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urethrafranklin

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I'm just going to reply here cause it's the last one.<div>
</div><div>You do realize pretty much all football uniforms are based one say.... 5 designs? LSU and USCal have pretty much the same design, along with ole miss, and UCLA, which isn't that different from the Colts design. The Broncos got some pretty original threads when Nike redesigned them in the late 90's, and the Miami hurricanes evolved into their own in the early 2000's. Yeah, there are a few seeming black sheep out there, but they're all pretty similar. Personally, I kinda like the new design, the JWS jersey's in the 90's were phenomenal, but they aren't ours -- never were. At least these are clean now, instead of having random lines and curves everywhere, we have stripes, and logos, which is how a uniform should look.</div><div>
</div><div>The main thing that sets schools apart is the visual identity -- ours has never been strong. We have to make it strong going forward, and the identity has little to do with adidas. Furthermore, whether or not we're getting a good deal isn't for you to decide, or concern yourself with for that matter. If you think we're getting screwed, that's on Stricklin, not Adidas. But I would imagine there's a reason we're with them and not someone else. Congratulations, you've literally found the dumbest thing in the world to complain about.</div>
 

CadaverDawg

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Yet, Adidas made our uniforms look just like a&M's, same colors and everything. How can you say Adidas has nothing to do with that? Yea, LSU and USC have a similar style...but you're ignoring the part about them having different colors, and playing in different divisions of different conferences.
Basically, your whole post said nothing.
 

urethrafranklin

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Adidas did not pick our school colors, and there are numerous, subtle differences. Would you have rathered adidas given us hideous uniforms just so they would be different? Also, we have silver in our uniforms, something we will use to differentiate ourselves more from them. ole miss and LSU play in the same division of the same conference, they have very similar uniforms except for the colors. Adidas had little control over that, and they changed it as much as they could. (i also didn't ignore USC and UCLA, who are cross town rivals having similar uniforms). Like I said, it comes down to color and identity -- we only have identity to differentiate ourselves from A&M.
 

esplanade91

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The dumbest thing to complain about? I shouldn't be mad or concern myself with the fact that a company is screwing us over and our organization is obviously very bad at negotiating a contract? And said company has a right to sell their product exclusively through our stores? You don't see how that effects you or me or anyone who is a fan of the school and/or buys our merchandise?

Of course I say "our", assuming you went/go to MSU. I pay good money to go to MSU, so I very much have everything to do with having a terrible contract with a provider.

There is probably a reason we're with Adidas, but I assure you that has more to do with our administration's laziness and familiarity with individuals in the Adidas organization. If anything, Nike would match the crap deal we're receiving now, but I assure you that wouldn't be the case.

It's not even the fact I want Nike. I would be in full support of any company that would come forward that would provide us with a financially adequate deal WHILE keeping in mind that Texas A&M is a division rival with familiar uniforms, and that they have to do something to distinguish us from them.

Do I prefer these jerseys to the ones we wore in 2011? Yes. If we took a poll I bet a majority of the people on here would say they like these better. That's not the issue. The issue is we're paying 1/2 mil a year out of pocket for this stuff and they spend 30 minutes putting together a Texas A&M knockoff jersey for us, while the worst team in our conference is getting $7 mil to wear Nike.
 

esplanade91

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If you take out the shoulder stripes, they're entirely different jerseys and NO ONE on this board would be complaining. We have the same colors, everyone gets that, but why do we need stripes? Give A&M stripes, leave the shoulder stripes off our jerseys. BOOM! Problem solved. Some moron at Adidas didn't see that to be an issue.
 

CadaverDawg

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You want to say things like "subtle differences" between ours and A&M's....and "except for the colors", when comparing Ole Miss to LSU.....those are pretty big statements to just brush aside when that's the whole point of the argument. We have the same colors, same division, same conference, and very very similar uniforms to A&M....and that isn't right. Adidas didn't pick our colors, but they knew what they were. And did I want them to design us an ugly uniform to differentiate? Of course not, but Something a little different would be nice.
 

Rebels7

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They were lightweight vests that went under your shoulder pads that you could hook up to a valve to run ice water through to cool you off. That's how I remember it, anyway.
 

urethrafranklin

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1. You're paying $5 a game, none of your tuition money goes to buying uniforms (the athletic budget comes from ticket sales and booster donations).<div>
</div><div>2. we do get money from adidas in exchange for the jerseys, not the other way around.</div><div>
</div><div>3. Have you been to the bookstore on campus? you can buy products from all kinds of apparel providers, including under armor and nike.</div><div>
</div><div>4. If you're going to "assure" me of something, tell me or don't bring it up at all. if there is a buddy deal happening, nail em to the wall on a conflict of interest.</div><div>
</div><div>5. Are they similar, yes. But they're also good. That's a good design. I'd rather look good 12 games a year if it means we also get to look kinda like someone 1 game a year. Also, there is a legitimate design aspect to it -- to invoke the banner motif on the jerseys, a subtle and consistent nod.</div>
 

patdog

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I'm sure their receivers needed to cool off after all the 80-yard sprints they ran that day. Although the did usually just coast for the last 25 yards.
 

esplanade91

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I also don't think LSU and UM having similiar jerseys is as much of a coincidence as the fact that they both use Nike. They've always had the same style uniforms. Look across the country, all the traditional schools have very simliar jerseys, with 3 stripes on the sleeves and such. That's their tradition. I think there was a guy on here earlier from Ole Miss saying he preferred their Russell jerseys, but they look essentially the same.

Unfortunately we are not a traditional school. Unlike Alabama, LSU, and Ole Miss we've had dozens of jerseys. This will be our 4th in 10 years. Because we don't require a specific design on our jersey, a la stripes similar to what Ole Miss, LSU, and USC wear, there's zero reason for whoever designed our jersey to be like "Hey, lets add a shoulder stripe..." Texas A&M has shoulder stripes, but they're linking it to their 1970's jerseys. They were a national contender year in and year out in the 1970's...

You're right. There are about 5 different designs that everyone just uses a variation of. Adidas has several different designs they use CURRENTLY across the country. University of Tennessee has the same TechFit uni's we're using, and they're identical EXCEPT for the stripe on the shoulder. They didn't think it was a better idea to give us another one of their designs, inserting our colors and logos? Instead we had to use the same base design as a school with the same colors? To hell with "subtle" differences.

How do you not see the problem here?
 

esplanade91

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urethrafranklin said:
1. You're paying $5 a game, none of your tuition money goes to buying uniforms (the athletic budget comes from ticket sales and booster donations).<div>
</div><div>2. we do get money from adidas in exchange for the jerseys, not the other way around.</div><div>
</div><div>5. Are they similar, yes. But they're also good. That's a good design. I'd rather look good 12 games a year if it means we also get to look kinda like someone 1 game a year. Also, there is a legitimate design aspect to it -- to invoke the banner motif on the jerseys, a subtle and consistent nod.</div>
1. I pay a lot more than $5.
2.Check your facts. Strick even said we pay for our jerseys.
3. There's no reason to have a jersey thatONLY looks good 12 games out of the year.WE COULD HAVE A JERSEY THAT LOOKS GOOD YEAR ROUND, NO MATTER WHO WE'RE PLAYING!Grasp that, man.

You're settling. Which is onpar with just abouteverything MSU.
 

urethrafranklin

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If you are a student, you are only paying $5 a game, if you're paying for a seat while a student, you're an idiot. I did check my facts, I couldn't find an exact contract, cause there isn't one out there, but every reference I have heard has the cashflow going the other way, so if you could point me somewhere else, that'd be appreciated.<div>
</div><div>Yeah, I'm settling, ON UNIFORMS. Why? Because they're an improvement, and there are much more important things to whine and moan about than a damn shoulder stripe going one way instead of the other. If that's the line of fandom you are drawing then you would have made one hell of a kamikaze pilot my friend.</div>
 

TXDawg.sixpack

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1) As has been stated before, the current deal with Adidas was negotiated in 2009. No one was going to give us a "good deal" coming off the Croom Error. Yes, Byrne took a bad deal, but he didn't have much choice. Stricklin had the option to renew the contract last year or wait until it expires at the end of this year and renegotiate. He's on record stating the he chose to wait so that he could negotiate a better deal that is more representative of our current market value. Look for Adidas (or someone else) to step up to the plate next time.

2) I was in Barnes & Noble, The Lodge, and Campus Book Mart three weeks ago and I can assure that Adidas does not have an "exclusive" deal with any of these stores. There were plenty of options available from Nike, UA, Cutter & Buck, and many other clothing companies in all three stores.

3) Who cares if our uniforms are "similar" to aTm's? They're a far cry better that anything we've had in the last several years. Besides, at least we don't have beveled numbers or ugly socks.
 

was21

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it's ok...it just 17's everything else up....it indicates a definite lack of style and it sucks.
 

RocketDawg

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The humidity affects our players just as much as theirs. The issue of acclimatization is way over-played. I think that those of us who live in the eastern two-thirds of the country, and especially the mid- and deep south, know that you never get used to the humidity and attendant heat index.
 

patdog

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And the issue of acclimatization is not over-played. If you're not used to the humidity and heat index in the South, it's because you're spending most of your time in air conditioned 72 degree buildings. If your outside in the heat and humidity working every day, you're going to be a hell of a lot better able to take it than someone coming in from a cooler climate.
 

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boone did. he could have pulled off a new stadium, new BB arena and a 2 billion endowment and a lot of our fans would have griped about it. our nike deal is a pretty good deal and was handled well, but since boone did it some of us just hate it.
 

Optimus Prime 4

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Oregon treated this the same. Some objected. I believe umpires wear a similar thing in MLB.

I know right now UNC has force measuring devices in every players helmet, but other teams don't. Because they are part of a huge study on brain injuries, etc going on at the school. Not the same, but still something one school has others don't. This article is from 4 years ago, I believe every player wears one now. It could be considered an advantage possibly, as mentioned at the bottom of the article.