. Early in the year he was quick to look for a shot, but after missing a few he seems timid. His confidence and his game, like most players, will come with increased p.t.
I think he is a little unsure of his role on offense. Early in the year he was quick to look for a shot, but after missing a few he seems timid. His confidence and his game, like most players, will come with increased p.t.
He gets dinged for playing Osby (allowing him to get experience) and he gets dinged for not playing Kodi (not allowing him to get experience).
Aaah, the life of a coach in the SEC. But, I don't feel too badly for Stans; he is beign handsomely compensated for dealing with such things.
If Kodi, or any player, doesn't play defense, he is a liability on the floor. Not playing defense leads to many more problems than just your man scoring a lot of points. Other players have to take up your slack, switching on screens are messed up, rotation defenses are affected, rebounding is affected, passing lanes open up, and even fast breaks to the other end can be screwed up as a result of one guy playing poor defense.
Aaah, the life of a coach in the SEC. But, I don't feel too badly for Stans; he is beign handsomely compensated for dealing with such things.
If Kodi, or any player, doesn't play defense, he is a liability on the floor. Not playing defense leads to many more problems than just your man scoring a lot of points. Other players have to take up your slack, switching on screens are messed up, rotation defenses are affected, rebounding is affected, passing lanes open up, and even fast breaks to the other end can be screwed up as a result of one guy playing poor defense.
are hard to find. That dude was a monster. People paid the price when they challenged him in the lane and he was such a disrupter at the top of that 1-3-1.
Osby might turn out to a a much better scorer, I'm sure he will. But he'll never be the defensive force that Vincent was.</p>
Osby might turn out to a a much better scorer, I'm sure he will. But he'll never be the defensive force that Vincent was.</p>
Coaches see players every day in practice, so I have faith they want to win more than any of us. Coach has been screaming to play Osby more all year, and in case you folks haven't noticed, he is the ultimate authority on coaching, so Stans played him more. Augustus played well last night, and I suspect he was told to play hard or be gone. I hope he plays that way from now on because he could be a good one, but anybody who thinks that our coaches aren't playing the kids who practice and play hard, just have a hard on for Stans. And by the way, that is the best Bailey had played in a while too and it is a shame he got hurt.
Im reaching? buddy, im not the one that has listed off tons of reasons why Augustus doesnt see the court, even though each reason was easily refuted with stats or examples of others on the team who play while being guilty of the very thing(s) Augustus was accused of.
Im not one of the posters that comes up with all the theories.
You are correct, Stans isnt stupid. But he sure comess off as heardheaded/stubborn at times.
Im not one of the posters that comes up with all the theories.
You are correct, Stans isnt stupid. But he sure comess off as heardheaded/stubborn at times.
He can go with the 8 man rotation now, maybe even let Kodi start again. What a novel idea...
Sucks for Elgin, that ankle looked bad....... I hope he make sit back healthy and doesn't gain too much weight while his is out...
Sucks for Elgin, that ankle looked bad....... I hope he make sit back healthy and doesn't gain too much weight while his is out...
I think that what he states is mighty close to what has transpired.
What you say is also true. We don't see Kodi slacking off in practice or dicking around either. However, there has to be a balance though between the coach noticing that when Randy and Ravern go cold from 3, it would be wise to put in another scoring option like Kodi. That is what I have been screaming for all year, him specifically over Osby and Johnson. It is up to Rick to inspire, discipline whatever....have the players ready to play. Maybe Kodi is a total jackass and deserves to sit? But to see him come in last night and contribute in ways that we could have used all year long kills me. Recall his solid minutes in the first half of the Olemiss game. That wasn't so long ago, but he never made it back in the game in the second half and we lost because of our crappy outside shooting (and our inability to stop #24). Kodi would have been a nice option, but there he sat on the bench? These are the reasons I question Rick. If he is a dickoff, don't play him.....but to halfassed play him like in the Olemiss game makes me shake my head, especially when we have lost several close games.
What you say is also true. We don't see Kodi slacking off in practice or dicking around either. However, there has to be a balance though between the coach noticing that when Randy and Ravern go cold from 3, it would be wise to put in another scoring option like Kodi. That is what I have been screaming for all year, him specifically over Osby and Johnson. It is up to Rick to inspire, discipline whatever....have the players ready to play. Maybe Kodi is a total jackass and deserves to sit? But to see him come in last night and contribute in ways that we could have used all year long kills me. Recall his solid minutes in the first half of the Olemiss game. That wasn't so long ago, but he never made it back in the game in the second half and we lost because of our crappy outside shooting (and our inability to stop #24). Kodi would have been a nice option, but there he sat on the bench? These are the reasons I question Rick. If he is a dickoff, don't play him.....but to halfassed play him like in the Olemiss game makes me shake my head, especially when we have lost several close games.
I think you are dead on, until we hit the losing slide Stans saw no need to change a thing. I just think he waited too long to make the change.
One of Stans major faults is that he waits too long to make changes, be it line-ups or in game time-outs to stop the momentum of another team.