ESCC/CCL Merger Facts
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We'll have divisions, of which you'll play most of your games against teams from outside, then we'll name champions of those divisions based on the overall record.
Also, there are no "east" suburbs.
Also, there are no "east" suburbs.
Dean of Selection just said 4 of 6 on rumor mill thread .... so who the hell knows! This whole thing is gonna be a cluster.
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I’ve heard both formats but 6 div of 4 seems to be the majority. Redmen has the pulse on the situation.
I’ve heard both formats but 6 div of 4 seems to be the majority. Redmen has the pulse on the situation.
To clarify:
6 divisions of 4
70% success factor (weighted formula)
15% male enrollment
15% football participation
(Can someone confirm that’s 100%?)
2018 and 2017 records taken into account so divisions won’t be determined until after the season.
6 divisions of 4
70% success factor (weighted formula)
15% male enrollment
15% football participation
(Can someone confirm that’s 100%?)
2018 and 2017 records taken into account so divisions won’t be determined until after the season.
I'm checking with my sources and they're indicating 70+15+15= 100%. Waiting on one final confirm of that though.
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If it's really 70% weighted based on record that seems like it will cause a lot of movement every few years.
And so location is not a factor at all either then?
And so location is not a factor at all either then?
Those crafty SOB’s at Loyola are playing 4 dimensional chess...
It’s like Obamacare, you vote to approve it first then you get to find out what the plan is.... divisions, crossovers, etc.... ESCC are suckers for sure!
When checking sources, check your math ... that 105% ...
must be a benet graduate
I got it... love people you have to explain your jokes too... they must have loved Jay Leno
No word on that. I would prefer subjectivity on the crossovers to try and pair rivals or intriguing matchups outside the division.
I believe CCL now does a blind draw for crossovers and then rotates.
Rotation won’t really work if there’s potential for change every two years?
My head hurts - why didn’t they just go 3 divisions of 8 and then it’s only the non-cons that need to be determined. They are certainly doing everything they can to keep everyone happy.
The new CCL/ESCC: Fair & Balanced
Should have and easily could have done 8 team groupings based purely on enrollment. They are all private so no “recruiting” advantage and if you are big and still suck at football... too bad, your fault/problem!
8 biggest 8 smallest and 8 in middle
Agree. The only school that really gets screwed with that structure is Ignatius (who has more boys than all but LA, Marist and ND) but surely their revenge would be had down the road when everyone is working for them.
Not saying I personally agree with the approach, but I believe the flexibility of the smaller divisions and readjustment after two years is something the member schools wanted.
There’s really only 1 question that truly matters regarding this merger: how will it affect the Prep Bowl?
Only the schools that aren’t good and looking for any easy route they can find to find wins. Kansas is at the bottom of the Big 12 should they get to go be a better team in the MAC?
Maybe the real problem is that we are trying to lump all of these schools into one conference just because they are all Catholic.... fact is Leo doesn’t belong in the same conference at all as Loyola... heck with divisions.
As I said, I'm not saying I agree with the approach. I believe that is the rationale behind the high number of divisions.
High number of divisions means you don't spend the majority of your season beating up on each other.
Like it or not-It seems to be well thought out-In my opinion.
Like it or not-It seems to be well thought out-In my opinion.
4 crossover games maybe be a set up wheras 3 of the games should be guaranteed wins for the strong divison + 2 cupcake non conference wins = 5 wins and playoff eligible
How about these? 
1-Loyola Marist Br.Rice Mt.Carmel
2-Providence St.Rita Montini Marmion
3-De La Salle St.Laurence Fenwick St.Ignatius
4-Nazareth Benet Notre Dame Joliet Catholic
5-St.Patrick Carmel St.Viator Marian Central
6-Leo St.Joseph DePaul Marian Catholic
Hope Academy (Out)
Marmion looks out of place but they did come into the league with Montini a few years ago.
1-Loyola Marist Br.Rice Mt.Carmel
2-Providence St.Rita Montini Marmion
3-De La Salle St.Laurence Fenwick St.Ignatius
4-Nazareth Benet Notre Dame Joliet Catholic
5-St.Patrick Carmel St.Viator Marian Central
6-Leo St.Joseph DePaul Marian Catholic
Hope Academy (Out)
Marmion looks out of place but they did come into the league with Montini a few years ago.