ESPN Pushes John Clayton To The Curb

Big John Stud

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How did I guess that politics would be dragged into this?
Yup, politics on a UK basketball message board in a thread about an ESPN reporter who covers the NFL. Ironically, all this from guys who were cheering ESPN reporters losing their jobs a few weeks ago.
 

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I thought we decided all these layoffs were because of their liberal views and all the patriots were turning the
I thought we decided all these layoffs were because of their liberal views and all the patriots were turning the channel and destroying the monster?

They're laying off because the network is tanking. I've always maintained that's due to multiple factors. My post was a bit toungue and cheek, but ratings are not the driving force behind the MSM, and I consider ESPN just another news network. They chose that.
 

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Okay, makes sense. I'm not so good at noticing tongue in cheek because there are so many outlandish things posted here that the sensor broke.
 

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ESPN is definitely fulfilling a business strategy that includes a very noticeable left wing bend. The audience they are catering to is demanding more entertainment rather than hardcore factoids. Whether anyone here likes it or not, the vast majority of their viewership supports political discussion with a left bend. It's just how it is, times change. The US is no longer the "center right" country I had known growing up, it's becoming more and more left with each new social crusade that comes through the pipe. We aren't really a nation with set morals a values - as shown by the pendulum effect of our political direction every election cycle. We've been swinging left for a while, everything else that could say otherwise is just semantics.
that audience does not seem to be paying the bills...
 
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I believe it to be totally unfair and downright UNAMERICAN :americanflag: that every single channel, newspaper, youtube personality and twitter follow doesn't think the same way I do.
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So they are obnoxious shoving their beliefs down our throats so we will be obnoxious and shove our beliefs on the posters here.Okay makes sense.

That's fair but My post was directed at the reality behind their survival relative to ratings. It's not possible to discuss it without speaking toward their political position that provides safety and explains how msm news outlets (such as espn) escape to live another day with such poor approval and viewership.
 

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I'm one of the cord cutters. ESPN gets nothing from me.

Cord cutter here too, and I'm watching more ESPN networks and sports than ever before. I like to think of it as my double middle finger to Charter.
 

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I am obviously biased in this case, but I really liked Jay Crawford. went to high school with his younger brother and sister and the whole family are just outstanding people. Jay's reporting always struck home with me because he spoke to my Ohio roots as an Indians fan. Hated to see him go, but when you see who was cut and who was kept it is pretty clear the direction they are headed.
 

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How did I guess that politics would be dragged into this?

Because some people don't understand there's more ways than one to view the world, therefore they inject their political opinions into every thing.

These people are called wing nuts. They're not much fun to be around. They can be found marching/looting in cities or boycotting something or standing in front of the local Target yelling Bible verses about transgender pissing. These people should be considered mentally unstable and should be immediately sterilized.
 

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Because some people don't understand there's more ways than one to view the world, therefore they inject their political opinions into every thing.

These people are called wing nuts. They're not much fun to be around. They can be found marching/looting in cities or boycotting something or standing in front of the local Target yelling Bible verses about transgender pissing. These people should be considered mentally unstable and should be immediately sterilized.

It's ok to lean left.....it's ok to lean right....but it would be great if those on the far left AND the far right could find another planet to live on.
 

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It's ok to lean left.....it's ok to lean right....but it would be great if those on the far left AND the far right could find another planet to live on.

Agree.

Everyone leans one way or the other, but in the history of political arguing, how many minds have been changed? (Very few)

Which is why when the _________-wingers start telling me their way is the only one, I usually scoff and walk away.
 

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Obviously, I'm not the demographic that ESPN is trying to please.

I miss the days when ESPN reported the news and MTV and VH1 played music videos and there was no such thing as "reality TV."

It's a young man's world and I'm just trying to find a TV station that wants to please me and other 50-year olds. Apparently, there are absolutely NO advertisers that want to speak to me.

We've still got this show on PBS Saturday evenings.

 

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you ever seen them live?

Sort of.

I saw them in Louisville at last year's Louder than Life, but it's only half of the orginal band with Jeff Hanneman being dead and Dave Lombardo being gone. (Holt and Bostaph are top notch replacements, but not originals).

Lombardo is my favorite drummer of all time, and I kick myself daily for missing seeing Slayer when he was behind the kit.
 

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Sort of.

I saw them in Louisville at last year's Louder than Life, but it's only half of the orginal band with Jeff Hanneman being dead and Dave Lombardo being gone. (Holt and Bostaph are top notch replacements, but not originals).

Lombardo is my favorite drummer of all time, and I kick myself daily for missing seeing Slayer when he was behind the kit.

They came to Louisville a few years ago along with Anthrax and Megadeth. I bet there wasn't 500 people in Broadbent Arena. Couldn't believe it. Agree about Lombardo. I'm not even a big metal head anymore, but he's an amazing drummer. Of the best ever - in any genre.
 

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Again, FS1 really has the opportunity to start taking over

Take over what? Sports talk shows? I can probably count on my fingers the number of sporting events that I watched on FS1 in the last year. Like it or not, ESPN is still far and away the king of the hill in televising sporting events that matter.
 

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Take over what? Sports talk shows? I can probably count on my fingers the number of sporting events that I watched on FS1 in the last year. Like it or not, ESPN is still far and away the king of the hill in televising sporting events that matter.

Yup. Skip Bayless and Colin cowherd aren't gona take anything from espn. Fs1 is the same as espn.
 

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Again, FS1 really has the opportunity to start taking over

They won't.

FS1 is subtly branding itself as a "conservative" sports alternative that doesn't bow to twittter trolls and SJWs. But their on-air "talent" includes the likes of Cowturd, Skip Clueless and Jason Whitlock aka ESPN castoffs that are universally hated. They need more game options than BigEast basketball, Pac 12 football/basketball, some MLB and UFC. I tried to watch their nightly highlights show when the network first premiered and found it to be twice as bad as the declining SC. It was just minor-league SportsCenter that managed to be less funny and entertaining, which is damn hard to do.

Personally, I hate political talk (drooling morons in a red or blue echo chamber spouting the day's DNC or RNC talking points to the hordes of gullible minions) and sports talk (clueless "experts" who oftentimes didn't play sports spouting hot take after hot take just to draw a reaction from anyone who bothers to listen to them). I preferred the days of when ESPN filled time with odd sports, pro wrestling, "classic" highlight videos, etc., over the 6 straight hours of talking about the same ole ish.

I found this chart from BusinessInsider to be interesting. Basically the NFL, MLB and college basketball skew slightly right of center, while the NBA skews further left of center than any other major sports. Conservatives like stuff with bulls and motors ... and women's golf, liberals like weird sports, European sports but also ... UFC and monster trucks. Lol

 

JDHoss

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Yep....FS1 has next to nothing in terms of actual sports programming, which is why ESPN will continue to rule the roost for the foreseeable future.