ESPN ranks the SEC basketball coaching jobs...

[Maroon Eagle]

We're number #11, which is pretty close to being right-- we're in the 9-10-11 range.

Other impressions: Georgia's overrated by a lot at #7-- I'd put them around the 9-10-11 range. Arkansas is slightly underrated at #5.

Numbers 13 & 14 are on the money.

 

[maroonmania]

I agree that Georgia is WAY overrated due to lack of fan support but other than that its not a bad ordering. Really don't know enough about A&M basketball to say where they belong but I know Missouri is normally pretty big on basketball. I would definitely put Georgia behind LSU, Bama and MSU. I also disagree about our salary limitations. We could pay a basketball coach SIGNIFICANTLY more than what we are paying if we knew we had a really good one that demanded that kind of money to keep them.

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Or ripping off Bruce Pearl it seems.

http://sixpackspeak.yuku.com/reply/589544/Bruce-Pearl-ranks--attractiveness--SEC-coaching-jobs-discuss#reply-589544

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

it sucks just as bad, without the indoor rain. And at least we have plans for a new one.

 

[engie]

Stansbury had a top 25ish salary, at least it was until the previous 2 years(not positive, since the price is ALWAYS going up). Ray gives us a couple good seasons and takes us to a Sweet 16, I have VERY little doubt we pay him top 15-20 salary. We've got boosters that will pony the money to succeed in basketball, that much is for sure.

You've also got to take into account that the new network revenue will start rolling in after this season. This will help us to a greater extent than it does elsewhere percentagewise.

No great argument about the list... It is where we are as a program right now. We have potential to move up to 6th-7th with consistently good seasons and postseason advancement...

 

[BulldogBlitz]

.... the expectation is too great. i don't think it is reasonable to be in the final 4 every year, despite the resources available.

maybe calipari can keep his string going, but i think the longer he keeps the success at a high level, the more scrutiny he will deserve.

...and i'm partial to us and think we should be higher. vegas isn't a horrible place with only 1 building with indoor plumbing... there's at least 2. they just didn't hire me as basketball coach.

 

[was21]

nm

 

[Salty Dog]

KY is the clear-cut #1 with Florida a distant second. If the jean cut-offs were to lose Eddie Munster, I'd bump them down a couple notches. Situation where the coach makes the program, rather than vice versa.

Tenn and GA are several notches too high. Don't know what they're thinking there. I'd bump GA down to where we are or lower, and Tenn to around LSUx.

Ark could push Missu for the #3. A trip to Bud Walton convinced me. Doesn't make sense that they can't get the right coach in there.

My biased opinion thinks we should be higher but really, it's a fair seed.

 

[TUSK.sixpack]

or are there more variables than "winning"?

 

[patdog]

Nobody cares about what you did back in the 80s.

 

[TUSK.sixpack]

nm

 

[patdog]

I caught a lot of hell back in 2005 when I told people that MSU baseball wasn't a special program any more and that Mississippi had passed us by. Actually, I take that back. Bama basketball isn't exactly like MSU baseball. MSU baseball has actually done a lot more in the last 20 years than Bama basketball has (2 CWS and a super regional vs. 1 Sweet Sixteen).</p>

 

[TUSK.sixpack]

but that's neither here nor there.... I'm gonna celebrate the SEC's 1st WCWS Championship ever.... <div>
</div><div>who would you rate as the #2 all-time SEC baseball and Bball programs? I'll catch your response in the am.</div><div>
</div><div>peace.</div><div>
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[engie]

Let's use 1990 since it's a nice round number, so 23 years...

MSU baseball - 17 regionals, 4 Super Regionals(only been in place 14 years), 4 CWS, 4 conference tournament championships. Interpolating for the old tournament format(did not have SR's), we've got the equivalent of 7-10 sweet 16s in 23 years.

Alabama basketball - 11 tourneys, 3 sweet 16s, 1 elite 8, 2 conference tourney championships, 1 regular season championship.

MSU baseball has fallen on hard times of late, but it hasn't fallen to the level of Bama basketball... Granted baseball is a sport where we enjoy more built-in advantages(climate, recruiting, etc) compared to basketball, which is nationwide...

 

[patdog]

And there's no interpolating back super regional appearances to the old tournament format. A regional final in the old format is equal to a super regional in the new format. In the last 20 years, MSU has 3 CWS plus 3 additional super regionals (no regional finals in the old format other than the 2 CWS years). Still a lot more than Bama has done in that time frame.

 

[DowntownDawg]

1) Kentucky - The most pressure, but the most tradition and resources.
2) Florida - Thanks to an overflowing athletic budget, the recruiting base, and what Donovan has been able to do.
3) Arkansas - Had deep runs in the 90's, including a national championship, one of the best facilities and home court advantages, and no in-state competition. Why they haven't had more success is a mystery, and it starts with bad coaching hires after Nolan.
4) Missouri - Really by default, currently a strong program with little in-state competition.
5) Tennessee - Bruce Pearl reignited the program. While fans are more concerned with football, there is enough money to go around to have good facilities and pay good salaries.
6) Mississippi State - We now have one of the SEC's top practice facilities, our gym is middle of the pack, and we have little to no in-state competition. We hold almost all the Mississippi basketball tradition. We are in the middle of a fertile recruiting state. We had trouble attracting a top coach due to the circus administration that was previously here, but soon that will fade away.
7) LSU - Plenty of talent around, no in-state competition, but second to football.
8) Vanderbilt - Right in between UT and Memphis in not the most talent rich state. Vandy's success is a testament to Kevin Stallings and the job he has done.
9) A&M - The only SEC game in town will help them. Plenty of money to go around and a wide recruiting base. Big time second fiddle to football.
10) Alabama - Lacks a fanbase that cares about the program, plays in a dump, but has some level of tradition.
11) Georgia - Very little tradition, fans don't care, the better program is their rival.
12) South Carolina - See Georgia.
13) Auburn - See South Carolina.
14) Ole Miss - They play in a dump, the fans don't care, they have been owned by their rival for decade, and they have very little tradition.

 

[missouridawg]

there's a very, very good argument that it's the #1 college coaching job in the country. Duke, UNC, and Michigan State are in that conversation, but UK is every bit as attractive as all of those.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

My only quibble is that I'd put LSU ahead of us for the following reasons:
1. Only SEC team in their state.
2. More SEC regular season championships.
3. More NCAA tournament appearances.
4. More Final Four appearances (with one within the past ten years)