I understand wanting to get the call right, but that review looked to be never in doubt. Not sure what they were looking at. Certainly not enough evidence to think the clock started too late.
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Yea. The shot barely got off though. I think that and osu is why it took so long.
they were looking to see if the clock started when the Minny player touched it after he picked it up on the roll
IM A CONVINCED THEY DID THIS BECAUSE OF THE RU SCREW VS OHIO STATE AND WERE INSTRUCTED THEY CANNOT LET SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENED AGAIN
IM A CONVINCED THEY DID THIS BECAUSE OF THE RU SCREW VS OHIO STATE AND WERE INSTRUCTED THEY CANNOT LET SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENED AGAIN
I actually think if you deducted the time that should have come off, shot shouldn't have counted. It was close though.
With technology today, they could time the moment he touched it to the time the shot was released down to the hundredth or thousandth of a second. You see it in movie reels and things of that nature if they really wanted to be thorough. Wish we got this @ Ohio St it would have saved us 2 losses and we'd be 20-10 and not 18-12.
The ref has a little button to press to start the clock. If he was too late in doing that, that is a problem.
HOWEVER.. I just found a video clip shown in real time. Most of the videos they showed in the aftergame review were slow motion. I downloaded a shot clock video with tenths. I sync'd the shot clock at 5.8 seconds to the real-time video.. he got the shot off with 0.2 remaining. I went frame by frame.
Now.. since they showed slow-motion replays mostly.. maybe that "real time replay" was sped up in some way. It is possible.
And if you recall.. they ADDED time when that Minny player pushed Caleb OOB without them making a call.
My problem is not the shot clock.. yeah.. we GAVE that game away. Paul Mulcahy has been playing like crap. But there were several calls in that game that were highly suspect. Like an offense foul on a pick by Cliff that was essentially a trip.. that was called.. arguably correct.. but Minny does the same damn thing later and trips Paul and that was NO CALL. Plenty of cases of stuff like that.. like Hyatt gets a charge call and Minny does not in same situation. That is two possessions stolen from us by refs. A ball was called out of Cliff when it was clear that a Minny player knocked it out.. no review on that one when they called for review many times, always giving the ball to Minny.
HOWEVER.. I just found a video clip shown in real time. Most of the videos they showed in the aftergame review were slow motion. I downloaded a shot clock video with tenths. I sync'd the shot clock at 5.8 seconds to the real-time video.. he got the shot off with 0.2 remaining. I went frame by frame.
Now.. since they showed slow-motion replays mostly.. maybe that "real time replay" was sped up in some way. It is possible.
And if you recall.. they ADDED time when that Minny player pushed Caleb OOB without them making a call.
My problem is not the shot clock.. yeah.. we GAVE that game away. Paul Mulcahy has been playing like crap. But there were several calls in that game that were highly suspect. Like an offense foul on a pick by Cliff that was essentially a trip.. that was called.. arguably correct.. but Minny does the same damn thing later and trips Paul and that was NO CALL. Plenty of cases of stuff like that.. like Hyatt gets a charge call and Minny does not in same situation. That is two possessions stolen from us by refs. A ball was called out of Cliff when it was clear that a Minny player knocked it out.. no review on that one when they called for review many times, always giving the ball to Minny.
I texted that to someone, it was the exact same play when Paul tried to play the screener high and he got tripped and I’m like ok call that, and led to a bucket. The Hyatt offensive foul was questionable too.
0.2 is what I saw too. Clock start was delayed by at least 0.3 just to naked eye. So, while certainly not the same as Ohio State steal, a steal nonetheless.
Those calls and no-calls, imho, could have been working the point spread.. which was in jeopardy one way or the other during that timeframe. 8.5 points it was. YEAH.. it should not have mattered.. we LOST that game but without those calls and no-calls our implosion would have had enough of a cushion to win anyway.
I honestly think we are out of the NCAAs. The committee will have many teams who are playing well right now from which to choose. It is sad. These guys worked so hard this season after losing Geo and RHJ. They made themselves a better team. But I think all teh minutes playing that tough a defense and losing Mag.. it is all just too much for them. I hope I am wrong.
dude above did big work on seeing the possession start .3 seconds before the clock started. shot made at .2. we got a problem wit dat.
Agree but that was ridiculous!!!! I never had a doubt we lost BUT when they huddled on the court I said "Wow are they actually going to overturn this?" Why else did they move from the video screen to the court to disucss? Weird and Waaaaaayyyyyy to long. Embarassing