Doubt mounting around Butch Jones at UT
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If we were talking 10 to 15 years ago, you would be correct. Over the last 5 or 6 years, our state has produced more 4 and 5 stars than South Carolina and Mississippi and they have been legit. If you like, I'll post a comparison of the charts to show you. The state of Alabama is who we're trailing now. They are producing more now, but we're closing the gap.
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Except we made adjustments and blew Florida out in the second half. As far as the UGA game, heartbreaks happen. Remember your premature celebration before LSU hit the long pass play for a TD? Big plays that end games are part of the game, bub. Kudos to Jauan Jennings for out fighting 5 UGA defenders for the ball.
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The kid at Oak Ridge plays for my brother in law. He was never going to UT regardless of the coach
IMO, Butch has one more season to atone. He is still recruiting well despite UT's downfalls. At this time they are ranked 9th in the country in recruiting for 2017. If he doesn't make some noise next year, he will be gone.
A loss to UK (I like our chances) would ensure the departure.
Botch has been given a bowl win served up perfectly. Committee saw fit to essentially give them a home game in Nashville against Nebraska who has injury issues with their QB and best WR. Doubt even he can screw this one up.
I agree - losing to UK is the unforgivable sin for a Tennessee coach.
Pikespeak1, please read TruBluCatFan's response.
Any "joke" explained losses all humor, but here goes.
The thread started with the link to an article questioning Butch Jones at UT, and the hold he has on his job . . . . and that is the Head Football Coach at UT.
Someone, I forget who (but he had a Kentucky sounding nickname) very snidely said that Butch Jones had managed to get a recruiting commitment from the number one offensive lineman from Tennessee, unlike Stoops (Kentucky's Head Football Coach). . . . in an apparent reference to this recruiting year's phenom in Kentucky, Wills . . . . a big o-lineman in a Lexington School, who is currently committed to Bama (Alabama).
Then another poster (very sarcastically and I thought humorously) queried the original poster, as to whether he was speaking about Landon Young (here's where it gets tough): By referencing the 2015 commit of Landon Young, the dude responding to the first guy who questioned Stoops for losing Wills, was putting it in his face by saying, again, in a fashion some find confusing . . . . "Hey dumbass, STOOPS LANDED THE BEST LINEMAN IN THE STATE LAST YEAR IN LANDON YOUNG." But he said it in a cool, sarcastic, humorous fashion. Kind of like when someone says about a football prognosticator, "Hell, he picked the Germans in World War II." Such a comment does not really mean someone who picks current football games thought the Germans would win WWII, or even that they were alive during WWII, it's just a sarcastic, over-the-top-statement that pushes home a particular point, in a fashion that some might find humorous.
OK, now, so when the one poster threw the mention of Landon Young up asking if that was the number one recruit Stoops had failed to land, I giggled, getting the joke that the 2nd poster was throwing Young's name up to show that Stoops has been a good recruiter... . and then I doubled down on the joke, by saying, something to the effect, that he must be referring to the loss of Drake Jackson . . . . and, yes, WE ALL KNOW WE DIDN'T LOSE JACKSON, . . . . that's the heart of the humor.
And I know it ain't funny, now.
Kinda' like me at a college party 30 years ago, speaking to a young lady who had asked a follow up question about a joke . . . . and my response . . . . "uhh, no, uhhh, in fact a Priest, a Rabbi and a Baptist Minister probably never have walked into a bar at the same time . . . . and that's like part of the reason why that was supposed to be funny . . . ."
Any "joke" explained losses all humor, but here goes.
The thread started with the link to an article questioning Butch Jones at UT, and the hold he has on his job . . . . and that is the Head Football Coach at UT.
Someone, I forget who (but he had a Kentucky sounding nickname) very snidely said that Butch Jones had managed to get a recruiting commitment from the number one offensive lineman from Tennessee, unlike Stoops (Kentucky's Head Football Coach). . . . in an apparent reference to this recruiting year's phenom in Kentucky, Wills . . . . a big o-lineman in a Lexington School, who is currently committed to Bama (Alabama).
Then another poster (very sarcastically and I thought humorously) queried the original poster, as to whether he was speaking about Landon Young (here's where it gets tough): By referencing the 2015 commit of Landon Young, the dude responding to the first guy who questioned Stoops for losing Wills, was putting it in his face by saying, again, in a fashion some find confusing . . . . "Hey dumbass, STOOPS LANDED THE BEST LINEMAN IN THE STATE LAST YEAR IN LANDON YOUNG." But he said it in a cool, sarcastic, humorous fashion. Kind of like when someone says about a football prognosticator, "Hell, he picked the Germans in World War II." Such a comment does not really mean someone who picks current football games thought the Germans would win WWII, or even that they were alive during WWII, it's just a sarcastic, over-the-top-statement that pushes home a particular point, in a fashion that some might find humorous.
OK, now, so when the one poster threw the mention of Landon Young up asking if that was the number one recruit Stoops had failed to land, I giggled, getting the joke that the 2nd poster was throwing Young's name up to show that Stoops has been a good recruiter... . and then I doubled down on the joke, by saying, something to the effect, that he must be referring to the loss of Drake Jackson . . . . and, yes, WE ALL KNOW WE DIDN'T LOSE JACKSON, . . . . that's the heart of the humor.
And I know it ain't funny, now.
Kinda' like me at a college party 30 years ago, speaking to a young lady who had asked a follow up question about a joke . . . . and my response . . . . "uhh, no, uhhh, in fact a Priest, a Rabbi and a Baptist Minister probably never have walked into a bar at the same time . . . . and that's like part of the reason why that was supposed to be funny . . . ."
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7-8 wins a year and bowl sounds great...if CMS can do that for 10 years we'll raise a statue of him...
You are absolutely correct. Steve Spurrier knew he could take the train wreck of South Carolina's program and recruit based on his name. They succeeded to the level we are approaching. However, until he convinced the best SC high school athletes beginning with Ashon Jeffries and later Marcus Lattimore did his recruiting start to match SEC's best. They also began to win in the 10-11 range.
We somehow need to keep Jed Wills home as well as the best of Kentucky's kids. Then our recruiting classes move the needle toward top ten classes. Yes, consistently winning clearly helps recruiting. Why not?
I was going to pull up that old thread where a poster picked Germany to win WWII, but I remembered I gave him crap for his pick then and we don't like to remind people of their poor wagers after the fact.
He was committed to us for a long time. Don't be surprised if he flips back to us in the 11th hour.
Besides, I know it may seem a bit naive, but I think he may have been in Landon Young's shadow a little bit in high school and may not want to get in that situation again!