Double Standards

[inWV]

Agree in theory, but his first QB recruit is a 5th year junior. Lee should be playing better than he is.

I see the situation with Lee as one where you just don't know how a kid will respond until the bullets flying are real. And I really though Lee would be benched after the pick 6 on Saturday. Are the other two not ready? Is it that the coaches know Lee is capable of better play? It would seem that Riley and Langs adjusted the play calling to get the points they needed, shorten that game and get the hell off of the field.
Maybe Lee will have the light go on and play better. Maybe our line will play better. It seems having them just get after it in the run game with with less reliance on Lee's arm is the way to go.

 

[schuele]

I think the double standard is more about Guy Who's Already Here vs. Guy Who Isn't Here Yet. If Frost got the NU job and started his 3rd year 1-2 with a loss to Northern Illinois, I'm guessing he would hear the coaching version of the "We want Frankie London!" chant.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

1) we are not committed to running the ball - either because of Oline concerns and/or coaching philosophy
2) we are not in a position to have to rely on the defense due to scheme change (this is improving) - we went into the season believing we had to rely on the offense while the defense grows

when 1 and 2 are present you better be darn sure you have quality QB play or you are sunk

 

[Harry Caray]

Maybe we shouldn't provide on-the-job training to unproven head coaches then. Marquee programs that are pining for the limelight shouldn't make that gamble.

We also cannot ignore the undertaking that Riley encountered. It was both a roster related undertaking as well as cultural. No other coach in Nebraska history had to do so much in so little in these regards.

If Riley gets canned, he can be rest assured that he left the program in a much better place then when he found it. Hopefully his work will aid Nebraska's future success once he's gone.

Half of the teams currently ranked in the Top 10 are led by coaches who had no prior head-coaching experience before their current position. Sometimes it's about seeing the potential in a coach whose career is trending upward before someone else hires them. Riley's career had been trending downward for a while at Oregon State. No other major program would have even considered him in 2014, let alone actually hire him.

 

[coachDubs]

Half of the teams currently ranked in the Top 10 are led by coaches who had no prior head-coaching experience before their current position.

Meh, that wasn't the case 48 hours ago.

 

[oldjar07]

I keep hearing about how Frost needs to be the next head coach at Nebraska and that if that happens he should get 5 years guaranteed, even if he has Mike Riley results for the first 3 or 4 seasons. What gives?

All these who talk big about good coaches winning right away(and if they don't, they should get fired) suddenly abandon their position when they bring up Scott.

The only thing I can think of is that it is because Frost is a home ground kid and we give those kinds of coaches special treatment. If you aren't from Nebraska or have ties, you are given a short leash and the honeymoon basically never exists. Better yet, you are labeled an experiment and are treated as doomed to fail.

All this Frost talk has brought out the hypocrisy at its finest.

Yes realistically Frost will get more time even if he has similar results. You're going to give more time to one of your own than an outsider, it's human nature. And yes Riley was an outsider when he was first hired. But even with the results Riley's had so far, some people want to give him more time. So why is it all of a sudden a bad thing to these same people if Frost gets more time if he gets hired?

The other problem is these same posters assume Frost is going to have the same mediocre results Riley has had. I wouldn't want Frost if I didn't think he could do better. But with what Frost has shown so far in his career, I think he has much more upside than Riley.

 

[Toms Wife]

Yes it is. But Bounds and Green seem to have initiated a process that will end with Riley being shown the door. It is unlikely he will see his first full class get four years, as his first QB recruit in only a RS freshman.

Why the double standards with assistants? Riley has fired multiple assistants after just one or two years. Why don't they get four years to see their position group turned around?

 

[oldjar07]

jawbreaking-whatever his name was is the only poster that made the monkey comment. Nobody else so quit the ********. He's also the same poster that claims he wants the President assassinated. Mr (fake) Preacher, you're as big of a loser as he is.

OP is right, there is a double standard.

You're right that he went a little extreme with that comment. But there's been more than 1 poster who has said a bad or an average coach could win 9 games every year at Nebraska, and it's just not true.

 

[SnohomishRed]

In my opinion there are three things that need to happen to earn Mike Riley another year

1. Must have a winning season
2. The defense must show dramatic improvement from past years in conference play
3. If those two things happen Riley must agree to change some offensive staff. Specifically Langsdorf

 

[Huskercigar]

I think the lack of patience with Riley comes from the fact that he's been a head coach for 20 years and never won anything. This isn't a young first-time head coach who is still learning the ropes. He also probably doesn't have many years left regardless because of his age, so even if he does turn things around in the next couple of years, he will likely be retiring soon and then we have to start over with a new staff anyway. Which is why it was such a confusing hire in the first place.

If we have a losing season this year, he's gone. You cannot have 2 losing seasons in 3 years at a program like Nebraska. I can't think of any coaches who had 2 losing seasons in their first 3 years at a major program, and later went on to win championships.

Bingo......I was waiting to see if anyone else said it before I was going to do it. The OP is right......there is a double standard whether right or wrong but its not about being a home grown kid.....its about what we are willing to invest in an up and comer compared to the old established guy. We simply can't put 7-10 years into him like we did Tom Osborne. Or 20 for that matter.

Mike Riley came under the pretense that he was an established coach with all the connections and experience to take the keys of the Ferrari and immediately be competitive. Scott Frost doesn't have that experience and I think that is the part that makes this the double standard whether right or wrong.

 

[Huskercigar]

Why the double standards with assistants? Riley has fired multiple assistants after just one or two years. Why don't they get four years to see their position group turned around?

This is an excellent point. Anyone want to offer a reason?

 

[oldjar07]

Here is the problem with this fan base in general. I have probably said this before but it needs repeating, because I would bet many people share this same thought process.

Because a guy supports Riley, that doesn't mean he is a believer in Riley or that he will get the job done. I will just use myself as an example. I was so ready for Bo to go and very vocal, (on another board) in my disgust of that man. Because of the lack of interest for the previous hires, I probably knew we weren't going to get the home run hire everyone wanted. But since I was so vocal for him to go, I figured I had to take what I get. Soon after the hire, it became obvious a lot of people had a similar opinion with the hire. I found my self defending Riley even though I didn't really support or agree with the hire. I had simply grown tired of bitching full time. So I decided to look for any positives and looking for ways that it could work rather than just complaining for the next 3-5 years about a decision that I had absolutely no control over. Unfortunately, that put me in a position to, at times, to argue a position contrary to my true opinions. It is what it is. But Nebraska football had become something that simply wasn't fun for me when Pelini was here, so, as I said, I took a fresh approach with the current staff, in an attempt to make the game enjoyable again. As a guy who loves X's and O's, it also gave me something new to research and learn more in depth.

Additionally, it's also fun to be a contrarian sometimes.

I will say that I don't owe anyone an apology or need to bow at their feet because they had an opinion about a football coach. Sorry, get over yourself.

You don't have to pretend for something you didn't agree with. I didn't agree with the Riley hire, but I gave him a chance and supported him while he was here. I didn't complain about everything he's done constantly. I think Riley's done some good things. I don't particularly care for media relations either way, but I like some of the things he's done with recruiting. I think he's improved game management from where it was the first year. He's made some good decisions on the coaching staff. He's done good things, just not good enough for Nebraska, and there are very few coaches who do measure up to the expectations we should have for the program.

 

[oldjar07]

Unfortunately, for many, it's Frost or bust. Unless the new AD hires Frost, there is going to be a segment of the fan base that will continue to be unhappy.

If Frost ends up being the guy, and doesn't win, there will be a double standard. The things that were excuses for Riley will now be legit reasons for others. I am not saying it's right or wrong, its just life, but don't pretend that there won't be a double standard.

Why are you so sure that Frost wouldn't win here?

 

[chipotlehusker]

I keep hearing about how Frost needs to be the next head coach at Nebraska and that if that happens he should get 5 years guaranteed, even if he has Mike Riley results for the first 3 or 4 seasons. What gives?

All these who talk big about good coaches winning right away(and if they don't, they should get fired) suddenly abandon their position when they bring up Scott.

The only thing I can think of is that it is because Frost is a home ground kid and we give those kinds of coaches special treatment. If you aren't from Nebraska or have ties, you are given a short leash and the honeymoon basically never exists. Better yet, you are labeled an experiment and are treated as doomed to fail.

All this Frost talk has brought out the hypocrisy at its finest.

deranged thinking...where did you come up with that?

 

[timnsun]

You don't have to pretend for something you didn't agree with. I didn't agree with the Riley hire, but I gave him a chance and supported him while he was here. I didn't complain about everything he's done constantly. I think Riley's done some good things. I don't particularly care for media relations either way, but I like some of the things he's done with recruiting. I think he's improved game management from where it was the first year. He's made some good decisions on the coaching staff. He's done good things, just not good enough for Nebraska, and there are very few coaches who do measure up to the expectations we should have for the program.[/QUOTE]
This is well said. I appreciate hearing what you believe Riley has done well.

Of late, I have tried to be more objective from a coaching perspective, and it is clear the coaching, especially on the offensive side of the ball, has been mediocre to bad. Before this year I kept calling for patience. I am at the point where if we made a change the only thing I would worry about is losing out on some top flight recruits.

For 2 years I defended everything Riley. I still want him to be successful, because if we can turn it around now, I do believe we are seeing a corner turned in recruiting. I could be wrong as things could fall apart in recruiting, but I have always liked the effort Riley has brought to recruiting.

But if he lays an egg the rest of the season, bring on the next guy.

 

[oldjar07]

Maybe we shouldn't provide on-the-job training to unproven head coaches then. Marquee programs that are pining for the limelight shouldn't make that gamble.

We also cannot ignore the undertaking that Riley encountered. It was both a roster related undertaking as well as cultural. No other coach in Nebraska history had to do so much in so little in these regards.

If Riley gets canned, he can be rest assured that he left the program in a much better place then when he found it. Hopefully his work will aid Nebraska's future success once he's gone.

It was no different than any other coaching change. Hire a winning coach and players will respect you and culture will take care of itself.

 

[HuskerDana_rivals188993]

I keep hearing about how Frost needs to be the next head coach at Nebraska and that if that happens he should get 5 years guaranteed, even if he has Mike Riley results for the first 3 or 4 seasons. What gives?

All these who talk big about good coaches winning right away(and if they don't, they should get fired) suddenly abandon their position when they bring up Scott.

The only thing I can think of is that it is because Frost is a home ground kid and we give those kinds of coaches special treatment. If you aren't from Nebraska or have ties, you are given a short leash and the honeymoon basically never exists. Better yet, you are labeled an experiment and are treated as doomed to fail.

All this Frost talk has brought out the hypocrisy at its finest.

No. I do think Frost should get 5 years as long as we are seeing improvement along the way. That means not going down to a last possesion against Ark St, losing to NIU, getting boat-raced in the first half against Oregon, and having to scrach out a win against Rutgers in year three.

I still hope MR can get it turned around, but if we look below average the rest of the season, it's time for a change. I might think differently if MR was 50 instead of 64.....we brought him in here to have a trajectory up, not a complete rebuild that looks worse in year three than it did prior to his tenure.

There is an excuse for where the roster is at because of Bo. But there is no excuse for some of the head-scratching coaching decisions we have seen over the last three years, still some of the same embarrassing blowouts we saw under PeePeelini, and the start of this season. Period.

Time to get their s*it together or move on. MR is not getting any younger. I am not in the camp that is willing to give MR until he is past retirement age to show results.

AND...SF is worth the risk. If he gets it going, we have our revolving door of coaches solved long-term. I will be willing to take that risk with a young coach that happens to be one of our own, rather than taking a risk that Riley can get it turned around at age 65 or 66. Especially if we suffer another embarrassing end to this season.

 

[SnohomishRed]

You don't have to pretend for something you didn't agree with. I didn't agree with the Riley hire, but I gave him a chance and supported him while he was here. I didn't complain about everything he's done constantly. I think Riley's done some good things. I don't particularly care for media relations either way, but I like some of the things he's done with recruiting. I think he's improved game management from where it was the first year. He's made some good decisions on the coaching staff. He's done good things, just not good enough for Nebraska, and there are very few coaches who do measure up to the expectations we should have for the program.

This is well said. I appreciate hearing what you believe Riley has done well.

Of late, I have tried to be more objective from a coaching perspective, and it is clear the coaching, especially on the offensive side of the ball, has been mediocre to bad. Before this year I kept calling for patience. I am at the point where if we made a change the only thing I would worry about is losing out on some top flight recruits.

For 2 years I defended everything Riley. I still want him to be successful, because if we can turn it around now, I do believe we are seeing a corner turned in recruiting. I could be wrong as things could fall apart in recruiting, but I have always liked the effort Riley has brought to recruiting.

But if he lays an egg the rest of the season, bring on the next guy.[/QUOTE]
Timsun you are a good poster, how you are looking at things right now is how I looked at the Callahan hire. There are many similarities imo, passing offense, good recruiting, however overall bad play. If it wasn't the defense with his teams it was the offense that faltered. The whole thing just did not click and that seems to be the Riley problem. One thing really I did not expect was his offense to struggle so bad, defense underq Banker was always the thing holding back his teams. There is still a chance it works , if the defense continues to get better and the offense can be more physical. I think Riley could make it through the year.

 

[bshirt73]

Not all but I think more than half would be okay with keeping Riley around another year if we get to 7 wins. Even six at this point if the recruiting train keeps rolling. Miss a bowl game though and it would be hard to justify giving him another year.

Jeeesh...that's sad. 6 or 7 wins is just fine......God help us.

 

[bshirt73]

I think the lack of patience with Riley comes from the fact that he's been a head coach for 20 years and never won anything. This isn't a young first-time head coach who is still learning the ropes. He also probably doesn't have many years left regardless because of his age, so even if he does turn things around in the next couple of years, he will likely be retiring soon and then we have to start over with a new staff anyway. Which is why it was such a confusing hire in the first place.

If we have a losing season this year, he's gone. You cannot have 2 losing seasons in 3 years at a program like Nebraska. I can't think of any coaches who had 2 losing seasons in their first 3 years at a major program, and later went on to win championships.

Good post that's 100% on the money.

Two losing seasons in three years is even worse than Clownahan. It seems everyone here hates Bo and think he's the worst HC ever. For 6 years here he won 9 or 10 games every year. Not good enough I agree! But wayyyyyyy, way better than MR to say the very least.

MR better turn this around fast. Excuses are only that.......nothing more. Results are a requirement.

 

[bshirt73]

No. I do think Frost should get 5 years as long as we are seeing improvement along the way. That means not going down to a last possesion against Ark St, losing to NIU, getting boat-raced in the first half against Oregon, and having to scrach out a win against Rutgers in year three.

I still hope MR can get it turned around, but if we look below average the rest of the season, it's time for a change. I might think differently if MR was 50 instead of 64.....we brought him in here to have a trajectory up, not a complete rebuild that looks worse in year three than it did prior to his tenure.

There is an excuse for where the roster is at because of Bo. But there is no excuse for some of the head-scratching coaching decisions we have seen over the last three years, still some of the same embarrassing blowouts we saw under PeePeelini, and the start of this season. Period.

Time to get their s*it together or move on. MR is not getting any younger. I am not in the camp that is willing to give MR until he is past retirement age to show results.

AND...SF is worth the risk. If he gets it going, we have our revolving door of coaches solved long-term. I will be willing to take that risk with a young coach that happens to be one of our own, rather than taking a risk that Riley can get it turned around at age 65 or 66. Especially if we suffer another embarrassing end to this season.

That sounds very reasonable to me.

I think it will take a biblical miracle for us to have a good year. We look wayyyyyy below marginal. We'll see.....

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Why are you so sure that Frost wouldn't win here?

It really has little to do with Frost. The topic is double standards. Frost will get more slack than Riley. Rimington or Alberts will get more slack than Eichorst. If any of those people were to make similar decisions with similar results as their predecessors, the decisions wouldn't be immediately criticized or criticized with the same vigor. It's human nature.
Now if you want to talk about Frost specifically. People give him credit for turning around an 0-12 team but will discount or ignore the fact that that team was 9-4 the season before. Why is that? Easy, they want to find evidence that he will succeed at a Nebraska. Right now that is the only tangible evidence there is. The offense he runs is someone else's, the best seasons they had at Oregon was with a Heisman trophy winner running that offense. Sure Frost coached him, but someone was coaching Johnny Manziel too. Do you know where that guy is?

 

[Larry Hagman's Liver]

Maybe we shouldn't provide on-the-job training to unproven head coaches then. Marquee programs that are pining for the limelight shouldn't make that gamble.

We also cannot ignore the undertaking that Riley encountered. It was both a roster related undertaking as well as cultural. No other coach in Nebraska history had to do so much in so little in these regards.

If Riley gets canned, he can be rest assured that he left the program in a much better place then when he found it. Hopefully his work will aid Nebraska's future success once he's gone.

Couldn't agree more. It's crazy to me that Riley was the first HC hire since Devaney that had previous experience as a D-1 head coach. Worked great to cut against the grain with Osborne. Not so much with Solich, Callahan and Pelini.

 

[Wasker77]

I keep hearing about how Frost needs to be the next head coach at Nebraska and that if that happens he should get 5 years guaranteed, even if he has Mike Riley results for the first 3 or 4 seasons. What gives?

All these who talk big about good coaches winning right away(and if they don't, they should get fired) suddenly abandon their position when they bring up Scott.

The only thing I can think of is that it is because Frost is a home ground kid and we give those kinds of coaches special treatment. If you aren't from Nebraska or have ties, you are given a short leash and the honeymoon basically never exists. Better yet, you are labeled an experiment and are treated as doomed to fail.

All this Frost talk has brought out the hypocrisy at its finest.

This is all nonsense. No coach who consistently loses is going to get 5 years to prove themselves. I guarantee you when Saban retires even his successor will be gone after 3 years if he is losing. The same is true for a Illinois or Rutgers.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

This is all nonsense. No coach who consistently loses is going to get 5 years to prove themselves. I guarantee you when Saban retires even his successor will be gone after 3 years if he is losing. The same is true for a Illinois or Rutgers.

Define consistently losing.

 

[LZZOSO]

Yes there is hypocrisy, but I'd rather give a proven winner 5 years vs. a career mediocre guy 3. Now with that said, I don't think Frost is the answer. I'd say throw cash at Chip Kelly, and give him 5 years to build a speed train here. Yes, I know it's unrealistic, but we should be talking bigger names vs. the Nebraska way which will start in t-minus an hour.

 

[Harry Caray]

Yes there is hypocrisy, but I'd rather give a proven winner 5 years vs. a career mediocre guy 3. Now with that said, I don't think Frost is the answer. I'd say throw cash at Chip Kelly, and give him 5 years to build a speed train here. Yes, I know it's unrealistic, but we should be talking bigger names vs. the Nebraska way which will start in t-minus an hour.

Frost would run the same offense at Chip Kelly, and wouldn't bring any of the baggage. And Frost actually likes recruiting, whereas Kelly hates it.

 

[inWV]

Frost would get more time cause he's Scott Frost. Riley had a disappointing first season where he lost 7 games by an average of 4 points per game, a season that turned literally on a handful of plays. His second season was going very well and NU's first loss happened after taking the Badgers to OT in Camp Randall, as opposed to letting one of their tailbacks play name the yardage. That was followed by a crack on the noggin and a torn hamstring to what was our most important player.
The present season has included much drama and angst, as well as a canned AD. I certainly hope Riley and the team can turn things around and salvage the season. I think we know what will happen if he doesn't.

 

[LZZOSO]

Frost would run the same offense at Chip Kelly, and wouldn't bring any of the baggage. And Frost actually likes recruiting, whereas Kelly hates it.

Frost hasn't built a program yet, and got a ton of knowledge from Chip. Frost hasn't been to a National Title game. I'd take a guy who has been there first. Frost still has a few years to build his credentials until he is ready for NU.

 

[Harry Caray]

Frost hasn't built a program yet, and got a ton of knowledge from Chip. Frost hasn't been to a National Title game. I'd take a guy who has been there first. Frost still has a few years to build his credentials until he is ready for NU.

I'm just saying that Chip Kelly left for the NFL because he hates recruiting and committed recruiting violations. Frost wouldn't bring that baggage. Chip will fit in nicely in the SEC where he'll be in a fertile recruiting area and they'll look the other way when he cheats.

Dabo Swinney didn't even have coordinator experience when hired at Clemson. James Franklin and Paul Chryst only had a couple of average years at Vandy and Pitt. Lincoln Riley and Kirby Smart had no head-coaching experience. There's no guarantees with any hire, but what most of these successful coaches have in common is they are great fits. Chip Kelly would be an awkward fit here, especially if you didn't like Bo Pelini's personality.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

IF a change is to be made .... I would reach out to 1st Chryst then Brohm with a $5 million dollaroffer

both run an offense that can work with our personnel

both will not come but at least I would force bothWisconsin and Purdue to pony up more money than they want to keep them and possibly have to divert funds from other football related objectives. Those coaches might also have seeds of resentment if they view their current school viewing them as less valuable than Nebraksa does. Alvarez went to the TO school of penny pinching

I also put a feeler out to Richt -- 99% chance it is a no
but just like Lincoln, NE isn't for everyone thesame can be said for Miami, Florida. I don't thinkthe Neb job is better than Miami but the facilitiesare better. Again long shot and I would expect a no

 

[dinglefritz]

Frost would run the same offense at Chip Kelly, and wouldn't bring any of the baggage. And Frost actually likes recruiting, whereas Kelly hates it.

Doesn't Chip still have a show cause deal hanging over his head from the NCAA over his recruiting violations at Oregon? That said, not a fan of Chip. Don't need a head coach right now anywayWinking.

 

[LZZOSO]

I'm just saying that Chip Kelly left for the NFL because he hates recruiting and committed recruiting violations. Frost wouldn't bring that baggage. Chip will fit in nicely in the SEC where he'll be in a fertile recruiting area and they'll look the other way when he cheats.

Dabo Swinney didn't even have coordinator experience when hired at Clemson. James Franklin and Paul Chryst only had a couple of average years at Vandy and Pitt. Lincoln Riley and Kirby Smart had no head-coaching experience. There's no guarantees with any hire, but what most of these successful coaches have in common is they are great fits. Chip Kelly would be an awkward fit here, especially if you didn't like Bo Pelini's personality.

All I'm saying is I would rather take a known winner. Chip isn't my number one, but there are many other coaches over Frost that I'd take a shot at before going with Frost. I'm not part of the Tradition Coalition, and would rather wait to see what Frost does in a few years. I'd like us to keep Riley for at least 1 more year, as I believe he is stocking us with athletes, but if he doesn't work out we need a big name. My preference is to have a proven coach. Frost may be good, but he's unknown. After the last 4 coaches, it is no longer time to screw around and risk another 4 lost years and a continued slide into rock bottom.

 

[Wasker77]

Frost would run the same offense at Chip Kelly, and wouldn't bring any of the baggage. And Frost actually likes recruiting, whereas Kelly hates it.

Can't agree with you more. Chip Kelly is the same as Bo only he understands offense (Not sure he knows D)

 

[LZZOSO]

Can't agree with you more. Chip Kelly is the same as Bo only he understands offense (Not sure he knows D)

Since Bo made a National Title Game, and won conference championships..

 

[NikkiSixx_rivals269993]

Sorry but this isn't an experiment. MR should be given a minimum of 5 years. Bo left the cupboards bare and we all know it. MR has exceeded all my expectations in the recruiting aspect. Let this play out. I do think that a change needs to be made on the Oline though.

lol... you really believe that?

I know this is the line of BS that has been spewed on here for the last two years, but it doesn't make it true.

Now that he has his own players, Mike can barely make .500

I don't see how anyone who loves this program can defend the coach and his terrible results on the field.

 

[LZZOSO]

lol... you really believe that?

I know this is the line of BS that has been spewed on here for the last two years, but it doesn't make it true.

Now that he has his own players, Mike can barely make .500

I don't see how anyone who loves this program can defend the coach and his terrible results on the field.

I agree with Sparky. Our talent level was dog ****, and we are just now starting to get it on the right track. Did Bo recruit a few great players, yes. The depth of this team because of him though is terrible, and we are still working through all his busts. I'll start providing examples if you need it.

 

[coachDubs]

lol... you really believe that?

The NFL draft is a pretty good indicator on talent; Nebraska had 5 guys taken in the last 2 drafts tells me all I need to know about what Pelini left.

 

[nebcountry]

Frost hasn't built a program yet, and got a ton of knowledge from Chip. Frost hasn't been to a National Title game. I'd take a guy who has been there first. Frost still has a few years to build his credentials until he is ready for NU.

I don't have some coach picked in the event that Riley fails this season. So for either Frost or <insert name here>, this is how I look at it.

No one coming in has to build a program. The stadium is full every Saturday. The facilities are as good or better than others. There is an unknown amount of money that can be spent on staffing, but I would guess it's at least average to well above average. Whoever is coming in will likely land recruiting classes ranked 30th or better their first year here. Transition "yes", program building "no". I wouldn't talk playoff team because I don't think we are that close, but you mentioned it. Playoff contention would happen if recruiting picks up (or we land the "right" guys) and the schemes will work.

 

[Foosball is the devil]

IF a change is to be made .... I would reach out to 1st Chryst then Brohm with a $5 million dollaroffer

both run an offense that can work with our personnel

both will not come but at least I would force bothWisconsin and Purdue to pony up more money than they want to keep them and possibly have to divert funds from other football related objectives. Those coaches might also have seeds of resentment if they view their current school viewing them as less valuable than Nebraksa does. Alvarez went to the TO school of penny pinching

I also put a feeler out to Richt -- 99% chance it is a no
but just like Lincoln, NE isn't for everyone thesame can be said for Miami, Florida. I don't thinkthe Neb job is better than Miami but the facilitiesare better. Again long shot and I would expect a no

Chryst is already at his ceiling. No way do we want a Wisconsin lifer. Plus he is a colossal bore (have spent some time with the guy) and won't get over the west division hump.