Eddie Gran and recruiting in south

canebreak

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Don't get me wrong, I think our recruiting of Ohio was long overdo. But we have had some great players from Georgia and other southern states.

I wonder if Gran can open some doors in the south since he spent 20 years or so coaching at Auburn, Ole miss and FSU? Seems like all his connections would be southern.
 

canebreak

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Interesting, the current UC recruiting class has 15 commits with only three from Ohio. Rest are from soutH and California.

Now they are two and three stars but still. It would appear that UC goes south for players.

Interesting.
 

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I believe we will see several more players from Florida in future classes. I think Florida produces a lot more quality players then Ohio.

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CatDaddy4daWin

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One of the nice side benefits to these new coaches! Think we'll start to see the Cats pull in a few more guys from Florida, especially with Mac Jones down there recruiting for us. Louisville has been doing this for years and have gotten some nice players out of there. Bout time we do the same.
 

jauk11

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Top 30 in Ohio is good but top 100 in Florida is as good.

Yes, but as I used to preach, playing in the SEC is our great attraction to Ohio recruits at UK, nearest state by far, while players from Florida couldn't find an SEC program farther away than UK before the recent expansion.

How far away from UK is Cincinnati, and how far away is Miami? Just ONE of the MANY reasons hurtt's class from Miami was so fishy.
 

John Henry

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I believe we will see several more players from Florida in future classes. I think Florida produces a lot more quality players then Ohio.

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I live in Florida and the talent down here is off the chart. The thing that jumps out is the speed of these players. As they say Speed Kills.
 

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UK didn't recruit FL post 1982 because they choose not to. I don't know whether it was a bad taste left by the recruits that Curci brought in or what. There are a lot of northern teams, WV for example that have recruited FL for years. These schools have an advantage over UK now. They have built relationships with HS coaches. They are on the second generation of players (legacy recruits) and in some instances former players from these universities are now ascending to the head coach positions at some of the high schools.

As Sawnee Cat and HMT5000 stated above there are hundreds of good recruits in FL. When you have deep and long term relationships with these coaches they will guide you too the recruits with good potential and make you aware of the ones that are potential problems.

Maybe Gran already has this type of relationship built with some of the coaches at the better programs.
 

TJS4UK

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Yes, but as I used to preach, playing in the SEC is our great attraction to Ohio recruits at UK, nearest state by far, while players from Florida couldn't find an SEC program farther away than UK before the recent expansion.

How far away from UK is Cincinnati, and how far away is Miami? Just ONE of the MANY reasons hurtt's class from Miami was so fishy.

Yes, but the speed between the 2 states, overall, is quite different. Just like the avg. overall team speed in the B1G appears to be different when compared to the avg. overall team speed of SEC teams. 2 other good examples are UL & WKU (although WKU was down to about 24 FL kids in 15)... Both have recruited a lot of FL kids in recent years & it shows.

With that said, IMHO, there is nothing wrong with bringing in several cherry picked Ohio kids each year to help fill out the roster, but to really compete in the SEC, UK is going to have to bring in a few south Florida kids each year too.
 
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dorkmeister

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Pulling in talent from FL would be great. They seem to have more speed in FL for some reason. Have no idea why but that just seems to be the case.
 

jauk11

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There is no question that UK recruiting has taken a big jump since Stoops (and Marrow) arrived, and half of the TEN four stars in the 14 class were from Ohio-----plus a total of eleven commits overall. In the 15 class the ratings fell off, but the talent didn't overall, in fact Freddie rated it better than the 14 class, and two of the best prospects in the class are AA and Conrad, both started as true freshmen and should get much better, probably neither are speed burners but not everyone can be, both great talents. In 16 we are back to eleven commits in the class from Ohio, (not done yet) plus two JCs originally from there. and while Stoops is locking up our state AND this year saw a great jump in in state talent Ohio is still furnishing the bulk of our talent. It is MUCH easier to attract talent from Kentucky AND Ohio than to try to get top talent from other SEC states, in fact until very recently NONE of the MANY recruits we got from the SEC states had an offer from Home State U, and NONE of them were four stars, Boom the first one of those.

I know Edwards is only listed as having 4.6 speed but he started a lot AND from the way he closed ground on a couple of RBs in games I think he could be the fastest player on the team, maybe not accurate, and maybe Snodgrass's 4.4 time isn't accurate either.

Transfer U had OVER half of the great 11 class from Florida, including all five of the four stars from Miami------but that was hurtt's class, and everyone should be able to figure out how he got those players away from the tradition and beaches of Miami. Of the 21 commits in their 16 class so far they have ONE 5.5 commit from Florida, and one 5.7 commit from Ohio.

You have to take talent where you can get it, and so far we aren't getting many of the top players away from the SEC states, and there are lots of reasons for that, proximity being one of the big ones.

It would be a great thing if our new coaching additions make a big change there, but we probably have to start winning more SEC games before that happens.
 
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EnPassant

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Pulling in talent from FL would be great. They seem to have more speed in FL for some reason. Have no idea why but that just seems to be the case.

There is more speed down here because there are more African Americans here and because football is big. Georgia has a larger black population than California, and since football is mostly a black sport, your ideas of "big state" have to be adjusted.
 

John Henry

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There is more speed down here because there are more African Americans here and because football is big. Georgia has a larger black population than California, and since football is mostly a black sport, your ideas of "big state" have to be adjusted.

I would imagine the Metro area of Atlanta would produce more SEC football signees than any other area. The State of Florida might give it some competition. I have lived in both areas and there is something about the State of Georgia that produces men when they turn 13. I have seen 14 and 15 year old kids who have bodies of 25 year olds. It must be the red clay or something in the water. They are also fast but Florida has speed on top of speed. My point is, there are a few recruits in both states we could use to fill up our roster. And I mean highly rated recruits.
 

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As much as it hurts to say it, three star athletes in Florida are often like four star kids from other states.
 
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Georgia, Louisiana, Florida, Ohio and Kentucky need to be prioritized. No particular order but these are the areas that produce enough for us to grab quality and quantity. Oh course we already knew this.

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Georgia, Louisiana, Florida, Ohio and Kentucky need to be prioritized. No particular order but these are the areas that produce enough for us to grab quality and quantity. Oh course we already knew this.

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Have we ever recruited Louisiana hard? I don't think we have.
 
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Have we ever recruited Louisiana hard? I don't think we have.
Louisiana is a 100% lost cause. LSU and Bama have a lock on anybody decent from there, and then the regional schools like Ole Miss, Arkansas, and Texas A&M scoop up the oddballs who don't end up at LSU or Bama. We'd be getting Tulane/Troy/ULM caliber players at best out of Louisiana. Speaking as a former New Orleans resident.
 
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There are many people who live in ohio who have deep roots in Kentucky. In every high school there are kids whose grandparents or extended family live in Kentucky. Many Ohioans go to Kentucky to boat and fish and hunt. Those relationships help recruits to feel connected to the people of Kentucky and by extension to UK.
 
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UK didn't recruit FL post 1982 because they choose not to. I don't know whether it was a bad taste left by the recruits that Curci brought in or what. There are a lot of northern teams, WV for example that have recruited FL for years. These schools have an advantage over UK now. They have built relationships with HS coaches. They are on the second generation of players (legacy recruits) and in some instances former players from these universities are now ascending to the head coach positions at some of the high schools.

As Sawnee Cat and HMT5000 stated above there are hundreds of good recruits in FL. When you have deep and long term relationships with these coaches they will guide you too the recruits with good potential and make you aware of the ones that are potential problems.

Maybe Gran already has this type of relationship built with some of the coaches at the better programs.

Florida feeds a lot of teams. UofL can't even recruit the state outside the Louisville metro area, but has hauled in enough quality talent from Florida to be relatively successful. Florida, Texas and California and the big three D1a talent producing states, but Georgia and Ohio fall in right after them. Having very strong connections in Ohio and good connections in Florida should keep the talent stream coming.
 
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florida kids aren't faster than ohio kids as a rule... there are just more fast kids in florida. 4.4 is a 4.4 no matter what state it's run in or who ran it. we aren't getting top 5 in ohio and we aren't getting top 25 in florida so we just have to get kids on campus and see where that scale slides year to year.
 

Poetax

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We've recruited Louisiana hard but with limited success.

The last time I remember getting a decent kid out of Louisiana was during Katrina when school kids were being sent to other states. Can't remember his name.
 

mrhotdice

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There are many people who live in ohio who have deep roots in Kentucky. In every high school there are kids whose grandparents or extended family live in Kentucky. Many Ohioans go to Kentucky to boat and fish and hunt. Those relationships help recruits to feel connected to the people of Kentucky and by extension to UK.
Had a cousin tell me he was going to Ohio to get a job and if he couldn't get one their he would try Dayton or Akron. Many Kentuckian in the Buckeye State working but hate OSU
 

pauled#1

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What happened to the LaGrange Ga recruiting, I remember some good players coming out of there.
 

TJS4UK

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I think our connection to there is gone...

For sure and they also haven't been churning out too many P5 players lately. A quick search revealed that a 5.5 3 star OL is currently committed to NC in the 2016 class & last year a 5.7 3 star RB committed to South Carolina. But, it looks like no LaGrange players signed with P5 schools the previous 2 years (2013 & 2014) & none are currently showing up in the 2017 class. So, at the most, we've possibly missed on MAYBE 2 in last 4 years.