Dr. Ben Carson is on my watch out list now (not watch)

TarHeelEer

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Some very bad theology on Easter morning, Dr. Carson. If your theology is that out of whack, just don't publicize it.
 
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Are you going to provide some sort of link

to substantiate your claim? or just leave us wondering what you are talking about because about half of us have no idea what he said?
 

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"As Easter approaches, let us remember the role that Jesus Christ and God play in our lives. Let us also remember that Jews, Christians and Muslims all believe in God, and while there are ideological differences in who Jesus was, we should find peace in the fact that we are all God's children. Jesus is my role model, and he preached love, he preached acceptance. He also was a man of values and principles, and he ended up being crucified for it. But, he rose again to advocate godly principles of loving our fellow man, caring about our neighbors, developing our God-given talents to the utmost so that we become valuable to the people around us, and maintaining high ideals that govern our lives. We must make certain that people of all types of faith are respected by one another. Let us remember that the First Amendment to the United States Constitution is one of the basic pillars of our system of governance and a founding principle of our nation, as it protects religious freedom. It is critical that we allow Americans to practice their religious ways, while also ensuring that no one's beliefs infringe upon those of others.

Throughout the globe we must serve as champions of freedom of religion. As people across the world are persecuted by religious fanatics who perform hateful acts of ignorance, we Americans have a duty to denounce these acts of persecution. By standing up to such intolerance, we are defending the root of our freedom. I enjoy the following quote from the second Chronicles 7:14, "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves and pray, and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sins and will heal their land."
 

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Re: Are you going to provide some sort of link

I dont havea problem with what he said. It may not fit my theology but he is running for president and not pastor of my church.
 

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I just wish he hadn't said anything

It's subtle, but my radar picked up on it immediately. We're not all God's children, we're all God's creation. Jesus didn't die on the cross because of His principles, He died for our sins. He didn't just preach love and acceptance.

I despise it when Christians get into positions of broadcasting their beliefs, and then their beliefs fall short of the Bible.

He's not going to make it to president, so make it count.
 

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he hasn't demonstrated leadership necessary in a president


he is inexperienced, just like BO.

BO was the social experiment that failed.
 

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at least he has had a real job.
 
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I actually gained a lot of respect for him, although I'm sure he's not trying to win over the left. I think you are splitting hairs with the God's children/God's creation thing. One could argue if we are all created in God's likeness and image (isn't that what your Bible says?) then we are God's children, although some have not come to the saving grace of Jesus Christ.

This is what I absolutely despise about Christianity in America today. They have gotten so far away from the main message of Christ, love thy neighbor as thyself and win the lost. They have made it all about politics and hate. Christianity isn't much different than Islam. They want a theocratic nation and want everyone to live by their rules and condemn anyone who thinks/believes differently.

There are many in Christianity/right wing politics that are so blinded that they don't even recognize that Ted Cruz is extreme right wing. He shut down the federal government because of politics. There were Christian (and non-Christian) families that worked for the federal government that wondered if they were going to put food on the table when the government was shut down and there were Christians cheering him on and praising him for doing such a wonderful thing. That is such screwed up thinking.

People do stupid things in this country in the name of their faith and nothing could be further from the will of God.
 

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He has a column in the Cumberland MD. paper everyday

not sure why. He confuses me because some of his ideas seem pretty whacky for being a neurosurgeon. He seems pretty committed and honest though, doesn't seem to ever pander even when it isn't doing him any favors.
 

TarHeelEer

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we want a theocracy? Says who?

I'm about as right wing Christian as you get, and my view is more Libertarian than Republican. For instance, I voted against NC1 a few years ago. Defining marriage as one man/one woman I agree with, but 1) it's not government's job to define marriage in ANY regard, and 2) they limited the relationships they recognized to marriage.

I guess if you're going to speak for me there's nothing left for me to say.
 

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I disagree a bit

Originally posted by countryroads89:

This is what I absolutely despise about Christianity in America today. They have gotten so far away from the main message of Christ, love thy neighbor as thyself and win the lost. They have made it all about politics and hate. Christianity isn't much different than Islam. They want a theocratic nation and want everyone to live by their rules and condemn anyone who thinks/believes differently.

People do stupid things in this country in the name of their faith and nothing could be further from the will of God.
I think you're painting with too broad of a brush. There is certainly some merit to your points, but the majority of my Christian friends believe the main message of Christ. It seems the most vocal are pushing for a theocratic nation, but I don't think the majority are. This one gets me because I don't see how you can say how great this nation is and how much you love it while also trying to push laws based on religion.

There are certainly issues with SOME Christians, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's an overwhelming problem with Christianity in America today.

Your other point ... it isn't just this country. People have been doing stupid things in the name of their faith forever and will always continue to do so. But that doesn't mean everybody that practices faith does this.
 

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Funny that someone who makes everything about politics has a problem with people who make everything about politics. This goes back to my earlier point that you struggle with people who disagree with you.