He seems to believe that social warriors are the end all be all of the law these days.
Ellen/Elliot Page
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lol at this when the very foundation of our country is built on doing exactly that, ignoring the majority to cater to the minority - see the Senate and the Electoral College.
Yep. They can cry like little babies all they want. I don't care if a man chops off his penis and call himself a woman all he wants, but I sure as hell don't have to respect them.
I also think it’s telling that every major publication is calling Ellen “he” now and talking about how brave “he” is. This is another agenda move meant to change our culture, done by a bunch of nonsensical childless Brooklyn-based liberals who were the band and newspaper geeks in high school.
You are wrong. As usual. I won’t do your homework (yet again) for you. You can start with the law in NYC. You can read about Britain, or Jordan Peterson.
It is coerced speech, which is illegal.
So this is not remotely like those things. Good lord.
You’re a solid poster, and I like your posts—but cancellation can come out of nowhere. A slip of the tongue and you lose your job? Like it did to Kappell? He was fired and driven out of Rochester by the hand of an incompetent mayor. I don’t think he signed on to do the weather that day for the purposes of playing stupid games.
What if it happened to you? No one is immune from this. Someone will mistake Jerry Rice for Daryl Strawberry then boom. It starts over
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So basically you’re sayin that people shouldn’t speak out about their gender/what they feel they need to share—because that makes it difficult for you to speak out without people being upset about your speech?
Typical crappy attempt to avoid.
You Self owned
My job is done.
u owe me
False. You don’t even get it. You are helpless man. Go watch that interview and come back.
Just read where Ellen's new weiner fell down her pant leg. Near her ankle.
Suing her doctor.
Suing her doctor.
Always have and always do stupid.
Are you ever right?
Who’s switch names for internet facesaving? More projection by you. Only a person like you would stoop to that level.
I’m not always right, but am always right in comparison to you. Watched the Peterson clip yet?
Is this about Mike Obama?
There is no freedom from consequences when it comes to public speech. There probably should be, but honestly, something that is expressly classified as an opinion and does not attack anyone in any way is the only thing that should be protected. I think unions need to do a better job of protecting those with politically unpopular viewpoints from being fired (those who are employees at Google or Twitter who get fired because they stand up to PC bullies). Racist/sexist/xenophobic slurs, etc, though? Bye.
But the same people who are always crying about free speech are the ones that elect politicians that want to cripple the power of unions at every turn.
No, they don’t want that, but they are tired of liberal politicians sitting there, saying they should stand there and stop complaining about the way of life they enjoyed for many years being gradually ripped away.
No, they don’t want immigrants who are not lawfully here driving down wages while being a pet group for the Democrats.
No, they don’t want America’s history, which was once (ten years ago) revered as being spectacular, aside from the original sins of slavery and the genocide of Native Americans, being relitigated, so that future generations of children are taught America was never that great, and we have no reason to fight for its ideals.
Republicans are openly meaner and more gruff, but at least they don’t constantly try to create victim groups that they imply white people should bow to.
We need a third party.
By the way, I am a Democrat. I just get tired of people constantly trying to create new social constructs. Leave people alone, and help us try to move forward.
We were in a good spot in 1999. Things changed quickly.
No, they don’t want immigrants who are not lawfully here driving down wages while being a pet group for the Democrats.
No, they don’t want America’s history, which was once (ten years ago) revered as being spectacular, aside from the original sins of slavery and the genocide of Native Americans, being relitigated, so that future generations of children are taught America was never that great, and we have no reason to fight for its ideals.
Republicans are openly meaner and more gruff, but at least they don’t constantly try to create victim groups that they imply white people should bow to.
We need a third party.
By the way, I am a Democrat. I just get tired of people constantly trying to create new social constructs. Leave people alone, and help us try to move forward.
We were in a good spot in 1999. Things changed quickly.
Have you ever taken an American History class, you think the only sinful things this country has done are slavery and Native American genocide?
Just to name one additional one, we literally ran internment camps for people of Japanese ancestry living in America (primarily on the West Coast due to designated wartime exclusion zones) during World War II and stole all their property and belongings just because of the color of their skin.
Just because they were waging an existential war for civilzation. Had they lost, you wouldn't exist and none of this would be like it is now but much, much worse.
The mindchuck they did on you people in "school" is really something else, really remarkable, really unbelievable and really pathetic.
That doesn't forgive the past evils, but whatever moment in time you look back on to wag your moralistic finger at like you are better (you aren't), the rest of the world at that time WAS MORE EVIL, MORE RACIST.
Just because someone else was worse at something than America was doesn’t make it right. If I steal three video games from Walmart while my friend steals a PS5 and five video games, that doesn’t make what I did any less of a sin. A sin is a sin no matter what anyone else does.
And a war doesn’t absolve the US from illegally detaining American citizens without due process. There’s a reason why even conservative hero Ronald Reagan publicly apologized on the record for the sin of Japanese internment and awarded reparations.
Never said it made it right, nor did I imply it, even explicitly said that it doesn't forgive past evils.
All sorts of things are happening today too that aren't right either. It is not like we've reached peak morality; there are going to be things we find acceptable today that "rightly" and "wrongly" won't be in the future, but foundational American values like freedom of speech are self-evident truths that cannot be infringed should not be one of them.
All sorts of things are happening today too that aren't right either. It is not like we've reached peak morality; there are going to be things we find acceptable today that "rightly" and "wrongly" won't be in the future, but foundational American values like freedom of speech are self-evident truths that cannot be infringed should not be one of them.
You are correct, but my point remains. The U.S. has been the best country, in terms of its overall body of work, in world history.
Why cant the fat ugly chicks transgender?
This chick is not unattractive... would much rather keep the attractive ones hetero... and give them the Rosie O'Donnells of the world.
This chick is not unattractive... would much rather keep the attractive ones hetero... and give them the Rosie O'Donnells of the world.
I hope it goes through and completes the surgery. Then I hope it loses opportunities for employment for being a white male. The irony would be nice.
I splurged for a Program and I still can't keep up with the players on today's team.
Why do you even care?
I seriously doubt you're worried about this "poor person". Sounds more like prejudice that you're too cowardly to go full tilt on.
Elliot Page's statement on the topic at hand:
Excellent. I'm happy for him and I hope that his decision to openly share his feelings on this matter can help inspire confidence and self-worth in anyone else who's struggling against any form of intolerance.
Elliot Page said:
Excellent. I'm happy for him and I hope that his decision to openly share his feelings on this matter can help inspire confidence and self-worth in anyone else who's struggling against any form of intolerance.
I hope Page's HSA covers mental illness... might want to max that out this coming year.
This is batshit crazy:
Deadnaming: A trans person’s given or former name that they no longer use, also often referred to as a “given name” or “legal name.” … While deadname is usually a noun, it’s also used as a verb to refer to the act of using the wrong name for a trans person.
How to correct it?
Practice (on your own time)
If you find that you’re having a difficult time remembering to use a trans person’s name or pronouns, Kleine suggests putting the time and effort into changing that. “Sometimes that means practicing when they’re not around, just getting comfortable with new pronouns to make sure that you can get it right when you are around this person that you care about,” they said. What would this look like? Perhaps just repeating the name while thinking of the person’s face, and saying it aloud alongside their pronouns.
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So we all need to practice calling Ellen, or Elliot, by her real names and pronouns.. whatever she feels like she wants to be called.. And we need to do that for every individual trans person out there?
I don't care how awful this sounds: I have ZERO desire to interact with someone who would get this up in arms about me getting their name/pronouns wrong every now and then. If you're trans? Cool, whatever. If you're this uptight about it? You can stay away. Practicing your pronouns on MY won time.. **** out of here.
Deadnaming: A trans person’s given or former name that they no longer use, also often referred to as a “given name” or “legal name.” … While deadname is usually a noun, it’s also used as a verb to refer to the act of using the wrong name for a trans person.
How to correct it?
Practice (on your own time)
If you find that you’re having a difficult time remembering to use a trans person’s name or pronouns, Kleine suggests putting the time and effort into changing that. “Sometimes that means practicing when they’re not around, just getting comfortable with new pronouns to make sure that you can get it right when you are around this person that you care about,” they said. What would this look like? Perhaps just repeating the name while thinking of the person’s face, and saying it aloud alongside their pronouns.
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So we all need to practice calling Ellen, or Elliot, by her real names and pronouns.. whatever she feels like she wants to be called.. And we need to do that for every individual trans person out there?
I don't care how awful this sounds: I have ZERO desire to interact with someone who would get this up in arms about me getting their name/pronouns wrong every now and then. If you're trans? Cool, whatever. If you're this uptight about it? You can stay away. Practicing your pronouns on MY won time.. **** out of here.
That's why all the asians are rioting, menacing, vandalizing, pillaging, desecrating, tearing down statues...oh wait...
America isn't perfect. But until recently it was the best thing going, politically, economically, diversity-wise, freedom-wise, etc. Now we're reduced to p!ssing matches over pronouns and attempts to mandate acceptance of an individual's self-delusions.
I think the term ***** is now acceptable and can be used to cover any situation like this.
Gonna give it a couple weeks anyway, it’s still yesterday here. Can’t retroactively piss anyone off.