Don't look now but AU appears to have inside track on Toby Johnson. ***

[Shmuley]

nm

 

[mjh94]

care to elaborate?

nm

 

[goindhoo]

we have been out bid**

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[engie]

??

Alot of talk from their "insiders" that they've basically stopped recruiting him over grade concerns just like UGA did, which (almost always) plays well for MS teams: http://www.aufamily.com/forums/topic/129624-dt-toby-johnson/page__st__162

Paul Jones seems to think we're sitting in a very good spot as well: http://mississippistate.247sports.com/Board/59413/2013-prospect-Toby-Johnson-update-16704242

 

[Railin Jemmye]

Not much on him on the Auburn Rivals board, except for the typical 'we can have him at any time MSU is no threat' stuff. And they may or may not be right. I think the thing we have going for us is the grades required for transfer. Same reason Ole Miss got Hooks.

 

[aTotal360]

His family lives in Mo'head. They want him closer to home.

 

[PBRME]

I thought Auburn filled his spot because they didn't want a juco that couldn't contribute immediately. With his injury that is in question.

 

[RocketDawg]

Is MSU less stringent on grades than Auburn?

 

[Railin Jemmye]

They say so. But that might be them being butt-hurt over losing to us, or losing Hooks to Ole Miss. I truly have no idea.

 

[Coach34]

Is MSU less stringent on grades than Auburn?

this would be a yes

 

[patdog]

Thanks to the Ayers Settlement, it's much easier to get admitted into MSU (and UM) than pretty much any other school in the conference. Auburn's entrance requirements are a good bit tougher than MSU's are.

 

[engie]

Thanks to the Ayers Settlement, it's much easier to get admitted into MSU (and UM) than pretty much any other school in the conference. Auburn's entrance requirements are a good bit tougher than MSU's are.

This exactly.

MSU/OM are probably the two easiest schools to get into among all of the 65 "new BCS-level" teams...

 

[RocketDawg]

And to me, that's very embarrassing for me as a graduate and the University as a whole.

 

[engie]

And to me, that's very embarrassing for me as a graduate and the University as a whole.

This is why the university ranks so lowly on all the different university "scales" -- because that settlement forces us to let in students that have no business there. Then, they immediately drop out, thus providing a double-edged sword in these rankings, with "low entrance standards" and "low retention rates."

Without going into great detail, this is likely in the process of changing... Although, I'm sure we will find a way to keep the athletics standards low. And rightly so. Athletes have SO many academic advantages and help available to them compared to normal students. They actually have to try really hard to fail out of MSU...

 

[Koldfire]

And to me, that's very embarrassing for me as a graduate and the University as a whole.

Yes let get those requirements up and eliminate half of the football players/recruits. Easy to have double standards to accommodate the minstrels.

 

[esplanade91]

Until Mississippi can come up to terms with the rest of the country in K-12, there is no need/way they bump up academic requirements.

Half the girls I went to high school with couldn't get more than 19's on their ACT's and ended up making up half the KD pledge class at Ole Miss that year.

If you want to come to MSU, make good grades, and pick a degree that has a great job outlook, the world is your oyster the same as if you went to Harvard. If you want to come here and dick around and get a Southern Studies degree... Good for you. If you want to be successful it doesn't matter if you went to MSU, Auburn, or MVSU.

We're one of the top research institutions in the country. Period. Has nothing to do with my degree... But my point is is who cares if MSU lets these kids in?

 

[rabiddawg]

No. Considering that the cutoff for a C in Alabama is lower than it is in MS it's not that we are less stringent. Probably some courses won't transfer

 

[engie]

Until Mississippi can come up to terms with the rest of the country in K-12, there is no need/way they bump up academic requirements.

You couldn't be more wrong than you are in this post.

So, ultimately you are in favor of letting people into MSU who aren't mentally equipped to be there -- and never make it through the first year?

We need the academic requirements to match the actual workload of the classes so we don't have one of the highest dropout rates in the nation. Nothing more or less...

We are a DECENT research institution because of the work done by kids that belong in school in years 3 forward. That doesn't prevent us from being(along with OM), the WORST rated institutions in the SEC by most college rating metrics -- which are largely composed by entrance standards and dropout rates...

USnews SEC Rankings:
17 - Vanderbilt
54 - Florida
63 - Georgia
65 - Texas A&M
77 - Alabama
89 - Auburn
97 - Missouri
101 - Tennessee
115 - South Carolina
125 - Kentucky
134 - LSU
135 - Arkansas
151 - Ole Miss
160 - MSU

Research Money(as of 2009). Notable aTm will be one of the highest in the country now with the new billion dollar CDC deal they inked:
21 - Vanderbilt
28 - Alabama
35 - Texas A&M
42 - Florida
59 - Kentucky
69 - Missouri
75 - South Carolina
77 - Georgia
79 - MSU
87 - Tennessee
91 - LSU
121 - Auburn
135 - Ole Miss
141 - Arkansas

Again -- I'm ALL FOR keeping the standards as low as possible for athletes -- because they DON'T dropout at the normal rate -- presumably due to the amount of help available to them/forced upon them.