Dad, nobody would say that your situation didn't suck. But the guy doesn't have to prove his innocence in our system. Nobody does. Yes, reputations can be erroneously hurt. That is true in any kind of case. But that cant be a reason for not pursuing justice. What we need is for our systems and the people in them to work as they are supposed to.
Duke dragged into the Virginia Lt Gov scandal
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The damn lax case.
One of the few good things to come of that entire affair may be how things changed afterwards in several ways to help all involved, in terms of investigations and assumptions, and also in monitoring of student behavior and excess. ****** price to pay for that lesson... that entire thing kicked me in my Duke guts.
**** man, that just sucks. I can’t imagine wtf would go through someone’s head, to invent that. Insane.
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Right!!!! ***** was looney tunes. I lost my girlfriend over it and the crazy thing was the things she said which I found out later, were things that supposedly happened when my girlfriend and I were at church together or out on a date. Still, people believed her. The Duke Lax case is a prime exapmle. I talked to a few buddies that were Durham PD who said she’d been around the block a few times and all her stories were always BS. She found someone as dumb as her to take the case.
Paging Mike Nifong. Mike Nifong....you have a call on line one.
I think the woman was bipolar (there are varying degrees of it) or some other mental disorder so she may well of believed what she said even though untrue. Mental illness is not that uncommon. I lived with a bipolar woman for 20 years and MY GOD was she a handful.
He's chomping at the bits. Nothing that slime ball would like better that to see a Dukie get in trouble. As far as nifong goes is what it really boils down to is he's a tar heel fan. He can't help it. It's his nature. The Duke LX case that he withheld was because he was a tar heel fan. He wanted to see Duke athletes go down. If it had happened in chapel hill involving the unc cheater u lx team and instead of being the assistant D.A. in Durham County and instead was the assistant D.A. in Orange County he would have nipped it in the bud. Many lives were changed for the worse because of the negative ambitions of this man and all he got was one measley day in jail. When you want to know the definition of a slime lawyer look at nifong. OFC
Wow. It's real important that the truth comes out in this. This is a serious matter. 20 years is a long time. I hope he has a good attorney. This is not good. If he is indeed the person who raped the accuser then he needs to pay the price. I don't care if he is a Dukie. Let's all hope it's not true . OFC
It comes down to whether a DA is willing to prosecute. If a DA feels they can't win (and a case that is decades old is fighting an uphill battle), then nothing probably will happen. Just depends on the DA, the county, or state. FTB can probably give more info.
OFC
The damage is already done even if he is not guilty.
Its so far fetched even THR can’t jump on it. The entire principle is so Fd
Outside of all the real issues here- a small Duke Bball thing is this will only get louder as the games get bigger. Nobody is better at keeping the boys locked in then Duke!!
Go Duke
Outside of all the real issues here- a small Duke Bball thing is this will only get louder as the games get bigger. Nobody is better at keeping the boys locked in then Duke!!
Go Duke
If Corey did do this, then he should be prosecuted and punished. We’re all equal in the eyes of the law and he should not be treated any differently because of his money, fame, or affiliations.
If it’s really just a he said, she said case (absolutely no physical evidence), then it will be more difficult, but not impossible, to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Witness testimony can be very compelling. Especially in sexual assault cases. Jury selection would also be a big part of it. Probably the biggest part.
If the DA doesn’t charge it, that doesn’t mean he or she doesn’t believe the victim or think that Corey is guilty. Many cases don’t get charged because, while the prosecutor believes the defendant is guilty, they can’t prove it in court. Many cases also don’t get charged because the prosecutor believes someone is innocent. We’ll probably never know unless he’s charged and this goes to trial.
This is very disappointing if true and justice must be done! If it’s false, then like another poster said, the damage is done, which is also a shame.
I would like to say if there is evidence he did NOT do it (like an email by the accuser to someone saying it was consensual but he treated her poorly) then she should be prosecuted. Just a few false accusations out of many cases can cause damage to real victims of rape.
Not saying the player did or didn’t, have to wait until everything is proven or disproven but I know two rape victims to took years to come forward. One did like this girl and went to the school AD because it was a football player who was bound for a top 5 pick in he NFL and he swept it under the rug so it discouraged her from contributing to go forward. The other person was scared about what others would say and she felt it was her fault because she kissed him.
Many men make it hard to come forward due to not being believed or threats to hurt the woman’s career if the man has some power. Women are coming forward more now because they feel safer and feel people will finally believe them.
The worse of course are fans of a athlete who will automatically believe a player and think the girl is lying based solely on fandom even though the fan knows nothing about the player off the court. The blind loyalty is sickening when it does happen
Many men make it hard to come forward due to not being believed or threats to hurt the woman’s career if the man has some power. Women are coming forward more now because they feel safer and feel people will finally believe them.
The worse of course are fans of a athlete who will automatically believe a player and think the girl is lying based solely on fandom even though the fan knows nothing about the player off the court. The blind loyalty is sickening when it does happen
Oh ****. This makes me very sad, in the likely case that the girl was raped, that it involves a place I love so much, that it involves a player I cheered for, if it DIDNT happen, for what the whole thing will do, regardless of outcome, to my school... just sad on every level.
Go Duke.
Go Duke.
Oh, and any Duke fan who doesn’t read DBR is missing some good stuff. Al Featherston was a loss, but there are a lot of good writers there, folks with their pulse on the team and program. Good forum, too; mature and bright, like a neighborhood pub. Not ideal for the gun-slinging internet warrior, but a good forum. Hey, if Shane Battier and Jay Bilas and JWill post there, it can’t be that bad!
Research shows that there is a very low occurance of false claims... between two and seven percent. Given the situation in which this came up (a man accused of several assaults was the one who even brought up this story to the public; there is no indication that the woman involved had any plans to ever reveal this... in fact, she didn’t... several people she told back in college revealed it)...it doesn’t seem particularly like some sort of false claim made for extortion or more attention... and add in what I know of the culture of sports and Duke and the life of an athlete and partying and schools... well, it’s likely to be true, as much as it sucks to say it. Of course, might not have happened.
Big believer in Occums Razor. In my life experiences, it often proves to be true.
Ehh maybe but it seems like odd timing and a pile on of the VA LTGov to me IMO. But it could be true and if so I hope they get everything they deserve
No blind loyalty here. If Corey did this, then he deserves a severe punishment, but if he did not, it’s ashame his reputation is ruined over a false claim.
It makes no sense to me... why would a Democrat (both accusers are Democrats) be creating this? How would getting a Duke player involved help with anything against the Lt Gov? And the timing doesn’t seem particularly odd, except that it was the MAN who made this known. She didn’t. I just don’t get how there would be some conspiracy here, you know?
Really, to be clear, in case people aren’t following this case...
The woman involved was not the one to reveal the rape by an unknown player to the public. She only confirmed what this Va Lt Gov revealed, and only through a lawyer.
The woman involved has not named anyone. Two people she told twenty years ago made it public. I don’t think she has made any statement about it.
Without evidence or actual witnesses, then it is a case of he said she said. That is the reality and I am not a fan of just believing someone because they said X or Y or Z happened. Due process should always prevail
BTW, you wanna know how sick society is.... Go look at the wikipedia page RIGHT NOW for Corey Maggette. Read what someone posted about the alleged rape. Garbage..... It says:
In 1999, Maggette raped a fellow Duke student. However, due to his prominent status, Duke University chose not to pursue the issue, as it could affect the basketball team.
Sick jerks just don't care about due process. True or not, no one should be convicted without actual evidence.
In 1999, Maggette raped a fellow Duke student. However, due to his prominent status, Duke University chose not to pursue the issue, as it could affect the basketball team.
Sick jerks just don't care about due process. True or not, no one should be convicted without actual evidence.
Of course not. I wasn’t judging anyone... acknowledging that it is likely isn’t meant as a judgement. I just said that it is likely true. I also said it might not be true and that would be sad, too.
Call me sexiest but it’s just hard to believe 20 years after the fact
Two things I know...
1) We have learned that it’s best not to speculate who knew what...when they knew...and if it even happened.....it’s best to just sit back and let investigations happen before forming an opinion....we will get answers over time....
2) You can be damn sure they will try to make this a witch hunt after Coach K.....they will try to turn this into a Paterno like situation....no doubt about it.....
I choose to look at the Suilomon situation myself....if Coach K knew something I tend to believe he would of handled it much like he did in that situation.....it’s just my belief unless something comes out substantial proving otherwise.....and at this point that doesn’t exist.....
1) We have learned that it’s best not to speculate who knew what...when they knew...and if it even happened.....it’s best to just sit back and let investigations happen before forming an opinion....we will get answers over time....
2) You can be damn sure they will try to make this a witch hunt after Coach K.....they will try to turn this into a Paterno like situation....no doubt about it.....
I choose to look at the Suilomon situation myself....if Coach K knew something I tend to believe he would of handled it much like he did in that situation.....it’s just my belief unless something comes out substantial proving otherwise.....and at this point that doesn’t exist.....