Egg Bowl

[GloryDawg]

Bama probably has an average program.

Can we take out Sherril's years next and see what happens?

I guess we could have just not played UM when Vaught was the coach.

How many times did Ole Miss Play Alabama while Vaught was the coach and how many times did he beat them? I think his record is either 2 - 7 or 2-8. Somewhere in that range. I am pulling these numbers out my ***, I am too lazy to google.

Lazy isn't the same as dumb.

Vaught was 2-4 against Bama in the regular season. He was 0-1 against Bama in the Sugar Bowl.

Of those 7 games, he only played 2 home games which were in Jackson.

<span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: ' mso-fareast-font-family: ' mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; Times: "> I see why you guys live in the past so much. <br style="mso-special-character: line-break"> <br style="mso-special-character: line-break"></span>

Yeah, because you loss in Atlanta was yesterday.

<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">The last time Ole Miss won any football title was in 1964. I was not even alive and I bet if you were you were still shitting breast milk. That's why it is different. Everyone posting here remembers 1998 and many were there.
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[olemissbydamn]

Bama probably has an average program.

Can we take out Sherril's years next and see what happens?

I guess we could have just not played UM when Vaught was the coach.

How many times did Ole Miss Play Alabama while Vaught was the coach and how many times did he beat them? I think his record is either 2 - 7 or 2-8. Somewhere in that range. I am pulling these numbers out my ***, I am too lazy to google.

Lazy isn't the same as dumb.

Vaught was 2-4 against Bama in the regular season. He was 0-1 against Bama in the Sugar Bowl.

Of those 7 games, he only played 2 home games which were in Jackson.

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Yeah, because you loss in Atlanta was yesterday.

<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">The last time Ole Miss won any football title was in 1964. I was not even alive and I bet if you were you were still shitting breast milk. That's why it is different. Everyone posting here remembers 1998 and many were there.
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The freshman class at MSU this year was in first grade when that happened.

 

[ckDOG]

The point is - you aren't going to hurt any MSU fans feelings by pointing out we have a ****** past. You have to live with that if you are going to be an MSU supporter.

But, it's always fun marginalizing Ole Miss' accomplishments to the lower echelon of the SEC. Is it really something to brag about if everybody else has accomplished the same thing, and in reality, did it better than you did?

Deflating an unsubstantiated ego is always more fun than pointing out the flaws of those that are already aware of it.

 

[Keyser Soze.sixpack]

but but but.... 45-0 is the biggest lopsided egg bowl ever
guess facts don't matter

 

[Keyser Soze.sixpack]

have more wins in the series, but the series is really 41-58-6.

 

[GroveHard]

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[jacksonreb1]

doesn't make it so),,,,when did that happen. hasn't been in my lifetime and i'm old. back in the 20's, 30's or when?

 

[Roscoe.sixpack]

It wasn't the eggbowl in 1915.

 

[TR.sixpack]

nm

 

[ckDOG]

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[Todd4State]

Bama probably has an average program.

Can we take out Sherril's years next and see what happens?

Bama had success before Bear Bryant- they went to a Rose Bowl I believe. Frank Thomas was an excellent coach for them, and they have NC's as far back as the 20's. Or so they claim. Gene Stallings was also an excellent coach.

Taking out Jackie's numbers wouldn't make much of a difference- he went 7-6 against Mississippi. That would only give you a one year advantage.

 

[Todd4State]

I really wasn't trying to put anyone down, I just thought it was interesting more than anything else. I think what it points to more than anything is what you can do if you have a great coach. I was actually surprised that the numbers came out even after taking out the Vaught years. I figured Ole Miss still had a lead, but I thought it would be almost even, but it came out dead even.

You could say the same about Bear Bryant and the Iron Bowl- I think he went 9-1 against them in the 70's, and that is almost the difference in that series as well.

Even if you take out MSU's longest winning streak, that is still only a little more than half of the Vaught era. The fact of the matter is the Vaught era is a huge outlier. It's a credit to him and Ole Miss.

 

[Duane Chapman]

How about a 4-7 team beating an 8-3 team, and with the 8-3 team having beaten all of the common opponents, with the exception of Alabama and Auburn?</p>

so by "with the exception of Alabama and Auburn" you mean Arkansas and LSU.

ETA: I would consider a State win Saturday an upset (though not a huge upset). Just pointing out the typical UM spin.

 

[Fdawg.sixpack]

MSU combined trips to Atlanta, Final Fours and Omaha =10

Ole Miss=0

And just for the record I'm a very recent grad and I can remember almost everyone of those 10 so please tell me all about how great your program is but the fact is ill take those memories over anything that youve gotten to experience

 

[NewTweederEndzoneDance]

Makes sense. On a side note, Bryant was 4-3 vs. Vaught.

It is worst because you played them less. Read the whole post. My point was you guys dodge Alabama while Vaught was there.

You have said some of the stupidest things I've ever read in this thread. You're logic and reasoning skills are unparalleled today. How the hell can you come up with Ole Miss dodged Bama and The Bear when the played 7 times, 5 in Alabama and 2 in Jackson? The two guys only coached at the same time for what 12 years? So they didn't play them 5 of those years? The Bear dodged as many teams as he could in those days. He never wanted to come to MS and as a result they refused to schedule games in Oxford. If you aren't going to take the time to look and see if you actually do know what you are talking about please just shut the 17 up. I've always thought you are a dubmass, but you are taking it to new levels today.<span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;">
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It doesn't even take an Ole Miss fan to wonder why you are still posting...

 

[NewTweederEndzoneDance]

MSU combined trips to Atlanta, Final Fours and Omaha =10

Ole Miss=0

And just for the record I'm a very recent grad and I can remember almost everyone of those 10 so please tell me all about how great your program is but the fact is ill take those memories over anything that youve gotten to experience

They did go to Omaha back in the day once or twice. But your point does still stand.

 

[Fdawg.sixpack]

youre right bad research on my part but like i said i can actually remember most of our 10...and of those OM trips to Omaha im gonna go out on a limb and say that no one here can rembember a damn one of em...and obviously the modern day version of the CWS they have a goose egg

 

[RobbieRandolph]

And if you're going to not count their 4 because you weren't alive, then you can't the 4 of ours that were before '86.

 

[SheltonChoked]

I live in Houston, TX and the people out here think it is funny that Ole Miss had a Klan rally before the LSU game...

 

[Fdawg.sixpack]

like i said i was wrong I heard the stat somewhere and had no reason not to belive it but I guess I didnt know about OM's good seasons in 56 64 69 and 72

the fact of the statement is that as a fan of MSU I have memories of ATL, the Final 4 and the CWS...OM fans have none of those memories

 

[AceD3]

Since Vaught left, Ole Miss is 25-13 against MSU. 25-13, with the best decade for the Bulldogs since the 30's included and you guys try to sell that Ole Miss hasn't dominated MSU outside of the Vaught era? Hysterical.

You dont want to know how MSU all-time stacks up with Ole Miss just in the last 20 years in 8+ win seasons, 9+ win seasons, bowls, major bowls and victories, and finishing nationally ranked. It's pretty ridiculous.

There is a greater disparity between OM football and MSU football's respective programs than MSU's baseball to OM's baseball's...

Far greater.</p>

 

[hamdog13]

Ole Piss does not dominate the series. and if we are looking at the big picture of both athletic programs. of the 3 main sports programs (football,basketball,and baseball) Mississippi State leads the all time series 406-353 which is a 53 game lead. Now go cry into your Klan Robes you fruity appletini ****.</p>

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

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[HD6]

well played.

 

[HD6]

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[karlchilders.sixpack]

in 1971, fairly similar games....My first State.. OM game that I attended...

Sort of like Bookends!

 

[AceD3]

Gotta love that great logic... equating baseball wins to Egg Bowls. I hope you're five, as that would excuse it.

Quite clearly, OM does dominate the series... as the record shows.

Thanks for the laughs.

 

[Todd4State]

You dont want to know how MSU all-time stacks up with Ole Miss just in the last 20 years in 8+ win seasons, 9+ win seasons, bowls, major bowls and victories,
and finishing nationally ranked. It's pretty ridiculous.

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So I looked it up. Mainly becuase I didn't think your numbers were right. And guess what? They weren't.

Using cfbdatawarehouse.com, actual on the field results of the Egg Bowl since Vaught in 1973 left is 19-14 in favor of Ole Miss. Five game lead. Thanks Rockey!

8-10 win seasons the past 20 years- Mississippi 7 Mississippi State 5 Thanks Jackie! Thanks God for Croom's 07 season.

Bowls in the past 20 years- Mississippi 10 Mississippi State 7

"Major Bowl" is in the eye of the beholder. I'm calling a New Year's Day Bowl a major bowl, and we did play the Peach Bowl on NYD in 1995, but I'm not going to count it. I am counting the Cotton Bowl and Gator Bowl.

So, Major Bowls in the past 20 years- Mississippi 3 Mississippi State 1

Times ranked- Mississippi 6 Mississippi State 4 Thanks Jackie again.

I noticed you left out SEC West Championships. I know you are going to point out that you tied for the West Championship in 2003. I will point out that you lost to LSU, who had an identical record to you in the SEC, and therefore, no dice from me.

SEC West Championships Mississippi State 1, Ole Miss 0

I will say that Ole Miss does have the advantage in most of those categories, but I also will say that to say that the advantage is so far in Ole Miss's corner that it's ridiculous is quite a stretch as well. Unless you consider the fact that all of those advantages could be in MSU's favor in five years POTENTIALLY- not saying that that will happen at all, just that the lead is not so far out that it's something that wouldn't change in my lifetime kind of deal when you are looking at the past 20 years.

 

[bully90]

But Mullen will have our dogs ready for the fight. As they say, you can never count on the records of the team as to who may win. I love our chances!

 

[bully90]

Great pic if the band had not spelled...DOOM.

 

[AceD3]

read I guess.

Since Vaught left (in 1970), Ole Miss is 26-13 against MSU... You dont even have enough games in your made up stat, so that's very interesting.</p>

Shame I have to break it down, but in dealing with folks who can't work numbers or deliberately lie you can't cut any corners. OM won in 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1992, 1995, 1997, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2008.

Quite a bit more than a 5 game lead, a whopping .67 percent winning percentage to a .33 percent. Dominate.

In looking at the USA Today/Coaches poll, MSU only has finished nationally ranked 3 times in the past 20 years (94, 99, 00) and barely on two of those occasions. In fact, MSU has only finished in the top 20 nationally once in 20 years. By comparison, Ole Miss doubles up MSU in final rankings with 6 and triples you up in finishing in the top 20.

It is correct that we have had 7 seasons of 8 or more wins in the past 20 years (9 now in the past 25), MSU has 9 since WW2.</p>

We have had 4 seasons of 9 or more wins in only the past 20 years- with a pretty good shot to get to 5 seasons this year- MSU has 4, EVER.

If OM makes the Cotton or Cap one this season, it will have been to as many (3) major bowl games as MSU has alltime. OM already has more NYD bowl victories in just the past 6 years as MSU does all time.</p>

Ole Miss has as many SECW championships as MSU, has 6 times the amount of SEC titles, and far more bowl championships and major bowl championships. No comparison, again.</p>

 

[AssEndDawg]

And yes, I'll give you the KKK **** just happened, but the jokes here have been worn out to the point where I believe that only an MSU fan would find it funny.

We are only trying to amuse MSU fans. We didn't ask you to drag your *** to our board. Stay the *!%% at home if you don't want to discuss a KLAN RALLY on the OLE MISS CAMPUS because you dumb +!%@# are yelling THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN at the end of DIXIE. Are you really this dense? Do you really not see what an embarrassment your school is to any decent person in the South?

Oh, and when recruits stay home because of your stupid **** you can bet that we are talking it up. I have several folks at work who's kids are going to play college ball and I've asked every one of them if they would be scared to send their kid to Ole Miss with the racial strife on campus. I bring up all the old examples as well. Really tell a yarn. By the end they are horrified. The best part... it's all true.

 

[bully90]

will happen in 3 days. Book it.

 

[HLRebel]

At how 17ing stupid this board has gotten in the past year. I hope DS is getting some serious cash.

 

[HD6]

Typical, can't win in real life, so win in the courtroom. I think it's better to count the actual on field results, especially since those games were coached by a guy who learned at the foot of Johnny Vaught, so we won in 1976 and 1977. We also won in 1970. So we are at 23-16. And Todd stated in his post he was starting from the end of 1973, the year Vaught came back to take over for Kinard.

And I also find it humorous that a fan of a school that claims a Litkenhous national championship would only use the USA Today poll for finishing ranked. We were ranked in the AP poll in 1992. And of course, you claim that SEC West title as well, always makes me chuckle, thanks.

This..."It is correct that we have had 7 seasons of 8 or more wins in the past 20 years (9 now in the past 25), MSU has 9 since WW2." is what we call spin. We are only talking about the last 20 years. In the past 20 years, its 7-5. And to show we can spin to, if you take the last 30 years, it's 9-9.

Our friends at the College Football Data Warehouse, who are about as unbiased an observer as we can get, rank Ole Miss 43rd overall for the past 25 years, and MSU 52nd.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

They believe if you can't win it on the field, use your lawyers. That's why the all-time record is still 59-40-6. </p>

 

[AceD3]

Vaught coached OM in 1970, why on earth do you throw that in? Guess hiss era is back in and we are talking about utter domination again.

You remove the forfeits, it 24-15, utter domination again. Without them, it's 26-13. Not much difference either way.

"And to show we can spin to, if you take the last 30 years, it's 9-9."

Wrong again, as is almost every 'stat' fudged in this thread to mitigate OM domination in football. MSU has only 8 seasons of 8 or more wins since WW2, they certainly don't have 9 in the past 30. As to the 9 win seasons, doubling up MSU in final rankings, the domination in NYD appearance- I noticed those facts were met with resounding silence.

There is no comparison between the two programs, it isn't even close. MSU is far closer to UK and Vandy than it is to Ole Miss in any objective analysis of football programs.

 

[KurtRambis4]

You gotta be kidding me. Ole Miss blows. State blows. Denying either of those is idiotic.

 

[eckie1]

"There is no comparison between the two programs, it isn't even close. MSU is far closer to UK and Vandy than it is to Ole Miss in any objective analysis of football programs." Any objective analysis would put dear Old Miss closer to Vandy and UK than you idiots ever would, too.

 

[spacecataz]

Vaught coached OM in 1970, why on earth do you throw that in? Guess hiss era is back in and we are talking about utter domination again.

You remove the forfeits, it 24-15, utter domination again. Without them, it's 26-13. Not much difference either way.

"And to show we can spin to, if you take the last 30 years, it's 9-9."

Wrong again, as is almost every 'stat' fudged in this thread to mitigate OM domination in football. MSU has only 8 seasons of 8 or more wins since WW2, they certainly don't have 9 in the past 30. As to the 9 win seasons, doubling up MSU in final rankings, the domination in NYD appearance- I noticed those facts were met with resounding silence.

There is no comparison between the two programs, it isn't even close. MSU is far closer to UK and Vandy than it is to Ole Miss in any objective analysis of football programs.

Hell, I'll admit it - we've sucked it up in football over the years. Noone here will argue that fact. Does that make you proud? That statistically you guys are ahead of the curb vs. a "bottom feeder" in the SEC? Apparently it does, because all I ever hear about from your ilk is how the mighty Mississippi Rebels have completely blown MSU off the map in football since the beginning of time. Acting like your program is light years ahead of ours is just naive and ignorant. Yet their main rival is LSU. Sure. Nice try. But it just blows my friggin mind that you Rebs somehow equate "total" and "utter domination" over MSU to being some perennial football powerhouse who should be competing for a National Championship every year.

Really. Look at your program from an unbiased point of view.

Congrats. You have a nice shiny turd of a football program.