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He's an upgrade at rb coach. He's a journeyman in the coaching profession but has been at some big programs. Also head coach for a few years at Tenple. He also coached Ezekiel Elliott at OH State.
 

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What I posted in my thread: Had good rushing attacks at Texas, with around 200 ypg his last few years there. PSU was decent with 170 ypg this season. Had top 10 nationally rushing ypg from 2012-2014 at OSU (but, everyone is good at OSU).

Looks like a very solid hire at the position. He's a proven coach at the position. He's jumped around A LOT for some reason...Mississippi State, UF, UT, Syracuse, UF again, OSU, Texas, PSU...but he's had at least decent and quite a few very good rushing attacks everywhere he's been.
 
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sclawman77

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What I posted in my thread: Had good rushing attacks at Texas, with around 200 ypg his last few years there. PSU was decent with 170 ypg this season. Had top 10 nationally rushing ypg from 2012-2014 at OSU (but, everyone is good at OSU).

Looks like a very solid hire at the position. He's a proven coach at the position. He's jumped around A LOT for some reason Mississippi State, UF, UT, Syracuse, UF again, OSU, Texas, PSU, but he's had at least decent and quite a few very good rushing attacks everywhere he's been.
He's coached some very successful backs. Hopefully can help develop what we have on the roster and bring in some talent too.
 
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It’s kind of put up or shut up with coaches for me now. Shula was also a journeyman, having been HC @ Alabama and OC for the Panthers and Cam Newton but that didn’t pan out.
 

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It’s kind of put up or shut up with coaches for me now. Shula was also a journeyman, having been HC @ Alabama and OC for the Panthers and Cam Newton but that didn’t pan out.
There is no comparison between Drayton's and Shula's resumes. Drayton has been a mainstay at blue blood programs for two decades, producing successful run games at every stop.
 

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It looks like Clements was an assistant OL coach at TCU - guess he wasn`t the main one responsible.
 

RAtheOLcoach

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Elliott was sort of on the cutting edge of zone blocking concepts in college when he came to us from App State. He's not on the cutting edge of anything now.
What???? Elliot as much as I love him was not on the cutting edge of zone blocking. Teams have been zone blocking since the 90’s. There are only three ways to block the run game, veer, zone, gap. That’s it.
 
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18IsTheMan

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It looks like Clements was an assistant OL coach at TCU - guess he wasn`t the main one responsible.
Ah, gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. I saw the early posts that we were hiring TCU's OL coach and then saw Clements and assumed they were one and the same.
 

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What???? Elliot as much as I love him was not on the cutting edge of zone blocking. Teams have been zone blocking since the 90’s. There are only three ways to block the run game, veer, zone, gap. That’s it.
And NFL teams are running zone schemes regularly. You can spot a zone run a mile a way by watching what the OL does.
 
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There is no comparison between Drayton's and Shula's resumes. Drayton has been a mainstay at blue blood programs for two decades, producing successful run games at every stop.
I agree with your point...but mainSTAY might not be the term.
 

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What???? Elliot as much as I love him was not on the cutting edge of zone blocking. Teams have been zone blocking since the 90’s. There are only three ways to block the run game, veer, zone, gap. That’s it.
You left out our blocking scheme...the lego...let em go...right through to the qb
 
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What???? Elliot as much as I love him was not on the cutting edge of zone blocking. Teams have been zone blocking since the 90’s. There are only three ways to block the run game, veer, zone, gap. That’s it.
Well, we hadn't caught up to it here until Elliott pitched himself to Spurrier. "Coach, I can help your team".
 

18IsTheMan

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I agree with your point...but mainSTAY might not be the term.
No, I commented on that in another thread. He's never stayed anywhere long, but he's always been picked up by a blue blood program (aside from his brief NFL stint, a year at Syracuse and while the HC at Temple).
 

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I understand that. But he wasn’t revolutionary. We ran zone runs when Brad Scott was here.
Yep, but if you remember, Shawn was involved with a more evolved zone running game offense @ App St. and it was one reason we hired him, especially with Marcus coming in. IIRC, Marcus ran that stuff in HS.
I always felt we merged Shawn's run game playbook with Steve's passing game. Steve finally got on board with the dual threat concept & Mangus was also pushing it. Won us a lot of games.

Why aren't we aren't running zone reads with Sellers. The Ravens run it with Lamar Jackson.

Here's a clip of the Patriots running it in a preseason game from '24.
 
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Yep, but if you remember, Shawn was involved with a more evolved zone running game offense @ App St. and it was one reason we hired him, especially with Marcus coming in. IIRC, Marcus ran that stuff in HS.
I always felt we merged Shawn's run game playbook with Steve's passing game. Steve finally got on board with the dual threat concept & Mangus was also pushing it. Won us a lot of games.

Why aren't we aren't running zone reads with Sellers. The Ravens run it with Lamar Jackson.

Here's a clip of the Patriots running it in a preseason game from '24.

So maybe Shawn WAS cutting edge as he insinuated to Spurrier.
 

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Yep, but if you remember, Shawn was involved with a more evolved zone running game offense @ App St. and it was one reason we hired him, especially with Marcus coming in. IIRC, Marcus ran that stuff in HS.
I always felt we merged Shawn's run game playbook with Steve's passing game. Steve finally got on board with the dual threat concept & Mangus was also pushing it. Won us a lot of games.

Why aren't we aren't running zone reads with Sellers. The Ravens run it with Lamar Jackson.

Here's a clip of the Patriots running it in a preseason game from '24.

IMO, USC didn’t have a strong running game which is necessary to forestall the defense enough for the QB to have the option.
 

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It’s kind of put up or shut up with coaches for me now. Shula was also a journeyman, having been HC @ Alabama and OC for the Panthers and Cam Newton but that didn’t pan out.
He probably ruined Cam Newton's game as well.
 

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Yep, but if you remember, Shawn was involved with a more evolved zone running game offense @ App St. and it was one reason we hired him, especially with Marcus coming in. IIRC, Marcus ran that stuff in HS.
I always felt we merged Shawn's run game playbook with Steve's passing game. Steve finally got on board with the dual threat concept & Mangus was also pushing it. Won us a lot of games.

Why aren't we aren't running zone reads with Sellers. The Ravens run it with Lamar Jackson.

Here's a clip of the Patriots running it in a preseason game from '24.

We ran a lot of zone read with Sellers. A LOT. And in my humble opinion he missed a ton of pull reads. In his defense, I think Shula coached him to pull it as a last resort, to try to keep him healthy. And that caused our backs to get tackled for loss a good bit.
The thing I loved about what Shawn did was at App they had the ability to read every D lineman. So instead of just your traditional inside zone where they read the End Man On the Line of Scrimmage (EMOLs), they could read the 3 tech, the 1 tech, head up nose. And they would do that on the first drive, every game in order to get a feel for how that guy would play it. That way, later in the game they knew how to manipulate him. Another Elliot special was the pin and pull scheme we saw with Connor and Pharoah cooper a lot. If you have him a 7 technique against a TE, he was running pin and pull. And it was great.
 

RAtheOLcoach

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We ran a lot of zone read with Sellers. A LOT. And in my humble opinion he missed a ton of pull reads. In his defense, I think Shula coached him to pull it as a last resort, to try to keep him healthy. And that caused our backs to get tackled for loss a good bit.
The thing I loved about what Shawn did was at App they had the ability to read every D lineman. So instead of just your traditional inside zone where they read the End Man On the Line of Scrimmage (EMOLs), they could read the 3 tech, the 1 tech, head up nose. And they would do that on the first drive, every game in order to get a feel for how that guy would play it. That way, later in the game they knew how to manipulate him. Another Elliot special was the pin and pull scheme we saw with Connor and Pharoah cooper a lot. If you have him a 7 technique against a TE, he was running pin and pull. And it was great.
Btw, I don’t call it cutting edge, because we were doing this when I was at Berkeley HS in 14 and 15
 

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And in my humble opinion he missed a ton of pull reads.
How does Sellers expect to be a QB at the next level if he can't run this play?
I looked at his stats. He avg'd 4.1 yds/carry in '24. It dropped to 1.8 yds/carry in '25.
Might explain why some former coaches are no longer employed at USC.