Duke VS UK

[jchammock]

There are more than a few NCAA players that can dominate grown-*** men at the PanAm games and stil aren't AA quality....

40-oh snap

I know you're defending you're team and board and don't blame you. I know I would.

I really don't know who's going to win. It wouldn't surprise me if Duke does. In the big scheme of things it really doesn't matter besides bragging rights. Both of us will look better come March. That's when it matters.

In my opinion, both Duke and UK have great upside in which I really wouldn't have a idea who wins.

Unlike most people, I think Murray is our best player. Ulis is my favorite though But Murray is the kid Duke needs to worry about the most. In my opinion. The kid is super athletic that is a shooter. He's also ambidextrous. He can shoot equally from either side. I can't remember if we have ever had a player like that. I really can't remember a player like that.

I really think Murray is going to be the surprise player this year. Not just at UK. That's how strongly I feel about him. I think he'll go top 5 in the draft. But, I could be completely wrong. But I think Murray is more of a threat than Skal. And I love that kid. I just think Skal is to raw this early in the season when it comes to playing a team like Duke. Don't get me wrong, I hope Skal dominates

I just think if UK wins, Murray is the difference.

 

[pisgah101]

Skal won't dominate IMO and with Matt jones on Murray I think he'll keep him from blowing up.. Grayson on the other hand UK literally have nobody that can check him so I think that should give us the ultimate edge

 

[pisgah101]

According to the UK board out cupcakes are more cupcakes then the teams they have to play. (That's actually what they are saying lol many of them) therefore they will be more prepared to beat us hahahaha

 

[twdukefan]

According to the UK board out cupcakes are more cupcakes then the teams they have to play. (That's actually what they are saying lol many of them) therefore they will be more prepared to beat us hahahaha

Can't help stupid...

 

[wall2rondo]

First off here is to an injury fre game and season for,both teams.....

Do you think the new rules will help either school positive or negative?

I think this game is ugly till half. A bunch of new faces for both under the lights . Who handles it the best wins

We have a ways to go defensively. We are guard heavy in every aspect of the game We have one of the best floor generals in the game with two scoring oriented pGs to boot. If it's a tricky tack game, I think we pull out the close win. If we don't come out shooting well I think Duke will win. Should be a good game to start the season but doesn't have much on what I think will be a long crazy season

 

[pisgah101]

Honestly after two games for both teams I like our chances even better than before the season.. Ready to drop UK that's all I know

 

[DukeDenver]

If we're shooting well, we'll win by 6-10.

 

[wall2rondo]

Honestly after two games for both teams I like our chances even better than before the season.. Ready to drop UK that's all I know

Not trying to be contrary. But I'm actually the opposite. I gave Duke the win till the two,games for each. Now I give us the slight edge especially after seeing how they are going to call the games

 

[dukehokie]

UK's upper class men are good. Amile on Skal and Matt on Jamaal dictates what happens. If they play good college D on those two then Poythress has to have a great game, which he could because we don't have a lot of options to contain him.

This may not be an option though if we go primarily zone. The bigs will have to hold position better. L'Ville's zone has been hit or miss in the past against UK so it'll be interesting to see how K leans.

 

[wall2rondo]

UK's upper class men are good. Amile on Skal and Matt on Jamaal dictates what happens. If they play good college D on those two then Poythress has to have a great game, which he could because we don't have a lot of options to contain him.

This may not be an option though if we go primarily zone. The bigs will have to hold position better. L'Ville's zone has been hit or miss in the past against UK so it'll be interesting to see how K leans.

I agree with Poythress. Thing is. Willis has came on strong and stole some of Poythress minutes. 6'9 guy that's versatile on both ends. Willis is a junior too. He has been the bright spot so,far. He would start for 90% of div one teams. He is Wiltjer with defense

 

[wall2rondo]

Im just glad it's basketball season.

I like seeing Kentucky Duke Kansas *unc in top five. Most years you would think CBB is.top heavy but I don't see all of us always staying there. Honestly I think we are both ranked too high. Unc didn't really add anyone but got most everyone back. I think their three point shooting will be their Achilles heel( no pun). Well yeah it is

 

[pisgah101]

Not trying to be contrary. But I'm actually the opposite. I gave Duke the win till the two,games for each. Now I give us the slight edge especially after seeing how they are going to call the games

To each there own but UK hasn't shown me much of nothing really but I know for a fact Amile and Matt jones can check your best two players and you have nobody that can guard Grayson so that's why I'm optimistic.

 

[ChapelTower]

And Coach K is 5-1 against Kentucky with the one loss coming in 1998. That game still bugs me because Duke was the better team! I firmly believe if Duke won that game, they would have won the national championship that year!!

It was the giving up 17 pts lead collapse that really bothers me. I remember the total collapse on D. But were we also playing stall ball on O? Never liked the idea of putting up a bad shot in exchange of burning extra 5 seconds.

I think UNC that year maybe was a bit better than us. But if we had made to FF, we would have faced Utah and probably won the whole thing.

 

[DukeRulesBasketball]

It was the giving up 17 pts lead collapse that really bothers me. I remember the total collapse on D. But were we also playing stall ball on O? Never liked the idea of putting up a bad shot in exchange of burning extra 5 seconds.

I think UNC that year maybe was a bit better than us. But if we had made to FF, we would have faced Utah and probably won the whole thing.

Yes exactly, we would have played Stanford then Utah and prolly have won.

 

[tarh33ls]

Watch out guys:

"Skal is the best scoring big man in the country and may even be the best big man on offense that Cal has had since Camby.

Is there anyone that can really guard him in college? His jump shot is unguardable, he is so skilled."

You guys don't have a chance. From 7 points against Albany to the most unguardable player in the world. I know we have our natural rivalry but any time either of our teams play UK you almost question who to root against....

Injury free game to both teams, hope it's an entertaining one.

 

[hpnole]

Can't help stupid...

Doubt the cupcakes. Let's talk about conference play. Who does the SEC have that compares with the tarholes and UVA? Doubt they have anybody as good as several other ACC teams-NCSt, and FSU come to mind. There may be more. Other than UK and UF who is ever any good in the SEC in BB? No way KY would have gone through this conference last year undefeated. Oh, and I forgot about ND. How did the Tarholes get off the KY schedule for the next couple of years? Good year not to have to play them, cats. They probably would have kicked your butts this year.

 

[JohnKBA]

I'd anticipate a good game. Hopefully no injuries and a good hard fought tilt. I haven't seen a line on it but anything between either team favored by 2-3 points would make sense. I don't see a blowout either way.

 

[kyblue22]

Duke will win and probably win rather easily. Kentucky is being overrated and Duke underrated.

 

[KyFord]

Watch out guys:

"Skal is the best scoring big man in the country and may even be the best big man on offense that Cal has had since Camby.

Is there anyone that can really guard him in college? His jump shot is unguardable, he is so skilled."

You guys don't have a chance. From 7 points against Albany to the most unguardable player in the world. I know we have our natural rivalry but any time either of our teams play UK you almost question who to root against....

Injury free game to both teams, hope it's an entertaining one.

Since you are quoting my thread, it was asking people who can guard a 6'11" guy that makes turnaround jumpers and sky hooks, he is a very skilled player. How do you guard that?

Maybe you're right, he is only the projected #2 pick in the draft because he has a cool last name.

You also failed to mention his 26 points on 10/12 shooting last night.

 

[HuffyJB]

Duke has played twice, and had two decidedly different shooting performances. If they shoot like they did yesterday, I feel really good about the game. Duke's two best defenders are both upperclassmen and they will be guarding what seems to be UK's two best players, so I think that is a good thing for Duke.

Should be a good one.

 

[gottagonow]

You guys that think we will win easily just because we are Duke could be in for a big disappointment as could the UK fans with like thinking. Certainly we are very capable of winning if we play a good game but so is UK. Kentucky is ranked one or two for a reason, the players they had coming back and excellent recruits that are supposed to be good perimeter shooters. This game has nothing to do with them being in the SEC or us playing UNC or Virginia. Of course I hope we win but know we need to play well but at this point in the season either team is capable of playing well or not. Both teams have really good players so the team that hits the 3 ball and hits their free throws and keeps turnovers down will likely win. I hope it is us.

 

[pisgah101]

Amile shuts down Skal wait and see

 

[pharm727]

I Think Skal will have his way with Amile, Skal is a unique big man who has one of the best jump shots I've seen from anyone 6'11. UK 78-73!

 

[crazyqx83_rivals88013]

I see 2 evenly matched teams. Duke seems more guard dependent than UK.

Poythress and Lee probably won't play at same time. Maybe for short stretches.

Does Ingram play much 4? I'm think Briscoe and Poythress share that assignment. Throw different defensive looks at him.

I've been very skeptical about allen's ability at this level. I went back and looked at his production for last season before this season started. Up until the Wisconsin hame, he produced very few good games against above average teams (and Wisconsin was certainly not above average defensively). Will be interested to see how he fairs against a decent defensive team.

 

[pharm727]

Unless Allen gets hot from outside he'll have a tough time against UK's rim protectors.

 

[pisgah101]

This pharm guy

 

[twdukefan]

Doubt the cupcakes. Let's talk about conference play. Who does the SEC have that compares with the tarholes and UVA? Doubt they have anybody as good as several other ACC teams-NCSt, and FSU come to mind. There may be more. Other than UK and UF who is ever any good in the SEC in BB? No way KY would have gone through this conference last year undefeated. Oh, and I forgot about ND. How did the Tarholes get off the KY schedule for the next couple of years? Good year not to have to play them, cats. They probably would have kicked your butts this year.

One of the posters from RR said that based off the two games so far this year he's predicting a win over Duke...I didn't know that beating Sucksville U and Cupcake State meant we could predict victories over top-tier competition. Let's just watch this game unfold, which ultimately won't mean much when we're watching games in March

 

[pisgah101]

One of the posters from RR said that based off the two games so far this year he's predicting a win over Duke...I didn't know that beating Sucksville U and Cupcake State meant we could predict victories over top-tier competition. Let's just watch this game unfold, which ultimately won't mean much when we're watching games in March

But wait they have theory- the cupcakes they have played are less of cupcakes then we have played and when u factor in we scored more points then they have but the teamsnwe beat scored more so somehow in all of that it equals them being better. I hope I explained that right, I'm sure of new friends here could explain it better haha

 

[Showenuff]

I think we are being a bit to cocky due to the hangover from last season. Yes, if we had Okafor , WINSLOW , and Jones Tuesday....Kentucky would be taking an *** whipping of epic proportions. We don't. Murray IS damn good and Skal WILL cause us trouble. Our offense hasn't found that flow yet and UK will hurt us in the paint. This team, exact opposite as most here, this one is gonna take a little time before they are ready, we'll be better than Kentucky late this season rather than early.

 

[jchammock]

Watch out guys:

"Skal is the best scoring big man in the country and may even be the best big man on offense that Cal has had since Camby.

Is there anyone that can really guard him in college? His jump shot is unguardable, he is so skilled."

You guys don't have a chance. From 7 points against Albany to the most unguardable player in the world. I know we have our natural rivalry but any time either of our teams play UK you almost question who to root against....

Injury free game to both teams, hope it's an entertaining one.

Thanks for your comments, so who do you think wins?

 

[jchammock]

Doubt the cupcakes. Let's talk about conference play. Who does the SEC have that compares with the tarholes and UVA? Doubt they have anybody as good as several other ACC teams-NCSt, and FSU come to mind. There may be more. Other than UK and UF who is ever any good in the SEC in BB? No way KY would have gone through this conference last year undefeated. Oh, and I forgot about ND. How did the Tarholes get off the KY schedule for the next couple of years? Good year not to have to play them, cats. They probably would have kicked your butts this year.

Ive never understood what conference play has anything to do with anything.

When you're in the tournament, the last team standing hangs a banner. The tournament doesn't crown championships by what conference you play in. I think you actually earn the championship.

And being the SEC sucks so bad, in your mind, then UK should feel extra proud of 8 of them bad boys.

As far as the UNC/UK annual game goes, Cal and Roy put it on hold for two years because both were going to be in the same series for two years. This year, we don't meet. Next year we do meet in that series. In 2017-2018 we go back to home and home games.

And as far as UNC kicking our arses this year, that's your opinion. My opinion is if we played UNC last year we would have kicked their arse. See how that works? And if we do meet UNC this year in the tournament, we'll see how your prediction turns out.

Fair enough? I'll take UK, you take UNC. Let the best anonymous poster win.

 

[jchammock]

I think we are being a bit to cocky due to the hangover from last season. Yes, if we had Okafor , WINSLOW , and Jones Tuesday....Kentucky would be taking an *** whipping of epic proportions. We don't. Murray IS damn good and Skal WILL cause us trouble. Our offense hasn't found that flow yet and UK will hurt us in the paint. This team, exact opposite as most here, this one is gonna take a little time before they are ready, we'll be better than Kentucky late this season rather than early.

Show

I just think both of our fanbases love our team and are confident. And rightfully so because we both have a lot of talent.

I just think both of our teams are young and this is a very early game. I have no idea who will win. I just know both of us will be better in March.

Good luck buddy.

 

[pisgah101]

I think both of our teams would whoop Carolina right now

 

[dukehokie]

Thanks for your comments, so who do you think wins?

UK. I think your upper classmen and bench are a little better than ours at this moment. You know what to expect from your guys, which usually leads to early season wins. We would have to get efforts from guys who haven't proven they can give those efforts yet. They will down the road, but Tuesday might be tough.

 

[pisgah101]

What upperclassmen are better?! Poy??

 

[tarh33ls]

Since you are quoting my thread, it was asking people who can guard a 6'11" guy that makes turnaround jumpers and sky hooks, he is a very skilled player. How do you guard that?

Maybe you're right, he is only the projected #2 pick in the draft because he has a cool last name.

You also failed to mention his 26 points on 10/12 shooting l

You called him the best scoring big man in the nation and the best Cal has had on O since Camby. Boogie was far better inside on O and you're calling him the best scoring big man in the nation based on a 7 point performance against Albany and a very good game against NJIT. He will be a top 3 pick for sure, I didn't say he sucked, I just don't see how you can proclaim that he is the best scoring big man in the nation after two games against two horrendous teams.

He lacks strength, K isn't an idiot, he will exploit that. Plum would likely cause troubles for Skal down low or he could send a double and see if Skal can pass out of the post well. You make him sound like Kareem because he scored a few jumpers and sky hooks. If he puts those up on Duke you might have a point, until then his 10/12 night against Sisters of the Poor doesn't mean all that much. If he takes it out to the perimeter I don't know what K will do, Amile is more mobile than Plum so he could follow him out there, with Ingram as well, Duke is a long team.

You even called him unguardable. I think K has probably coached against a few 6'11 guys who could hit jumpers. UK could very well win but your hyperbole concerning Skal after two cupcakes is insane.

 

[skysdad]

Whose Gary-7 got? OFC

 

[pisgah101]

Whose Gary-7 got? OFC

Prob say..... "Well I'll just say this I have it on good authority from my mafia friend he was at an AAU event with a guy that's cousins wife's sister in married to a guy who's 3rd cousin is the secretary at the building across the street from NCAA headquarters in Indy and she eats lunch at the same place the secretary of the head of the NCAA eats and she overheard her telling someone on the phone that the NCAA might just make it the first time both teams get an L...... if you guys catch my drift........ I'm not saying it's going to happen but it may just happen "

 

[stewd]

That was spot on... freaking hilarious.

 

[KyFord]

You called him the best scoring big man in the nation and the best Cal has had on O since Camby. Boogie was far better inside on O and you're calling him the best scoring big man in the nation based on a 7 point performance against Albany and a very good game against NJIT. He will be a top 3 pick for sure, I didn't say he sucked, I just don't see how you can proclaim that he is the best scoring big man in the nation after two games against two horrendous teams.

He lacks strength, K isn't an idiot, he will exploit that. Plum would likely cause troubles for Skal down low or he could send a double and see if Skal can pass out of the post well. You make him sound like Kareem because he scored a few jumpers and sky hooks. If he puts those up on Duke you might have a point, until then his 10/12 night against Sisters of the Poor doesn't mean all that much. If he takes it out to the perimeter I don't know what K will do, Amile is more mobile than Plum so he could follow him out there, with Ingram as well, Duke is a long team.

You even called him unguardable. I think K has probably coached against a few 6'11 guys who could hit jumpers. UK could very well win but your hyperbole concerning Skal after two cupcakes is insane.

I said his jump shot is unguardable, you literally are not going to be able to do anything about a guy that size draining fadeaway jump shots.

Yes he needs to get stronger and can be pushed around in the paint but he isn't one dimensional like most big guys in college basketball.

NJIT and Albany were both NCAA Tournament teams last year, yeah they are mid majors but they are not as bad as you make them out to be.

My point was that some of the shots that Skal has the ability to make are not able to be stopped, sorry but that's why he is a top 3 pick bro.