DOWN GOES ANTIFA

[bornaneer]

By the content of your posts it seems like facts went out the window for you a long time ago, but here’s one last shot. Anyone who usually whips out Chicago murder stats at the drop of a hat usually doesn’t have all their beans counted if you catch my drift.
I bet Foxnews didn’t cover much of this one.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/georgia-attorney-general-district-attorney-investigation-ahmaud-arbery/

Oh...I have all my beans counted...and...unlike you I post verifiable facts.......instead of your mumbo-jumbo babble.
I don't get my Chicago genocide stats from FoxNews.

 

[atlkvb]

We know they exist and are dangerous, but who are “they”? There is no structured system to go after. They were just a bunch of pissed off people trying to shut up nazis and it turned into a bunch of bored white kids looking for reasons to break stuff. Is this really a terrorist organization and the KKK isn’t?

Do you know or are you aware the Democrat party both created and ran the KKK? I'll bet you have no clue.

Did you know that the Democratic Party defended slavery, started the Civil War, founded the KKK, and fought against every major civil rights act in U.S. history? Watch as Carol Swain, professor of political science at Vanderbilt University, shares the inconvenient history of the Democratic Party.


https://www.prageru.com/video/the-inconvenient-truth-about-the-democratic-party/

 

[dave]

We know they exist and are dangerous, but who are “they”? There is no structured system to go after. They were just a bunch of pissed off people trying to shut up nazis and it turned into a bunch of bored white kids looking for reasons to break stuff. Is this really a terrorist organization and the KKK isn’t?

There is absolutely a structured organization. If you dont realuze this you are not paying attention.

 

[302eer]

Oh...I have all my beans counted...and...unlike you I post verifiable facts.......instead of your mumbo-jumbo babble.
I don't get my Chicago genocide stats from FoxNews.

So did you skip the article orrrr... ?

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

We know they exist and are dangerous, but who are “they”? There is no structured system to go after. They were just a bunch of pissed off people trying to shut up nazis and it turned into a bunch of bored white kids looking for reasons to break stuff. Is this really a terrorist organization and the KKK isn’t?

Why do you keep bringing up the Klan? There is literally no connection. However, to answer your question, I’m fine labeling them as well. Do you think Antifa is operating and organizing without funding? We’ll find out where those dollars are coming from.

 

[302eer]

Why do you keep bringing up the Klan? There is literally no connection. However, to answer your question, I’m fine labeling them as well. Do you think Antifa is operating and organizing without funding? We’ll find out where those dollars are coming from.

It’s because there are zero domestic terror groups labeled in the US, and this is the one they’re choosing finally to go after. It is illegal.

 

[302eer]

It is legal to label them a terror group. These riots do have centralized organization. There is plenty of evidence.

You have a good link on the legality? Everything I’ve seen says you cannot designate domestically a title reserved for foreign groups.

 

[atlkvb]

So did you skip the article orrrr... ?

Did you watch my video?

 

[bornaneer]

My Man check yourself. If you're really concerned about the plight of my Black Brothers and Sisters and how we're being mistreated why aren't you protesting the fact we can't send our kids to the schools of our choice with school vouchers? Isn't that a better solution to the random police violence? A whole army of well educated Black men and Women smart enough to avoid confrontations with racist cops?

Why don't you support that?

He supports the party of the KKK......The Democratic Party. He has swallowed their ********.....just like those fools swallowed cyanide at Jonestown.......which was founded by another liberal Democrat freak.

 

[atlkvb]

He supports the party of the KKK......The Democratic Party. He has swallowed their ********.....just like those fools swallowed cyanide at Jonestown.......which was founded by another liberal Democrat freak.

I'm not sure what his politics are. However I have not heard a peep from him about those FISA abuses or school choice vouchers for poor Black folks.

I'd suggest he knows nothing of the KKK's origins either, and won't even acknowledge who its authors were?

 

[atlkvb]

You have a good link on the legality? Everything I’ve seen says you cannot designate domestically a title reserved for foreign groups.

Ever heard of the Weather Underground?

 

[302eer]

Do you know or are you aware the Democrat party both created and ran the KKK? I'll bet you have no clue.

Did you know that the Democratic Party defended slavery, started the Civil War, founded the KKK, and fought against every major civil rights act in U.S. history? Watch as Carol Swain, professor of political science at Vanderbilt University, shares the inconvenient history of the Democratic Party.


https://www.prageru.com/video/the-inconvenient-truth-about-the-democratic-party/

Did you watch my video?

I actually did, yes, but it’s nothing I haven’t known for some time as someone who loves history and doesn’t love the two party system (I voted for Trump btw) It’s a great thing to pull out but doesn’t mean much in an actual conversation, all it does is mostly give people excuses. What does Lincoln being a republican have to do with today? Being on the right side of history is a choice you make everyday.

 

[atlkvb]

I actually did, yes, but it’s nothing I haven’t known for some time as someone who loves history and doesn’t love the two party system (I voted for Trump btw) It’s a great thing to pull out but doesn’t mean much in an actual conversation, all it does is mostly give people excuses. What does Lincoln being a republican have to do with today? Being on the right side of history is a choice you make everyday.

I'm surprised you are as indifferent of Lincoln's contributions to hold this union together primarily for the cause of race and racism given how upset you appear to be over how cops are handling the civil rights of Black folks?

That is very interesting to me. Also, why haven't you answered my question about the FISA abuses or school choice vouchers?

 

[302eer]

I'm not sure what his politics are. However I have not heard a peep from him about those FISA abuses or school choice vouchers for poor Black folks.

I'd suggest he knows nothing of the KKK's origins either, and won't even acknowledge who its authors were?

I’ve never voted for a democrat in my life until this next election. The fact you think you can pin my party down just because of what I’ve said tonight is just ridiculous. Exactly why I argue more with conservatives than liberals, racial equality shouldn’t be partisan. Should I be surprised though? No

 

[atlkvb]

I’ve never voted for a democrat in my life until this next election. The fact you think you can pin my party down just because of what I’ve said tonight is just ridiculous. Exactly why I argue more with conservatives than liberals, racial equality shouldn’t be partisan. Should I be surprised though? No

So you support school choice vouchers?

 

[302eer]

I'm surprised you are as indifferent of Lincoln's contributions to hold this union together primarily for the cause of race and racism given how upset you appear to be over how cops are handling the civil rights of Black folks?

That is very interesting to me. Also, why haven't you answered my question about the FISA abuses or school choice vouchers?

I answered about FISA you must’ve missed it. Of course I’m pissed about that which is why I’m even here in this thread. My friend works for the Delaware senator that voted no on the amendment to ban FBI warrantless collection of internet history and we haven’t been on great speaking terms the last few weeks since I called him out on it.

My question back to you was why in the world, after everything I said, would you think I wouldn’t care about that?

 

[atlkvb]

I answered about FISA you must’ve missed it. Of course I’m pissed about that which is why I’m even here in this thread. My friend works for the Delaware senator that voted no on the amendment to ban FBI warrantless collection of internet history and we haven’t been on great speaking terms the last few weeks since I called him out on it.

My question back to you was why in the world, after everything I said, would you think I wouldn’t care about that?

I must have missed it. Didn't see it. Have to go back through the thread. I happen to believe it's one of the most egregious violations of our Constitutional protections against unreasonable search ever--particularly the unmasking of those names! I hope the folks responsible for that have Hell to pay.

If you're upset about it, I just missed your posts of OUTRAGE similar to the ones about cops killing Negroes for no reason.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

I’ve never voted for a democrat in my life until this next election. The fact you think you can pin my party down just because of what I’ve said tonight is just ridiculous. Exactly why I argue more with conservatives than liberals, racial equality shouldn’t be partisan. Should I be surprised though? No

Who is arguing against racial equality?

 

[wvu2007]

Let's get back to the original point of this thread. ANTIFA is going down.

 

[bornaneer]

So did you skip the article orrrr... ?

No....I read it.....I knew about this miscarriage of justice long before tonight......FoxNews ran a piece on it some time ago.
I hope they investigate....and justice is served.
looks like some dirty dealings to me.

 

[302eer]

I must have missed it. Didn't see it. Have to go back through the thread. I happen to believe it's one of the most egregious violations of our Constitutional protections against unreasonable search ever--particularly the unmasking of those names! I hope the folks responsible for that have Hell to pay.

If you're upset about it, I just missed your posts of OUTRAGE similar to the ones about cops killing Negroes for no reason.

That’s easy, I don’t see people out here on the side of the side of the FBI saying we need more warrantless searches. C’mon now. The feeling of helplessness and loss of civil liberties is probably a good learning moment to feel what these minorities who feel they don’t have the same ones as us, and the evidence they’re right is enormous.
I saw a video earlier where someone asked a crowded lecture hall if they would like to be treated how a black person does, do you have an honest answer for this? I also bet you could guess how many hands raised. Chris Rock also has a great joke where he says there isn’t a white person in the crowd that would trade places with him, and he’s rich.
It’s just time we started all being on the same playing field.

 

[atlkvb]

I answered about FISA you must’ve missed it. Of course I’m pissed about that which is why I’m even here in this thread. My friend works for the Delaware senator that voted no on the amendment to ban FBI warrantless collection of internet history and we haven’t been on great speaking terms the last few weeks since I called him out on it.

My question back to you was why in the world, after everything I said, would you think I wouldn’t care about that?

O-K, I just went back through the thread, and the only direct response I saw from you about those FISA abuses was this:

Do I seem like someone who trusts the government and wouldn’t be upset about FISA abuses? That’s why I even entered this threat even knowing what would happen. You cannot let the government say something like antifa is a domestic terrorism unit, when we don’t even know what antifa is. It’s an excuse to surveil basically anyone they want to with very small amount of evidence.
Where does it stop? If they try to take the guns away and me and you protest, are we domestic terrorists next? You could make that argument very easily with something as vague as this.

If that's your answer to the question I asked you about those abuses, then you know why I missed it.

 

[wvu2007]

Antifa terrorist arrested

 

[wvu2007]

 

[atlkvb]

Antifa terrorist arrested

Hey folks...guess what? I F'd up!

Yeah 'ya did....now your dumb *** is going to prison so you can share 'yo Booty with the Brothers! [smoke]

 

[wvu2007]

Bloomers and 302, this is what yall are defending

 

[302eer]

Who is arguing against racial equality?

We have someone in here dropping the term negroes like it’s the 50s, it’s alway about racial equality.

 

[wvu2007]

We have someone in here dropping the term negroes like it’s the 50s, it’s alway about racial equality.

Lol!

 

[atlkvb]

We have someone in here dropping the term negroes like it’s the 50s, it’s alway about racial equality.

Hey news flash you SJW.... I'm a Negro! I get to call my own race anything I want to right? You should hear what we call each other when White folks ain't around! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[atlkvb]

Hey @302eer ...you said ITT you support Trump, and Trump supports school choice vouchers for private schools as well as charter schools both private and public. He's all about school choice.

Are you "Pro choice"? Do you support school choice vouchers?

Do you support abortion vouchers? (taxpayer funded abortions particularly for Black expectant mothers?)

Will you answer me or just pontificate more about me using the word "Negroes?"

 

[bornaneer]

That’s easy, I don’t see people out here on the side of the side of the FBI saying we need more warrantless searches. C’mon now. The feeling of helplessness and loss of civil liberties is probably a good learning moment to feel what these minorities who feel they don’t have the same ones as us, and the evidence they’re right is enormous.
I saw a video earlier where someone asked a crowded lecture hall if they would like to be treated how a black person does, do you have an honest answer for this? I also bet you could guess how many hands raised. Chris Rock also has a great joke where he says there isn’t a white person in the crowd that would trade places with him, and he’s rich.
It’s just time we started all being on the same playing field.

So...what do you want me as a white person to do.........Spend my life on a perpetual guilt trip for something I have never done, believed in or been a part of?
Or is it simply because I am white.

 

[Boomboom521]

If you’re seriously trying to rationalize this behavior as something society had coming, then I question your sobriety and sanity. Use the courts. We all have equal protection under the law. This is lawlessness and if they’re trying to change hearts and minds to be sympathetic, this is having an opposite effect. As to your NFL example, choosing the National Anthem and flag to disrespect also had the opposite effect. They took something sacred to me that I’d buried friends for and metaphorically took a giant **** on. It brought awareness but the divisiveness alienated a large segment who, like me, may have otherwise been sympathetic.

The worst thing about this specific incident, imo, is that it was an obvious situation that would be a massive help to the cause that should be at the heart of this issue. That some cops shouldn’t be cops, and we need to do a better job of getting these guys out from behind a badge BEFORE a situations goes this far to tragedy. There are many situations that have happened in the past, where it was questionable that the officer did the wrong thing by using excessive force that resulted in death. I remember a big guy in Nawlins (I think) where he was wrestling on the ground with the cop, and the cop fired three into the guy while on his back. There was outrage, and I thought the cop was justified.

I haven’t heard a single person dispute that this video showed us a man who should t have had a badge doing something clearly wrong and unacceptable. But instead of this conversation on the national level (and legislative level) about screening and training and fixing the fvcking problem, we are going to that old discussion about whether the rage and destruction and violence Is justified.

Clearly it’s not. It never really is, imo. I’m not a pacifist totally, but violence, like this, rarely fixes a problem. This isn’t a government that isn’t equipped to deal with these issues (racial at its heart or not). We know this because we’ve seen the changes. Should there be more changes? Sure. But a rage against the machine mentality in the USA isn’t just useless and counterproductive, it’s a false understanding of this nation and it’s history. We have made great changes in the last 50 years, and have the mojo to make more.

Something like this happens, giving the mojo for change a clear and obvious path (a man clearly not cop material, with 18 prior complaints that shouldn't be on the force - racist or not) that can make real, effective change if followed. But everything goes sideways. It’s such a missed opportunity.

 

[bornaneer]

Hey news flash you SJW.... I'm a Negro! I get to call my own race anything I want to right? You should hear what we call each other when White folks ain't around! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Oh....Oh......you have done it now........TOM

 

[atlkvb]

Here 'ya go @302eer ...listen to this song (it's from deep in the 'hood) and listen to what Homegirl calls her Boo in the third stanza. (*hint...it's the N word and it's NOT Negro!) [winking]

 

[wvu2007]

The worst thing about this specific incident, imo, is that it was an obvious situation that would be a massive help to the cause that should be at the heart of this issue. That some cops shouldn’t be cops, and we need to do a better job of getting these guys out from behind a badge BEFORE a situations goes this far to tragedy. There are many situations that have happened in the past, where it was questionable that the officer did the wrong thing by using excessive force that resulted in death. I remember a big guy in Nawlins (I think) where he was wrestling on the ground with the cop, and the cop fired three into the guy while on his back. There was outrage, and I thought the cop was justified.

I haven’t heard a single person dispute that this video showed us a man who should t have had a badge doing something clearly wrong and unacceptable. But instead of this conversation on the national level (and legislative level) about screening and training and fixing the fvcking problem, we are going to that old discussion about whether the rage and destruction and violence Is justified.

Clearly it’s not. It never really is, imo. I’m not a pacifist totally, but violence, like this, rarely fixes a problem. This isn’t a government that isn’t equipped to deal with these issues (racial at its heart or not). We know this because we’ve seen the changes. Should there be more changes? Sure. But a rage against the machine mentality in the USA isn’t just useless and counterproductive, it’s a false understanding of this nation and it’s history. We have made great changes in the last 50 years, and have the mojo to make more.

Something like this happens, giving the mojo for change a clear and obvious path (a man clearly not cop material, with 18 prior complaints that shouldn't be on the force - racist or not) that can make real, effective change if followed. But everything goes sideways. It’s such a missed opportunity.

See, you're making sense here. You do have hope.

 

[atlkvb]

Oh....Oh......you have done it now........TOM

I'm educating him about my "political correctness" when it comes to my own race. [winking]

 

[Boomboom521]

Why do you keep bringing up the Klan? There is literally no connection. However, to answer your question, I’m fine labeling them as well. Do you think Antifa is operating and organizing without funding? We’ll find out where those dollars are coming from.

I’m digging this motivation. I’m tired of hearing about this protest conspiracy stuff. It’s not that I don’t believe it’s possible for paid protesters and even wholly funded protests to be created with money for completely different political intentions than what’s being expressed, but I don’t think it’s on the level in which the actual message and sentiment of the protests are not sincere.

I think it always bleeding into the conversation is unhealthy and needs to stop. Should be simple enough (esp in this type of situation where so much property is damaged) to investigate and charge any massive financial contributors to these protests. I hope we use this as an opportunity to track the money and get it out there. I’m not sure why it hasn’t happened yet.

 

[Boomboom521]

See, you're making sense here. You do have hope.

I doubt it

 

[wvu2007]

I’m digging this motivation. I’m tired of hearing about this protest conspiracy stuff. It’s not that I don’t believe it’s possible for paid protesters and even wholly funded protests to be created with money for completely different political intentions than what’s being expressed, but I don’t think it’s on the level in which the actual message and sentiment of the protests are not sincere.

I think it always bleeding into the conversation is unhealthy and needs to stop. Should be simple enough (esp in this type of situation where so much property is damaged) to investigate and charge any massive financial contributors to these protests. I hope we use this as an opportunity to track the money and get it out there. I’m not sure why it hasn’t happened yet.

It's been going on for a while.

See what happens in this video with the protesters, their handlers, the signs and where they are from.

 

[atlkvb]

The worst thing about this specific incident, imo, is that it was an obvious situation that would be a massive help to the cause that should be at the heart of this issue. That some cops shouldn’t be cops, and we need to do a better job of getting these guys out from behind a badge BEFORE a situations goes this far to tragedy. There are many situations that have happened in the past, where it was questionable that the officer did the wrong thing by using excessive force that resulted in death. I remember a big guy in Nawlins (I think) where he was wrestling on the ground with the cop, and the cop fired three into the guy while on his back. There was outrage, and I thought the cop was justified.

I haven’t heard a single person dispute that this video showed us a man who should t have had a badge doing something clearly wrong and unacceptable. But instead of this conversation on the national level (and legislative level) about screening and training and fixing the fvcking problem, we are going to that old discussion about whether the rage and destruction and violence Is justified.

Clearly it’s not. It never really is, imo. I’m not a pacifist totally, but violence, like this, rarely fixes a problem. This isn’t a government that isn’t equipped to deal with these issues (racial at its heart or not). We know this because we’ve seen the changes. Should there be more changes? Sure. But a rage against the machine mentality in the USA isn’t just useless and counterproductive, it’s a false understanding of this nation and it’s history. We have made great changes in the last 50 years, and have the mojo to make more.

Something like this happens, giving the mojo for change a clear and obvious path (a man clearly not cop material, with 18 prior complaints that shouldn't be on the force - racist or not) that can make real, effective change if followed. But everything goes sideways. It’s such a missed opportunity.

Hey look at boomer talking like a rational American outraged over both violence and injustice. Good post, well stated.