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Nugdawg

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get so defensive publicly as Freeze has gotten. He spent his entire interview during the basketball game tonight ranting about how his "staff knows nothing" and how others may do things he has no knowledge of but if they have and you know about it, then report it. He went on and on about their "natural in's" with Kimdeche and the other guy whose name is failiing me now. The brother being there and the other in of signing a best friend last year etc. This is all ********.

It's just funny...to me, a guy with a guilty conscious that is trying to look clean in his eyes, starts yelling stuff like this. Otherwise, he would just blow it off and move on as if "nothing to see here." He also has not been able to control himself on twitter the last few days lowering himself into the altercations with Joe Average.

Just has a really big smell of guilt to me.
 
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BriantheDawg

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Funny. I've seen this topic was brought up by Paul as well

On 247. If it walks like a beaver and eats wood like a beaver...
 
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CadaverDawg

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You think that was bad? Find his interview on the Dan Patrick show from today. He was on the defensive big time...even tried to cut in at the end to throw more justification in. Patrick said something to the effect of..."Coach, you guys may have a beautiful campus and great tailgating, but wins have to come into play too and that's what you guys have to get more of." -or something like that.

ETA: Here's a link to it : http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UpLkwSbTUag
 
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AlSwearengen

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This is another example of their orchestrated efforts. Their fans have been trumpeting "natural ins" for awhile now. They come up with a narrative and everyone runs with it.
 
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drt7891

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It sounds like a guilty sly Crxxms... I don't know how many times he uses the phrase "we did it the right way," "natural tie-ins," and "integrity." That whole interview sounds like one big excuse.
 
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KurtRambis4

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But Oxford

is so nice!!1 Who wouldn't want to go there? It's amazing they don't have top 5 classes every year on that alone.


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AlSwearengen said:
This is another example of their orchestrated efforts. Their fans have been trumpeting "natural ins" for awhile now. They come up with a narrative and everyone runs with it.
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I have a long time bear buddy who has bought in to the natural tie in theme. Or at least that is what he says with a little wry smile. He has always said the big boys cheat but says OM didn't with this class. Funny as hell to me.
 
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DerHntr

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the funny thing is none of the reporters have asked after his explanation....

so are you saying that "natural tie ins" means you just aren't really that good of a recruiter and got lucky this year?
 
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fishwater99

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There is no tie in with Tunsil. No doubt his mom was looking for money.
UGA is not the least happy about the Bears stealing him from them either..
 
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Railin Jemmye

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Again, they were fine until they bribed Tunsil. That one's going to bury them. They could have even gotten away with Chris Jones and all they **** they tried to bribe him with. But they just couldn't quit.
 
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"I did not have sexual relations with that woman" by..........................Slick Bucky
 
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Crazy Cotton

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Why this isn't going away for a while.

They've had a beautiful campus and great tailgating for years haven't they? There's your constants that will effect recruiting, along with 2nd to 3rd tier SEC membership, etc. None of that changed this year did it? So what did change? Anyone with a stats or science background is going to approach the analysis of the class from that perspective - given their draft history, and in the absence of any change to factors that can drastically move recruiting success (e.g. national rankings, championships, well known Saben style coaching hire) what is the statistical probability of a team going from an average draft ranking in the low 20's high 30's to a top 5? I'd bet my house it is somewhere around .00000001. So we have an obvious, statistically improbable event occur, and people naturally want to discover a reasonable explanation. I have no idea how they did it, maybe this year everything really did just come together for them, but Ole Miss needs to understand that people are going to want to understand what happened, and, historically, the way teams have done that in the past is to make players an offer they couldn't refuse (see SMU), so that is going to be the first place people will look. If they didn't cheat, well, it's going to suck for them to have to deal with it, but for them to somehow think people shouldn't ask the question, or don't have the right to wonder what happened, is ignoring human nature. Imagine some poor soul gets struck by lightning once (1 five star). People think, wow, that was kind of crazy, but it happens. Now the same guy gets struck again (2 5 stars). People think damn, what's with that guy? Now let the poor sap get struck again, and tell me isn't going to have meteorologists, physiologists, theologians, and every reporter in the country trying to figure out what the hell is going on. That's where Ole Miss is right now, whether they've done anything wrong or not.
 
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CadaverDawg

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Crazy Cotton said:
They've had a beautiful campus and great tailgating for years haven't they? There's your constants that will effect recruiting, along with 2nd to 3rd tier SEC membership, etc. None of that changed this year did it? So what did change? Anyone with a stats or science background is going to approach the analysis of the class from that perspective - given their draft history, and in the absence of any change to factors that can drastically move recruiting success (e.g. national rankings, championships, well known Saben style coaching hire) what is the statistical probability of a team going from an average draft ranking in the low 20's high 30's to a top 5? I'd bet my house it is somewhere around .00000001. So we have an obvious, statistically improbable event occur, and people naturally want to discover a reasonable explanation. I have no idea how they did it, maybe this year everything really did just come together for them, but Ole Miss needs to understand that people are going to want to understand what happened, and, historically, the way teams have done that in the past is to make players an offer they couldn't refuse (see SMU), so that is going to be the first place people will look. If they didn't cheat, well, it's going to suck for them to have to deal with it, but for them to somehow think people shouldn't ask the question, or don't have the right to wonder what happened, is ignoring human nature. Imagine some poor soul gets struck by lightning once (1 five star). People think, wow, that was kind of crazy, but it happens. Now the same guy gets struck again (2 5 stars). People think damn, what's with that guy? Now let the poor sap get struck again, and tell me isn't going to have meteorologists, physiologists, theologians, and every reporter in the country trying to figure out what the hell is going on. That's where Ole Miss is right now, whether they've done anything wrong or not.
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Good points.
 
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jwbigcreek

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Exactly. Where do the Rebs go to get their talking points? Because they've always had them down pat (for years). They're the most "in-the-know" m17ers I've ever seen. Must be that super secret Reb message board I always hear about.
 
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Original48

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If anything gets them in trouble it will be this^

fishwater99 said:
There is no tie in with Tunsil. No doubt his mom was looking for money.
UGA is not the least happy about the Bears stealing him from them either..
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I believe Richt knows about the cash (proving it is another thing) and its fairly common knowledge that his family was 'blindsided' by Super Bowl tickets.
 
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cowbell88

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We have heard coach speak on the defensive before at that University. Remember " pine box and bury me in grove". How'd that work out?
 
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slickdawg

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Lance Armstrong categorically denied it for years. It eventually caught up with him anyway.
 
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The Bears are like Democrats when it comes to their talking points. They all get the memo and regurgitate the same thing over and over and over and over. This year, the memo is "natural tie-ins." They're also reverting back to the Bear playbook page that says "emphasize campus looks and The Grooooooove." It's really pretty predictable. Honestly, I wish our fanbase would get that organized.
 
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HammerOfTheDogs

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Hans Schultz- new Assistant at the university of ole miss
 
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