Emasculation of a defense
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We need to extend everyone in case Doane comes calling
Pussification of a program. About to lose 10/11 to a garbage program.
I am noticing some new names on Defense today, but I still think Butler has to make some more adaptations to the Big Ten. That guy is still in NFL mode, but I think he can change his system to adapt to this league.. if he's willing to do that.
He needs to be gone. He wants to play from the secondary forward instead of the other way around.
Butler was on the staff for a year, was a DC for PSU for a year and that was his last DC job. You are saying he isn’t smart enough to figure out how to run a D in the vaunted B1G which really isn’t that much different than any other league.
I expressed concern about him this summer. If anyone thinks he can just make the adjustments to D the B1G like magic and things will be fine, try again. We are getting completely owned and run over.
yeah, basically it looks like he is making some changes with different personnel that I haven't seen before. It's been feast or famine on D all day. They have a lot of good plays, but then just as many bad ones. I am trying to give Butler the benefit of the doubt, but maybe he isn't the right guy either. I'd be okay if Matt replaced both coordinators, as long as the replacements were well thought out to a system to run here season after season.
I would get rid of Singleton, Buford, Jeudy and Jones. Singleton does not want to tackle. Watch every scoring play that he is nearby. He is always stumbling. Better to slip and take yourself out of the play than to get roughed up making a tackle.
Scrap the 3-3-5
Its not working here and it’s not going to work here.
Its not working here and it’s not going to work here.
John Butler gonna get an extension. That’s how it works in Nebraska.
He’s missing some very important pieces. At times he had the perfect D called and veteran players whiffed. Ceyair Wright had Gronowski dead to rights and whiffed on a tackle ending in a huge pass play. Freshman DB bites on a double move by the TE and that goes for 6. Those are two plays where guys blew their assignments and it resulted in 14 points.
Is that all on Butler? I’m not sure what to believe. It looked bad today. Missing those 2 bad boys in the Dline killed us this year. Maybe Braddock is able to find some dudes there who make Butler look smarter. We have some freshman and sophomore DBs and backers who I think could be very good. I’m just deflated and numb to the whole deal. I can only imagine how the team feels.
Garbage program?!?
wtf… with Nebby attitude like that, it’s one of the reasons that Ferentz just loves to stick it to you corn holers. 
Make all the excuses you want. We have consistently been run over in the ground game all year. The only counter he has is to blitz and then really get burned. Notice teams running screens on us on 3rd down. He could NOT field a team that could set the edge on S to save their life. Carrier talked about this being a problem and he said the same thing we coaches in HS. You have to keep your outside shoulder open and turn, if you allow a blocker to get to that outside shoulder he can control you and turn you inside. You can cherry pick plays all you want, some people actually look at technique which we do not have.
Iowa is not a great program. But it is not a garbage program.
Iowa has now won eight (8) games in EVERY full season since 2015.
That’s 10 straight FULL years of 8+ wins for the Hawkeyes.
Iowa is one (1) of just four (4) FBS programs with 8+ wins in the last 10 FULL yrs: • Alabama • Georgia • Iowa • Ohio St
Iowa never beats itself. They just do the little things and wait for you to screw up. Like playing golf where you just hit it down the middle, make a nice chip and 2 putt and go to the next hole.
I thought he was a good secondary coach. I still think he's a good secondary coach. We need a good DC.
I didn't initially like the hire to begin with and was vocal about it. I thought in a situation like HCMR was in you couldn't hire a guy with 1 year of DC experience and it was over 10 years ago. It never made sense to me. At that time I felt like HCMR was betting his job on that hire. Well he's extended so he probably got a pass from that now. After the Snow hiring I convinced myself that it would be better with his veteran presence. Then the Williams hire another former DC made me feel a bit more "ok" with it all.
That said so far I have to say it's been a failure. Can't win in this league as a poor run stopping defense. Add to that poor pass rushers as well. Amazing that we actually did ok covering all things included.
Rhule is in a tough assed position moving forward. I actually expected the defense to struggle and be worse this year. But man our offense which most everyone thought would carry us has been a disappointment as well. I don't envy his position right now. He's gonna have to make some tough calls this off season....
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So you are comparing a position coach on D for Buffalo and Allen to being the D coordinator for Nebraska?
What do you mean “it looked bad today”? It’s looked bad all season. You make it sound like those were isolated plays today, they were not. At the beginning of the year against Cincy there was no book on Butler. Lots of blitzes, players coming from all angles. Two
Cupcakes and we still didn’t know but it wasn’t long before we learned his team could not stop the run. Then there was the illusion of a tough pass D statistically which in my opinion was due to the fact teams simply ran on Nebraska. As the season progressed, it was clear we couldn’t stop either as we committed to one or the other.
I just can’t wait to see what he comes up with next year after graduating his seniors. Has talent been developed? Like Gutherie and Jones? Are they your star defenders if the future? I really thought our LBs would be the strength of the team this year but it was not.
The single biggest issue in my opinion is the lack of ability to make basic football plays like shutting down the edge and forcing plays inside. Teams abused us all year if they had any resemblance to a running game. We simply had no answer. Every year teams lose kids to graduation, so what is new? That is going to be the excuse?
Excellent post, and this is the part that makes me want to smash my head into the table.
HCMR has every resource at his disposal to identify qualified, experienced candidates. And frankly he should not be going in cold when engaging candidates. Succession planning is a fundamental part of being the CEO he so unconvincingly portrays himself as. He should have a living, active awareness and strategy when it comes to who is available if changes need to be made.
The fans know that and expect that as well. Hence, the universal raised eyebrow when we bring in OTJTs time after time.
HCMR: "nah lemme just hire the guy down the hall"
You’re right. It looked bad most of the year. Whether Butler is retained or not, we have to find a NT in the portal. Changing DCs isn’t going to fix anything if we don’t find another dude in the middle.
Rhule was forced to guarantee him the DC in waiting job just to get him here 60 days prior to the season starting in ‘24
No offense but that is a simple view. One person, one position. Then targeting a Nose Tackle in the portal that has experience and production meaning they are already starting somewhere? I assume you want to simply lure someone with $ that is already a starter and a stud? Do those people typically end up in the portal?
What I’m saying is that Buffalo still has the best Passing Defense without Butler there…So how good of a coach is he really?
If that's true it was not a well thought out idea. Like I said at the time that hire would likely make or break his career at Nebraska. He got a lifeline with the extension though so now he may end up getting a couple more years to correct mistakes.
Not gonna lie I expected to defense to struggle this year. I may be more disappointed in what the offense did this year. I was expecting a big jump. But didn't see it at all.
Special teams was the only group that I'd say improved dramatically.
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However, that wasn’t really the way it played out in yesterday’s game, that is, waiting for Nebraska to make mistakes. Rather, Iowa came out aggressive on offense and just took it to Nebraska.
Ferentz isn't a dummy. They knew Nebraskas defense could be had. Any team who could run the ball and were patient enough with it would have it's way with Nebraskas defense. USC out started themselves by continuously going to the pass when it wasn't necessary. Had they just kept running those counted that game could've gotten outta hand even with Raiola at QB.
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