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You're only speculating. Of course, we'll never know because uk was unable to hold up their part of the bargain.
You're correct sir. But i don't think any of us will ever witness something like that again from a power conference team
I like how you throw the "power conference" out there as if it makes it more impressive that Kentucky went undefeated in the SEC. Duke may not have went undefeated in the ACC, but they did go undefeated outside of the ACC. I will take that any day over winning 38 in a row.
My reference is to that of the witcha states of the world. When you play mostly church league talent outside of your conference, you tend to go undefeated
While this reputation exists, I think it's overblown. The SEC is simply less skilled than other big conferences. SEC teams are still loaded with tall, strong and fast guys. It is a physical grind, but skilled teams will do well against them. When those athletic squads do get hot, and do shoot the occasional 40% from deep, they are tough to beat. Rebounding and D is pretty strong in SEC country.
The championships won in the late 40's and early 50's were NIT championships because the NIT was the big tournament back then so how are they NCAA championships? furthermore those championships were won because of point shaving so I really don't know how those are even counted.
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Wait. Against the teams you did? Mmmmmmmkay? Yeah, that SEC schedule was brutal. As was IU. Heh...
1. NO sane uk fan is calling 40-0 ever again. The only reason it was ever brought up was due to our success in 2015. Show me 1 true uk fan than says it seriously we will go 40-0.
2. Developing 4 year players ok. How about josh harrelson who got drafted while plumber continues to develop. Derek wills another 4 yr guy who could very well be drafted next year. Alex poythress was pretty damn good before his knee injury but graduated in 3 years for being an athletic ape. Sometimes you get guys that could of went to Harvard for free like Brandon knight because they are so damn smart. Point is you have a small window to make your money and some guys leave early.
3. This isn't 1995 anymore where Garnett being the 2nd player to jump to the nba. The come to duke and be set for life pitch is bs unless you're aspiring to be an ESPN analyst. How much money you think duke will send thorton and his family since he supposed to be set for life? Kids today want the fastest and best way to reach their dreams. Which include fortune, fame, and the nba.
2. Developing 4 year players ok. How about josh harrelson who got drafted while plumber continues to develop. Derek wills another 4 yr guy who could very well be drafted next year. Alex poythress was pretty damn good before his knee injury but graduated in 3 years for being an athletic ape. Sometimes you get guys that could of went to Harvard for free like Brandon knight because they are so damn smart. Point is you have a small window to make your money and some guys leave early.
3. This isn't 1995 anymore where Garnett being the 2nd player to jump to the nba. The come to duke and be set for life pitch is bs unless you're aspiring to be an ESPN analyst. How much money you think duke will send thorton and his family since he supposed to be set for life? Kids today want the fastest and best way to reach their dreams. Which include fortune, fame, and the nba.
First of all, the guy you're replying to is an idiot. But so are you. You're not smart enough to have this conversation so just give up and leave. Thanks.
I try to respect everyone here. We disagree because we have a rivalry, so I enjoy the talk. I know being a uk fan I'm automatically an enemy, but calling players athletic apes is just ignorant. I think most would agree here
1. Duke has more titles in the modern era of college basketball. Post-shaving scandals, post-integration, post-freshmen eligibility, post-64 team field. Duke has 5, UK has 4 in that period.
2. Back to the subject at hand, Duke's recruiting class on paper is one of the greatest of all time, better than the Fab Five of Michigan. It's on par with the recruiting class of Battier, Brand, Burgess and Avery. But we'll see in time...
3. We have the best coach in college basketball, and instead of 6 players he's going to have 10-12 players for depth. He will move the chess pieces as they are supposed to go, and we will have an amazing season.
4. It is not NCAA title or bust. Only one team can win, and the most talented team does not always win. See any Kentucky team for reference...
2. Back to the subject at hand, Duke's recruiting class on paper is one of the greatest of all time, better than the Fab Five of Michigan. It's on par with the recruiting class of Battier, Brand, Burgess and Avery. But we'll see in time...
3. We have the best coach in college basketball, and instead of 6 players he's going to have 10-12 players for depth. He will move the chess pieces as they are supposed to go, and we will have an amazing season.
4. It is not NCAA title or bust. Only one team can win, and the most talented team does not always win. See any Kentucky team for reference...
40-0 talk was before 2015. But I don't really care about that. I wish people had enough sense to understand the set for life idea. If you think that it means just by committing to Duke you will be set for life, you're the idiot not Krzyzewski. There hasn't been one player that was handed anything without earning it. And finally, just shut up about Thornton. You Kentucky people want to use his situation to mock Krzyzewski's pitch, but that's no real surprise seeing how you can't even comprehend his pitch.
This is where you're just inventing reality. "Set for life" came from a recruit's mouth. Also, you have chosen to interpret that as meaning K promises high school kids a lifetime of earnings no matter what happens. See the problem?
Btw, I don't mind your postings here. You have been pretty chill, considering. I hope you stop in now and again.
A degree from Duke looks great on a resume. But not all basketball players graduate. We just have more guys graduate, whether on time or later, than just about anybody. So get over it.
I'm (also) proud to know that I was alive for all UK NCAA wins and NIT wins.
Just for the record. UK's NIT win in '46 is in addition to the 8 NCAA titles , not a part of them. As you stated the NIT was considered a better tourney back then. As UK had at least 3 players guilty of point shaving, they missed out on an opportunity for more titles............................. (explain to me how you championships were won by point shavings.........actually games were lost due to the act)..................
I'm not in the debate of who has the best rated recruiting class each year or the best team at the end of the year or best of modern era........We can all read the results and decide for ourselves.
The point shaving scandal was discovered in 1951, but had ultimately been goin on since 1947. I know UK took a big hit in the 1952-53 season, but what I was trying to say is how did those championships won in the late 40's count because that was when the point shaving was taking place.
Denver: Screw all this basketball nonsense. Kentucky makes the best bourbon. Not even the most die hard Dukie can argue with that. As a matter of fact, I think it's time for one.
OFC
One player that hasn't earned it? Does lance Thomas and his jewelry get a pass?
Guys just don't see Kentucky being that good, one decent big guy, when Bam gets in to foul trouble who takes his spot. The 3 spot for them is a joke Briscoe is not a 3 man, Willis is to slow, same thing with Gab. They will be a solid team, hope and pray Duke plays them so we can destroy them lol
Oh good god. Just stop. He earned the money that he used to pay off the LOAN from a private business. Right? What does that have to do with the set for life deal anyways?
If anyone was debating whether or not you are an idiot who has no idea what he is talking about, I think you just settled that for them.
A lot of "if's". After Fr year of Skal and to a lesser extent Briscoe, I'm not so sure anymore.
Our year depends on many Frs having excellent years together, plus Briscoe learning to shoot and Willis having a good year.
I saw all the championship teams but the 2015 team in person. I so hate we did not make a game that year. Too many irons in the fire.
I doubt you'll get many more passes as your constant drift toward total asshat is almost complete.
What have I done to be in trouble? I'm giving my opinion. And stating some facts
You're on a Duke board and you're teetering. That's all you need to be concerned about. Get back to meaningful debate and cut the crap.
Do you know what 'fact' means? Just curious.
Not just that, but we criticize thr for their dumbass moderating, why ban someone for simply being a fan of another team? Unless he becomes a huge troll or disrespectful, he should be able to entertain us.