I don’t think the guy did it on purpose. Zion sort of fumbled the ball which made the guy look down and lose track of his own reaching hands. It is really hard to tell, so I’ll just assume it was clumsy. Worst case he pulled a Henderson: “I know there’s going to be contact on this play so I’m going to make it count.” I don’t think he was jsbbing at the eye specifically like a ninja.
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That's pretty damn cool.
And I don't think for a second that FSU player tried injuring Zion. That's paranoid thinking.
Small thing that I haven’t seen posted, but has probably been mentioned, Tre made a great pass to Cam with that huge guy up in his grill on the inbounds. I was somewhat concerned about not having a timeout there but knowing the ball is in Tres hands is comforting.
You guys know when every now and then we start a thread about great shots and buzzer beaters. Well we saw one today we will talk about for years.
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I said the same thing on another board. I watched the replay five times in a row and I swear it looks deliberate
Sounds like a topic for the podcast sky!
Not only that but jack’s effort to rebound RJ’s missed free throw is the only reason we get the ball back at all.
Sounds like a good thread topic too......been a lot of Duke buzzer beater wins!!!
Sounds like a good podcast debate. Label me "paranoid" then. I would say its deliberate..
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We will see how @dukehokie feels but I’m with DJ on this one, don’t think it was in anyway intentional.
Deep down, I don't think it was intentional, but man, this pic makes it debatable
Deep down, I don't think it was intentional, but man, this pic makes it debatable
PLENTY PUNDITS, Fans, etc on social media think it was intentional...
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I really don't think it was on purpose, but if he did want to do it, he couldn't have done much better than he did
At the other angles, I couldn’t tell. I just thought it was a play on the ball. But this makes me not so sure on it being innocent.
My eyes see the FSU guy digging in.
Deep down, I don't think it was intentional, but man, this pic makes it debatable
You can do a lot with still shots. Watching it in real time leaves little doubt, IMO.
The picture is very incriminating......hard to say for sure....I'm gonna go watch the play in slomo again and see what I think.....I HOPE it makes me say no, not intended
The 'still' does look bad, but I watched the replay again, and it happened so quickly I don't think the FSU player could have intentionally aimed at the eyes and dug in his fingers. That would have been some otherworldly ultra super duper reflexes to pull that off.
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They say a picture is worth a thousand words but pictures can also be deceiving. Like others, I don’t think it was intentional
I think watching in slow motion or using a still picture will make anyone lean to intentional. If you watch in real time, it’s almost impossible to be that deliberate (meaning the FSU player). This isn’t someone kicking a leg out, throwing an elbow or locking an arm. I just don’t see the intent. The still pic doesn’t look good, but you can take 100 still pics from every game and make them look bad. IMO, this was an FSU player trying to make a play and unfortunately poking someone in the eye.
Ok.....look at where the ball is before the contact.....I'm gonna say that guy couldn't see where his hand even was. I don't think it's intentional
Doesn’t bother me, I’ll still say this what the hell was the ref looking (not looking at) there??Awww T, lighten up...friendly fire....
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You said it better than me OAD. I just don’t see it, either.
And that’s the thing....Zion was fouled by two guys on the play. But, nothing.
Just remember the Heel fans rode us pretty hard about Gerald's elbow.
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Now that's what is hard to believe...how anyone could miss a foul like that.
I guess that's one of the reasons why true road games are hard to win.
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I watched the replay five more times.
Right before he gets Zion in the eye, watch how the defender flicks his wrist. Then pokes.
I don 't have a window into the guy's soul, so in the absence of other information I have no way of knowing if it was deliberate/intentional... but it sure as hell looks that way the more I see the replay.
If it had been our defender, there would be calls for a congressional investigation.
Now that's what is hard to believe...how anyone could miss a foul like that.
I guess that's one of the reasons why true road games are hard to win.
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True Dirt. Also I get what you're saying about Gerald and the elbow too. However G did call Hansbrough, apologized and that was the honorable thing to do, intentional or not. I think it would be a nice gesture if the FSU player reached out to the Z man....
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Oh yeah, I agree, Hart. It would be nice if he talked or texted Zion and let him know he was sorry. And maybe he will. But some guys would never do that thinking it shows weakness.
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No. I like ODD and he’s an honest man with morals and ethics. People like him have no place in politics.