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Xenomorph

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Dan Mullen has made a good life for he.

Seriously, Alex Scarborough? Is that sentence grammatically correct? No.. and that means neither is "Dan Mullen has made a good life for he and his family in Starkille."

Only had to read the first sentence in your article to know you suck at your job. (And presumably so does your editor, cause surely somebody proofs your stuff.)



 

57stratdawg

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Just to clarify:

MSU doesn't have the resources or talent to compete in the SECW under Mullen, but OM has both to compete under Freeze?

Mullen makes this job look harder than it is.
 

Lou3000

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I think Dan is a good college football coach. He can manage a program, recruit reasonably well, and then develop talent. However, Dan is not an elite game coach. He can win with better talent, but he's never out coached anyone other than that one year we beat Florida in the Swamp. I can't think of another game that we've played above our talent level. I can think of a number of times that we have clearly been the better team and have been out coached. These are important qualities, winning the games you should win is an important skill.

When Dan's name came up as a potential candidate for the Georgia job, I visited a Georgia message board. They were laughing about the possibility that Mullen would be the next head football coach.

The article lists Miami, USC, Virginia Tech, Missouri, South Carolina, Minnesota and Maryland as potential openings. Some are lateral or worse, but for the big names, I'd be shocked if Dan was on the list for ANY of those programs.
 

MaroonNation

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Not everyone wants to have Saban's problems. That is what makes me laugh every time I read one of these articles. Mullen gets $4,000,000,000 + per year to coach the Mississippi State Bulldogs. $4 million in Mississippi money is equivalent to $5 or $6 million elsewhere. He isn't under pressure to win every game every year like other coaches in this conference. Hell we have even proved he doesn't have to win every Egg Bowl. Why would someone leave when he is making a killing?
 

OliveBranchDAWG

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1. I don't necessarily disagree with anything Scarborough says, it's just lazy. We've read this same article every year for the last 6 seasons, only difference is there will be MORE jobs open this off-season. But there's probably only 2 jobs I could see Mullen leaving for: USC & VT (Miami is the most overrated job in the country).

2. Why is this BS never written about Freeze? OM could be on the verge of finishing 8-4/7-5 with the most talented team in their history. This was supposed to be THE year, and they lost to Memphis & Arkansas. If anyone will be looking to leave town this off-season it will be Hugh, especially if Mullen wins the Egg Bowl. OM will be lucky to make a bowl game next year with their schedule and personnel losses.
 
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Dawgzilla

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I'll say this, if Mullen is ever going to leave, this is the year. A lot of coaches are going to get overpaid this off season due to the number of openings. Plus Dak is graduating.

But, it will take $5 million+ per year to get him, and he just isn't worth that. The number of schools willing and able to pay that is pretty small.
 

johnson86-1

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I think Dan is a good college football coach. He can manage a program, recruit reasonably well, and then develop talent. However, Dan is not an elite game coach. He can win with better talent, but he's never out coached anyone other than that one year we beat Florida in the Swamp. I can't think of another game that we've played above our talent level. I can think of a number of times that we have clearly been the better team and have been out coached. These are important qualities, winning the games you should win is an important skill.

When Dan's name came up as a potential candidate for the Georgia job, I visited a Georgia message board. They were laughing about the possibility that Mullen would be the next head football coach.

The article lists Miami, USC, Virginia Tech, Missouri, South Carolina, Minnesota and Maryland as potential openings. Some are lateral or worse, but for the big names, I'd be shocked if Dan was on the list for ANY of those programs.

And that's hilarious because Mullen would be perfect for a big name program. If he stepped into an existing recruiting network and a job that would pay a DC enough that they wouldn't be wanting to leave, he'd win 10 games a year forever and probably win a national championship or two when he actually just had the most talent in the country.

Mullen has his limitations, but going to a big name school would make his most glaring ones moot.
 

was21

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VT is not a higher profile job than the State job, not even a lateral as far as prestige. Nevertheless, it would provide an easier path to a conference championship.
 

johnson86-1

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I'll say this, if Mullen is ever going to leave, this is the year. A lot of coaches are going to get overpaid this off season due to the number of openings. Plus Dak is graduating.

But, it will take $5 million+ per year to get him, and he just isn't worth that. The number of schools willing and able to pay that is pretty small.

If Mullen jumps, we will know the cupboard is bare coming up (which I just don't believe). We'll take a step backwards next year and we have to shore up a couple of positions, but unless we have a lot of busts we should have more talent in the pipeline than we've had since he's been here. Even OL, where we have the most to do, I think we have the players right now to ensure this is the worst line we have over the next few years.
 

00Dawg

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Plus Mullen already had the opportunity to head to South Beach and didn't pursue it.
 

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

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I could see him wanting a more elite SEC job and the path to that takes you out of the conference first. The SEC may cannibalize each others assistants, but taking another member school's head coach is a major faux pas (except for the Houston Nutt scenario - Arkansas was about to run him off anyways).

The only thing that would make him go would be ego. He could coach at State making serious coin for another 30 years if he puts together winning seasons every 4 out of 5 years. If he wants to prove he can win a conference or national championship he might want to go elsewhere (I'm not saying State can't win either of those, but the path is easier for a coach in other conferences or at other SEC schools).
 

patdog

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VT is not a higher profile job than the State job, not even a lateral as far as prestige.
Agree. Only job currently open I could see Mullen leaving for is Southern Cal. If UGA comes open, add it to the list. But that's it.
 
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Not everyone wants to have Saban's problems. That is what makes me laugh every time I read one of these articles. Mullen gets $4,000,000,000 + per year to coach the Mississippi State Bulldogs. $4 million in Mississippi money is equivalent to $5 or $6 million elsewhere. He isn't under pressure to win every game every year like other coaches in this conference. Hell we have even proved he doesn't have to win every Egg Bowl. Why would someone leave when he is making a killing?
I agree with this but some idiots on this message board seem to think we should win every game we play with Mullen as coach.
 
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What's on this guy's agenda to write this story? What's it to him what Mullen does? Maybe Mullen likes a challenge. And some of the schools he listed possibly for Mullen. Seriously??? I take this column as an insult to our university like its not good enough for Mullen. One thing he said I do agree with is we have a lack of many 4 and 5 stars that elite programs have. Which is why they're elite to begin with. For those that keep coming on here and beating the dead horse about star rankings don't matter then go look at the elites. Sure some have star power and are underachieving. I get that, it happens. But by far and away the star rankings do matter. Whats funny to me though is when some on here say stars don't matter. But when we hear of a 4 or 5 making a commitment or signs that dotted line they get on here and toot that big horn about that prized recruit. But if we don't get that highly rated player and he goes to another school then its "oh well we didn't need him anyway",
 

GhostOfJackie

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He's done a hell of alot more than revive the football program

He's united an entire fan base, made millions for MSU, and spurred development and investment in a small Mississippi town that is about to explode. Just in the past 3 years people have started to really invest in Starkville. That can be directly related to the success of the football program.
 

Dawgzilla

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Never try to read a coach's mind: they change jobs all the time for all sorts of reasons, but its usually just money and a sense of career advancement. Its possible he wants to get out of the SEC-West, and maybe even get into BIG10 country, just for the easier path to the playoffs. Maybe he wants to get to a school that has the financial means for him to hire the premiere assistant coaches. Who knows? Maybe he is perfectly happy being the head man at State for the rest of his career.

My take on Mullen is that he is too big of a risk for a program willing to pay enough money to pry him away from MSU. To us, he is worth every penny we are paying him. Just look at the packed stadium, and the junction, and the new facilities, and he is a big part of all that. He united a very fractured fan base, and he has shown he can have success without a boatload of 4 and 5 star recruits. A bigger school doesn't need him to be a cheerleader, though, they need him to show he can land a top 10 recruiting class, and win with them on Saturdays.
 

Dawgzilla

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This is what I was alluding to above. He is invaluable to State, but that value doesn't necessarily transfer to larger schools with football programs that already have established football programs.
 

ronpolk

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I think Dan is a good college football coach. He can manage a program, recruit reasonably well, and then develop talent. However, Dan is not an elite game coach. He can win with better talent, but he's never out coached anyone other than that one year we beat Florida in the Swamp. I can't think of another game that we've played above our talent level. I can think of a number of times that we have clearly been the better team and have been out coached. These are important qualities, winning the games you should win is an important skill.

When Dan's name came up as a potential candidate for the Georgia job, I visited a Georgia message board. They were laughing about the possibility that Mullen would be the next head football coach.

The article lists Miami, USC, Virginia Tech, Missouri, South Carolina, Minnesota and Maryland as potential openings. Some are lateral or worse, but for the big names, I'd be shocked if Dan was on the list for ANY of those programs.

Every SEC team, with the exception of vandy and Kentucky, has better talent than us. Some of you guys look for reasons to discount Mullen.
 

CoastDawg18

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And that's hilarious because Mullen would be perfect for a big name program. If he stepped into an existing recruiting network and a job that would pay a DC enough that they wouldn't be wanting to leave, he'd win 10 games a year forever and probably win a national championship or two when he actually just had the most talent in the country.

Mullen has his limitations, but going to a big name school would make his most glaring ones moot.

I agree. He isn't going to retire at MSU. There are some good options for him to pursue this year. It wouldn't be surprising to see him make a jump to a program like USCw or UGA. If he were to do so I think he would be very successful for the reasons you mentioned. Some of our fans think he should have national success every year at MSU. It just isn't going to happen. We can do what we did last year every once in a while but we are what we are, and that is a 8-9 win program on a good year. We will have some 7 or less win seasons and a few 10 or more win seasons sprinkled in. History has proven this to be a fact.
 

Palos verdes

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I don't know if Scarborough went to college, but he should seek a tutor to help him with sentence structure.
 

JungRebel

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I'm not sure the Big 10 offers an easier road to the playoffs, especially if you wind up in the East with Meyer, Harbaugh, Franklin and Dantonio. That division is going to be brutal for Indiana, Rutgers and Maryland for years to come.
 

Dawgzilla

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And that's hilarious because Mullen would be perfect for a big name program. If he stepped into an existing recruiting network and a job that would pay a DC enough that they wouldn't be wanting to leave, he'd win 10 games a year forever and probably win a national championship or two when he actually just had the most talent in the country.

Mullen has his limitations, but going to a big name school would make his most glaring ones moot.

How do you figure this? I mean, Mullen might do just fine at a big name program, but what facts do you have to support that? He has not proven he can bring in the big name recruits to a big name program, or that he will utilize that talent effectively if he does. His offense has serious limitations, so that he needs to find a Tebow/Prescott type of athlete to even hope to be successful.

I'm not saying he would fail at a big name program, I'm just saying there is not enough evidence to claim he "would be a perfect fit".
 

johnson86-1

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How do you figure this? I mean, Mullen might do just fine at a big name program, but what facts do you have to support that? He has not proven he can bring in the big name recruits to a big name program, or that he will utilize that talent effectively if he does. His offense has serious limitations, so that he needs to find a Tebow/Prescott type of athlete to even hope to be successful.

I'm not saying he would fail at a big name program, I'm just saying there is not enough evidence to claim he "would be a perfect fit".

I was thinking of it from an AD's perspective, so maybe I should have said he's as sure of a thing hire you are going to find when Saban, Meyer, and Harbough are not available. At worst, you're looking at a Richt type hire. A guy that consistnetly has highly ranked teams that manages to come up just short year after year. That may not be the greatest hire, but that's a hire that's going to keep you in your job as athletic director for the next 8-10 years. That's not nothing.

As far as recruiting, nobody can prove one way or the other, but I find it hard to believe that he can pull in a top 20 class at state wouldn't be able to hang around the top 10 at the biggest name schools.
 

johnson86-1

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I agree. He isn't going to retire at MSU. There are some good options for him to pursue this year. It wouldn't be surprising to see him make a jump to a program like USCw or UGA. If he were to do so I think he would be very successful for the reasons you mentioned. Some of our fans think he should have national success every year at MSU. It just isn't going to happen. We can do what we did last year every once in a while but we are what we are, and that is a 8-9 win program on a good year. We will have some 7 or less win seasons and a few 10 or more win seasons sprinkled in. History has proven this to be a fact.

I actually don't think he will leave, I just think big name schools are crazy to not take him as a candidate if they are not choosing between him and a Saban, Meyer, Harbuough.

If we didn't seem to be set at QB, I would think this year is very dangerous. Even though we'll almost certainly take a step back next year, it looks like he already has the team ready for another up year in 2017 and 2018 and I'd be a little surprised to see him jump ship to a rebuild project rather than taking advantage of what he has set up for then.
 

RebelBruiser

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1. I don't necessarily disagree with anything Scarborough says, it's just lazy. We've read this same article every year for the last 6 seasons, only difference is there will be MORE jobs open this off-season. But there's probably only 2 jobs I could see Mullen leaving for: USC & VT (Miami is the most overrated job in the country).

2. Why is this BS never written about Freeze? OM could be on the verge of finishing 8-4/7-5 with the most talented team in their history. This was supposed to be THE year, and they lost to Memphis & Arkansas. If anyone will be looking to leave town this off-season it will be Hugh, especially if Mullen wins the Egg Bowl. OM will be lucky to make a bowl game next year with their schedule and personnel losses.

Yea, but Freeze is about to sign his best class yet...by a good margin if things fall like they expect they will, and I think he's going to want to coach those kids rather than starting over elsewhere.

I don't see Mullen leaving for a few reasons.

1) I think he's paid at market value.
2) His personality, like it or not, is a turn off to many.
3) The pool of schools able to pay a head coach above his current contract is not a large pool.
4) Of that pool, I don't think many would go over market value for him at this point.

Point being, I don't think he's going to have opportunity to leave, even if he wanted to do so.
 

patdog

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Really. His "ego" was telling them their facilities were **** and their salary range wasn't nearly enough. I actually have a much better source than Saturday Down South on that.

Edit: I can see why they wouldn't have taken that too well and thought he was an *******.
 
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CoastDawg18

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I actually don't think he will leave, I just think big name schools are crazy to not take him as a candidate if they are not choosing between him and a Saban, Meyer, Harbuough.

If we didn't seem to be set at QB, I would think this year is very dangerous. Even though we'll almost certainly take a step back next year, it looks like he already has the team ready for another up year in 2017 and 2018 and I'd be a little surprised to see him jump ship to a rebuild project rather than taking advantage of what he has set up for then.

He will be on the list for several of these schools. People on the outside think less of MSU and the ability to win here than we as fans of the school do. What he has done here projects to much more at a school that has more potential. Whether he takes the calls from them remains to be seen. I hope he does not. We would be hard pressed to find someone as good as Mullen this year with all of the schools that are in the coaching market.
 

pmack65

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He may sign another top class but as shown this year and in the past his teams are over rated as his coaching ability. If there's one person not leaving a HC job its him, he's not that good IMO.
 

00Dawg

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Something like that. My folks at the time said they actually made another offer after his initial pushback.
It's all about saving face publicly.
 
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