Ed O and UT just got commitments from two 5 star players and a 4 star....
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They are going out of state to get almost every recruit. They have more commits from the state of California than they do from Tennessee. I guess that means that O and Kiffin kept their contacts out in California. We all knew they would recruit, but the fact that they are wiping up like this is not good.
If we have a good to great year, Houston might decide its time to get paid. I really wish we had put buyout clause in his second contract. At the very least something that prevents him from going to SEC west.
gtowndawg said:
that Kiffen is going to be fired becasue he is a nut who runs his mouth? That sounds a lot like Steve Spurrier- except for the nuts part. If he gets top flight talent he's going to win.
If he gets fired, it's going to be because he isn't winning. Not because he runs his trap.
This is really nothing new for UT. They've been cleaning house nationally in recruiting for years now. It's what they do. Orgeron and Kiffin will recruit well at UT, but they are far from the first to do it, and they won't be the last.
It's not like they are performing some massive talent turnaround. UT has and will always have talent, and the majority of it will be out of state. They understand they can't compete nationally with players from Tennessee alone, which is why their recruiting budget is usually about double the second highest recruiting budget in the SEC.
ETA: It was mentioned on Nafoom, but does anyone else think the timing of these commitments may be somewhat of a diversion tactic by Kiffin following a loss where his play-calling was questionable? I wouldn't be shocked if these were private commits or players who were just waiting to make the announcement. Getting 3 blue chip commits in an hour's time doesn't just happen by coincidence. The timing makes me think it's a diversion. It seems like a "forget my ugly play-calling, look at my pretty recruits" tactic.
It's not like they are performing some massive talent turnaround. UT has and will always have talent, and the majority of it will be out of state. They understand they can't compete nationally with players from Tennessee alone, which is why their recruiting budget is usually about double the second highest recruiting budget in the SEC.
ETA: It was mentioned on Nafoom, but does anyone else think the timing of these commitments may be somewhat of a diversion tactic by Kiffin following a loss where his play-calling was questionable? I wouldn't be shocked if these were private commits or players who were just waiting to make the announcement. Getting 3 blue chip commits in an hour's time doesn't just happen by coincidence. The timing makes me think it's a diversion. It seems like a "forget my ugly play-calling, look at my pretty recruits" tactic.
They win them on the recruiting trail, so who cares who wins the actual games.
UT has talent. Their defense has at least 3 NFL draft picks, maybe more. Their offensive line had all 5 starters return before McNeil got hurt, and a solid RB.
They lost to UCLA at home. The same UCLA that lost 59-0 last year to BYU.
Was I the only one who watched some of the best offensive playcalling at the goal line since Coach O's back to back delay of game penalties from the 1 yard line.
If you like recruiting, you will love Coach O and Kiffen. If you like winning football they will drive you nuts.
UT has not been short on talent, they have not thought outside the box when it comes to offensive football in several years. From watching the UCLA game, their was nothing innovative about the offensive gameplan, in fact it was Cut like.
UT has talent. Their defense has at least 3 NFL draft picks, maybe more. Their offensive line had all 5 starters return before McNeil got hurt, and a solid RB.
They lost to UCLA at home. The same UCLA that lost 59-0 last year to BYU.
Was I the only one who watched some of the best offensive playcalling at the goal line since Coach O's back to back delay of game penalties from the 1 yard line.
If you like recruiting, you will love Coach O and Kiffen. If you like winning football they will drive you nuts.
UT has not been short on talent, they have not thought outside the box when it comes to offensive football in several years. From watching the UCLA game, their was nothing innovative about the offensive gameplan, in fact it was Cut like.
Kiffin comes from the USC coaching tree. Offensively, that's a pro-style offense, and it's fairly basic. Not a lot of wrinkles. It's more centered around being able to establish the run and use play action. Offensively, I don't expect UT's play-calling to be a whole lot different than it was under Fulmer.
this year: #2 Kiffin
'09: # 8 Kiffin
'08: # 35???????? Fulmer
'07: # 4 Fulmer
'06: # 24 Fulmer.
Not bad recruiting but the 24 and 35 rankings are a killer for a top flight program. I doubt Kiffin and the Ogre ever fall out of the top ten.
'09: # 8 Kiffin
'08: # 35???????? Fulmer
'07: # 4 Fulmer
'06: # 24 Fulmer.
Not bad recruiting but the 24 and 35 rankings are a killer for a top flight program. I doubt Kiffin and the Ogre ever fall out of the top ten.
I disagree to a extent. Tenn is the premier university in the state. Vady, Memphis and Middle Tenn State are all second chair and are grabing the scraps that Tenn chooses not to recruit. The state has over 6 million people and with Tenn being the premier school they could get almost any player they wanted. However like you said, they got the budget so why not use it to go out side the state. I am fairly confident that if they chose to field a team with all Tenn players they could do it and it would be a top SEC school.RebelBruiser said:
Big D said:
I don't think you can do it with just Mississippi talent, and Mississippi produces more talent than Tennessee. If you cleaned house in the state of Tennessee, and that was all of your recruiting, you'd be a 7-5, 8-4 team perennially. There isn't enough talent in that state. It produces on average 5 NFL draft picks per year, and of course not all of those will be highly evaluated coming out of high school, so you'd probably bring in 3 or 4 NFL draft picks per class. UT can do better than that going out of state. They sign 4 or 5 players from Tennessee each year, and that's about it.